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[har13]

Ibaka is free agent?????????

[Baddy Chuck]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

Letting Brogdon go basically to forego the repeater tax was always **** stupid no matter what money it theoretically saved the owners. And like it was a lot of money.

[coolhandluke121]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

That's an incredible tax burden though. We all want them to pay the tax, but that much tax is an awful lot to ask. Also I'm pretty sure they technically had to relinquish Brogdon's cap hold because they could only afford to keep his qualifying offer on the books and make the other moves they made. They would have needed to keep his cap hold to have the right to match. Khris's cap hold, Brook, and Hill all had to fit under the salary cap to make the moves they made, and the difference between Brogdon's qualifying offer and Brogdon's cap hold didn't work. He wanted out, he was an injury risk, the Bucks didn't have enough of a role for him, the money didn't work, and they got a first-round pick. It was never going to happen any other way.

[Rstuedes24]

What are the Pelicans doing with adams?

Pairing Aquaman with the Aquadagger

[coolhandluke121]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

Letting Brogdon go basically to forego the repeater tax was always **** stupid no matter what money it theoretically saved the owners. And like it was a lot of money.

The repeater tax also costs a lot of exception salary slots. You need those to address needs as they arise.

The dilemma was weighing Brogdon's injury risk vs. Bledsoe's fit at PG. Bledsoe was 11th in the entire NBA in RPM while Brogdon was hurt for nearly half the season, as usual. Bledsoe also accepted a below market deal at the time to stay. It might not look like a good deal now, but look at the free agent contracts that were signed in 2019 to see why it was considered a gift at the time. Bledsoe probably could have gotten close to $25m per year on the open market.

It sucks that he played terrible in the playoffs and proved to be the wrong choice, but their process was good and they just guessed wrong.

[machu46]

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[Baddy Chuck]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

Letting Brogdon go basically to forego the repeater tax was always **** stupid no matter what money it theoretically saved the owners. And like it was a lot of money.

The repeater tax also costs a lot of exception salary slots. You need those to address needs as they arise.

The dilemma was weighing Brogdon's injury risk vs. Bledsoe's fit at PG. Bledsoe was 11th in the entire NBA in RPM while Brogdon was hurt for nearly half the season, as usual. Bledsoe also accepted a below market deal at the time to stay. It might not look like a good deal now, but look at the free agent contracts that were signed in 2019 to see why it was considered a gift at the time. Bledsoe probably could have gotten close to $25m per year on the open market.

It sucks that he played terrible in the playoffs and proved to be the wrong choice, but their process was good and they just guessed wrong.

I don't even have Brogdon as a point guard at all, it was still a bad decision as it was at the time IMO. It could be/was mitigated pretty well but a stupid no matter what none the less.

[tydett]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

Theoretically, yes, if Indiana didn't really want Brogdon and Brogdom were willing to wait to re-sign.

Unfortunately, those were not true, so Indiana could've forced the Bucks hand by signing him to an offer sheet right away, which would've put the Bucks in the position of needing to either match or let him go for nothing. Matching him would've meant the Bucks could've probably only had the taxpayer MLE to get Bropez (a significant cut from his current salary) or Hill (not both) without hardscaping themselves at the apron.

Of course, all of this gets lost because everybody just assumes "hurr durr Bucks brought back everyone else just go into luxury tax!!" but they forget the Bucks lost bird rights on Hill when they waived him to avoid paying him $17 million and didn't have them on Brook after signing him to the BAE. That, and it's much easier to parrot what other (Raptor, Heat, etc.) idiots say on a message board

[SirChurros]

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At this rate if Giannis signs the supermax, the deal will fall through because Horst forgets to file the paperwork.

[emunney]

Why do I feel like we're about to do something totally out of left field like trade for Gobert or something?

[Baddy Chuck]

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If that is true this is pretty inexcusable.

[mcfromage]

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[neiLz]

**** better not be true. Wtf.

[German Athens]

I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.

That's an incredible tax burden though. We all want them to pay the tax, but that much tax is an awful lot to ask. Also I'm pretty sure they technically had to relinquish Brogdon's cap hold because they could only afford to keep his qualifying offer on the books and make the other moves they made. They would have needed to keep his cap hold to have the right to match. Khris's cap hold, Brook, and Hill all had to fit under the salary cap to make the moves they made, and the difference between Brogdon's qualifying offer and Brogdon's cap hold didn't work. He wanted out, he was an injury risk, the Bucks didn't have enough of a role for him, the money didn't work, and they got a first-round pick. It was never going to happen any other way.

Okay cool, thanks. I guess if I want to point to mismanagement of assets, there’s a laundry list of other errors I could point to.

[greekbuck34]

At this point I'll be happy if we have enough bodies to practice.

[emunney]

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If that is true this is pretty inexcusable.

Oh **** yikes.

[Chad34]

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If that is true this is pretty inexcusable.

can they still change aspects of the contract since it's not official

[Baddy Chuck]

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Meaning he had no suitors.

[RubberSoul]

Can we just get an actual GM? JFC. This is embarrassing.


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[Wonka]

If we used part of the MLE on Pat, people need to be fired.