2020 Preseason Speculation - Lineup battles underway

[Revived]

Are any of the remaining options at PG legitimately better than Carter or Payne?

Yes, most of them, unless you are just talking about Payne in the bubble and ignoring the rest of his 4 years.

Eh maybe Payne put it together after being out of the NBA for a year. He was a lotto pick in Book’s draft, perhaps just a late boomer?

None of the remaining names have established themselves as good players in the NBA either. Guys like Wannamaker are absolute scrubs. I remember reading the Celtics forum after some of their games and they would rip this guy just about every game.

Carter should 40% from 3 for last season and is a hard worker by all accounts so maybe he can keep that going. He just offers no playmaking which is the issue for when CP3 inevitably gets injured. E’Twaan Moore offers no playmaking either though.

[Fo-Real]

Are any of the remaining options at PG legitimately better than Carter or Payne?

Yes, most of them, unless you are just talking about Payne in the bubble and ignoring the rest of his 4 years.

Well, the small sample size measures fit with the team and the coach. So right now, he fit right in and overperformed, so Cameron Payne is my guy with the current goings ons!!

[Blonde]

I hope we are working those phone lines for a sign and trade. Who am I kidding though.

[bwgood77]

Skal? Bembry? Tristan Thompson? Cauley Stien? Courtney Lee? Jakarr Sampson? Is Damian Jones signed?

Why do we need another big? Our best lineup is starting Cam and we have Ayton and Saric and just drafted another big.

Our backups for 1/2/3 are Payne, Carter and Nader.

Because if Ayton goes down we have an unproven rookie and Saric for the 5. That's not great. I think that while I have confidence in Smith, he's unproven, and as such we need some insurance there. Additionally, when I look up and down our roster we are not a very good rebounding team. Oubre was decent on the boards and we have not replaced that at all. So I would like to sign another big.

Saric is a heck of a lot better 5 than relying on Payne though.

Payne played 31, 25 and 40 games the last 3 years before being out of the NBA for over a year. We decided to give him a chance at the end of 19-20 and in 8 bubble games he shot almost 50% from 3. The previous year (last time he played) he shot 29% from 3.

Doing a comparison, I guess for their careers, prior to bubble play, Payne and Okobo are pretty identical in #s and impact. Payne got 4 years though.

I just would like a better backup than those guys. Carter can't run point either.

[bwgood77]

Are any of the remaining options at PG legitimately better than Carter or Payne?

Yes, most of them, unless you are just talking about Payne in the bubble and ignoring the rest of his 4 years.

Well, the small sample size measures fit with the team and the coach. So right now, he fit right in and overperformed, so Cameron Payne is my guy with the current goings ons!!

Yeah, sounds like us. The Tyler Johnson end of season good play approach to the next year.

[Revived]

Read on Twitter

TJ Warren in Brad Stevens system will be an All Star player in Boston.

[bwgood77]

Are any of the remaining options at PG legitimately better than Carter or Payne?

Yes, most of them, unless you are just talking about Payne in the bubble and ignoring the rest of his 4 years.

Eh maybe Payne put it together after being out of the NBA for a year. He was a lotto pick in Book’s draft, perhaps just a late boomer?

None of the remaining names have established themselves as good players in the NBA either. Guys like Wannamaker are absolute scrubs. I remember reading the Celtics forum after some of their games and they would rip this guy just about every game.

Carter should 40% from 3 for last season and is a hard worker by all accounts so maybe he can keep that going. He just offers no playmaking which is the issue for when CP3 inevitably gets injured. E’Twaan Moore offers no playmaking either though.

Maybe Payne did. I guess we will find out. Hopefully you are right.

E'Twaun Moore is not a guy I'm thinking of for backup PG but for backup 2/3 3&D guy. He is a very solid 3 pt shooter who can defend. He would be a nice Booker backup. I like Carter but don't think he is better than a 3rd string combo guard. Not big enough and can't run PG.

[Sunsdeuce]

I think i have come to the conclusion that Sarver and friends think the Chris Paul trade was the be all, end all to the team improvement. And how dare fans expect the team to further try and improve the roster.

This line of thinking takes out all the factors of, not every fan was on board with trading for an aging overpriced PG while giving up a very fan favorite player, a first round pick, and a decent PG.

Fans that were on board with acquiring Paul also understood that CHris Paul was just a piece to the puzzle, not the final piece to the puzzle.

Fully prepared for the suns to sign a bottom dollar free agent that no one has heard of and than James Jones having a conference where he speaks about Chris Paul 90% of the time while completely ignoring the wholes on the roster. James Jones is what he is, a low IQ GM on a cheap contract producing cheap results.

[bwgood77]

Read on Twitter

TJ Warren in Brad Stevens system will be an All Star player in Boston.

He was All NBA in the bubble along with Booker, Doncic, Lillard and Harden. Would they start TJ though? Can Brown start at 2? Would Smart be purely a 6th man? Or would they run some lineups with Tatum at C?

[bwgood77]

I think i have come to the conclusion that Sarver and friends think the Chris Paul trade was the be all, end all to the team improvement. And how dare fans expect the team to further try and improve the roster.

This line of thinking takes out all the factors of, not every fan was on board with trading for an aging overpriced PG while giving up a very fan favorite player, a first round pick, and a decent PG.

Fans that were on board with acquiring Paul also understood that CHris Paul was just a piece to the puzzle, not the final piece to the puzzle.

Fully prepared for the suns to sign a bottom dollar free agent that no one has heard of and than James Jones having a conference where he speaks about Chris Paul 90% of the time while completely ignoring the wholes on the roster. James Jones is what he is, a low IQ GM on a cheap contract producing cheap results.

He will also say "We went out and signed Dario Saric and Jevon Carter as free agents this offseason".

[Revived]

Yes, most of them, unless you are just talking about Payne in the bubble and ignoring the rest of his 4 years.

Eh maybe Payne put it together after being out of the NBA for a year. He was a lotto pick in Book’s draft, perhaps just a late boomer?

None of the remaining names have established themselves as good players in the NBA either. Guys like Wannamaker are absolute scrubs. I remember reading the Celtics forum after some of their games and they would rip this guy just about every game.

Carter should 40% from 3 for last season and is a hard worker by all accounts so maybe he can keep that going. He just offers no playmaking which is the issue for when CP3 inevitably gets injured. E’Twaan Moore offers no playmaking either though.

Maybe Payne did. I guess we will find out. Hopefully you are right.

E'Twaun Moore is not a guy I'm thinking of for backup PG but for backup 2/3 3&D guy. He is a very solid 3 pt shooter who can defend. He would be a nice Booker backup. I like Carter but don't think he is better than a 3rd string combo guard. Not big enough and can't run PG.

It’s a shame the Suns didn’t have a better plan for the backup PG position after acquiring CP3. They must have forgot all about how injury prone he is due to one fluke healthy season last year.

[darealjuice]

God the bitching and moaning here is unbearable sometimes lol

[matt131]

I think i have come to the conclusion that Sarver and friends think the Chris Paul trade was the be all, end all to the team improvement. And how dare fans expect the team to further try and improve the roster.

This line of thinking takes out all the factors of, not every fan was on board with trading for an aging overpriced PG while giving up a very fan favorite player, a first round pick, and a decent PG.

Fans that were on board with acquiring Paul also understood that CHris Paul was just a piece to the puzzle, not the final piece to the puzzle.

Fully prepared for the suns to sign a bottom dollar free agent that no one has heard of and than James Jones having a conference where he speaks about Chris Paul 90% of the time while completely ignoring the wholes on the roster. James Jones is what he is, a low IQ GM on a cheap contract producing cheap results.

He will also say "We went out and signed Dario Saric and Jevon Carter as free agents this offseason".

Lol I literally just wrote out exactly what he'll say

[Revived]

Read on Twitter

TJ Warren in Brad Stevens system will be an All Star player in Boston.

He was All NBA in the bubble along with Booker, Doncic, Lillard and Harden. Would they start TJ though? Can Brown start at 2? Would Smart be purely a 6th man? Or would they run some lineups with Tatum at C?

They started Brown at the 2, Hayward at the 3 and Tatum at 4 iirc. If they acquired Warren, he would just replace Hayward at the 3.

[matt131]

God the bitching and moaning here is unbearable sometimes lol

It's a requirement for being a suns fan. Actually, it's a requirement of being a fan of a Robert Sarver owned team

[darealjuice]

God the bitching and moaning here is unbearable sometimes lol

It's a requirement for being a suns fan. Actually, it's a requirement of being a fan of a Robert Sarver owned team

Sure seems like it. We didn't sign DJ Augustin guys, season's over pack it up.

[darealjuice]

Why would Indiana trade Warren and Turner, two players who are as good as or potentially better than current Gordon Hayward, for the right to pay Hayward his last big contract?

[matt131]

Why would Indiana trade Warren and Turner, two players who are arguably better than current Gordon Hayward, for the right to pay Hayward his last big contract?

Indiana loves white dudes

[matt131]

God the bitching and moaning here is unbearable sometimes lol

It's a requirement for being a suns fan. Actually, it's a requirement of being a fan of a Robert Sarver owned team

Sure seems like it. We didn't sign DJ Augustin guys, season's over pack it up.

I think more so it's now turning into, "what the heck is Jones' plan?". Not one specific player but he says we are trying to be title contenders. We have CP3 for two years and so far we have about 5 NBA players on the roster. Something doesn't make sense here

[Blonde]

If I was Indiana I would rather have Turner than Hayward straight up. It’s a close call but given age and Turner’s relatively good contract I wouldn’t move him for Hayward.