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Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go

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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#341 » by jfs1000d » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:24 pm

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Terrible.. Huge L for Ainge. Just let the guy go and get something back. Move on. This is handcuffing us from signing other FA's.

He doesnt want turner guys.


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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#342 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:24 pm

leper-con wrote:According to this forum , Dannys getting blamed for dogs pooping in peoples yards all over the country.

It's like people are internalizing the lack of trade onto Danny.

There is another team involved and a player , all of which have a say.

not to mention the deal could already be done and we are trying to do some others things salary wise that will affect the team, and need to be done in a certain order. I take common sense for granted sometimes, reading these threads make me realize, common sense isn't so common.


You can’t really blame fans for being concerned when they see names getting signed or traded left and right and Boston hasn’t made one move. It would be one thing if Ainge had attempted to address the holes at the last deadline but it’s been a while since he has made even a veteran pickup deal(Morris I believe). The bench currently doesn’t have one single player not on a rookie deal.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#343 » by SLCceltic » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

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THIS !!
THIS IS WHY HE IS NOT GOING TO NY ... been saying that NY does not want that kind of commitment with GH
THANKS for posting that ... has been NYs sentiment all along
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#344 » by rob4748 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:How is everyone doing in this nuthouse today



Terrible, absolutely terrible.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#345 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

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Terrible.. Huge L for Ainge. Just let the guy go and get something back. Move on. This is handcuffing us from signing other FA's.

He doesnt want turner guys.


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Then why was the only actual leak about players involved say that the Celtics do want Turner?
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#346 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

Not sure what can be gleaned from them, but here's a link to the Team USA stats from 2019.

https://www.usab.com/mens/national-team/stats.aspx
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#347 » by Scarletfire81 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Ainge should lose a deal on purpose. They will think he’s lost it. That would open up more deals.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#348 » by BigTrade92 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

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return2glory wrote:Not my first choice, but if McDermott is part of the deal, it’s not bad.

He is coming off a career year. He played about 20 minutes a game and averaged 10 points. He also shot 49% from the field and nearly 44% on 3s on 4 attempts her game.

I don’t know if we have room for him too play that much here, but he is another shooter. And a pretty good one.

40% career 3 point shooter on his final year of contract. Why are people so opposed to his addition?

Agreed.

McDermott would be a very nice bench addition, not to mention the main piece is getting a solid 24 year old Center who could be the missing link we’ve been needing in the frontcourt.

I think the trade as presently offered is extremely fair for both sides.

I don’t blame Ainge for trying to squeeze every last drop out of Indy, but if Danny screws this up and Haywards bolts to say the Knicks for nothing, there’s going to be a gigantic mutiny from the fanbase...
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#349 » by DarkAzcura » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

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return2glory wrote:Not my first choice, but if McDermott is part of the deal, it’s not bad.

He is coming off a career year. He played about 20 minutes a game and averaged 10 points. He also shot 49% from the field and nearly 44% on 3s on 4 attempts her game.

I don’t know if we have room for him too play that much here, but he is another shooter. And a pretty good one.

40% career 3 point shooter on his final year of contract. Why are people so opposed to his addition?


I’m confused by this as well. The only viable reason I can think of is the luxury tax. If we can avoid it for one more year, it would be good, but from what I have seen out there it seems like we can stay under the tax even with McDermott. Anything we can do to push off the repeater tax is probably beneficial as when Tatum’s extension kicks in, we are probably going to be in the luxury tax pretty consistently.

I’ve seen us struggling with shooting for so long, though, that it is weird that people are so against adding a 40-43% dead eye shooter. He won’t play a lot, but he is an expiring who can really help open things up for Brown, Tatum, and Kemba which is something the rest of our team is laughable at, lol.
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Post#350 » by FakeScreenName123 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm

Danny is so mad he can’t just trade Gordon for John Collins
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#351 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm

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Terrible.. Huge L for Ainge. Just let the guy go and get something back. Move on. This is handcuffing us from signing other FA's.

He doesnt want turner guys.


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I just don’t understand that, what better option is out there? Even if he’s not fond of the player it’s moveable salary and a significant upgrade to what you have. At least brining him in allows you to make another deal down the line. If Hayward signs elsewhere that money is gone and you only have a mid level and underwhelming prospects to add to the team.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#352 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm

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I think out of the 3, Boston has the most leverage. Hayward loses leverage when each team with capspace left spends money. He's not leaving Boston to play for the Hornets or Knicks.

And Indiana loses leverage each day knowing that Oladipo is damaged goods, and that Hayward is their best shot at landing a good wing player if/when Oladipo leaves. Even when the Pacers are flush with capspace, the only FA that would willingly go there will be locked into a deal with the Celtics.

Give us a pick, a pick swap, or Goga if you really want us to take McDermott. Danny shouldn't even answer the calls unless the Pacers give in on one of those demands.

In the meantime, Danny should be working the phones looking for a Center and a veteran PG.


Your last bit is what gives Indy leverage. Danny can't afford to wait as long as Indy can, because they're not winning much next season anyway, and hence have less need of vet additions.

Also, once the best FAs are taken, foisting McDermott off on somebody might become easier.


I disagree. The Pacers have never tanked. Ever. What's the highest pick they've ever received in the draft? I'm not sure they've ever had one in the top 5. They know that if they throw away the season, fans won't come to games. Hayward is a guy who will keep them competitive, and at the very least, keep fanbase interest high since they love their local guys.


Missing out on an MLE signing isn't "tanking". They might be in a salary position post-trade in which they aren't signing FAs anyway.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#354 » by CelticsPride18 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#355 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

How did Charlotte get that much space? Still hoping for a S&T.
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Post#356 » by rob4748 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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Post#357 » by meatball sub » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

What a **** disaster. Thanks Ainge
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#358 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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flintsky21 wrote:
return2glory wrote:Not my first choice, but if McDermott is part of the deal, it’s not bad.

He is coming off a career year. He played about 20 minutes a game and averaged 10 points. He also shot 49% from the field and nearly 44% on 3s on 4 attempts her game.

I don’t know if we have room for him too play that much here, but he is another shooter. And a pretty good one.

40% career 3 point shooter on his final year of contract. Why are people so opposed to his addition?


I’m confused by this as well. The only viable reason I can think of is the luxury tax. If we can avoid it for one more year, it would be good, but from what I have seen out there it seems like we can stay under the tax even with McDermott. Anything we can do to push off the repeater tax is probably beneficial as when Tatum’s extension kicks in, we are probably going to be in the luxury tax pretty consistently.

I’ve seen us struggling with shooting for so long, though, that it is weird that people are so against adding a 40-43% dead eye shooter. He won’t play a lot, but he is an expiring who can really help open things up for Brown, Tatum, and Kemba which is something the rest of our team is laughable at, lol.


Wic said he was well prepared to go into the luxury if it meant competing for a title. I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker. At this point they just need talent, you can’t trust the current bench to keep you in games.
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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#359 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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Re: Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go 

Post#360 » by Afam » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

I am not an Ainge supporter, maybe neutral at best. That aside I can assure you that he is not going to blink. Either the pacers meet his asking price, or they can go away.

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