Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit

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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#81 » by rpa » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Does Kuzma have actual value in the league? Why would anyone want him?


The guy is 25 years old on a team friendly contract and has been averaging 19.2 points per 36 minutes over his career. It's hard for him to shine playing behind LeBron and AD, but he could easily be an 18-20 ppg starter on another team, and possibly better. Also improved greatly on defense this last season.

I bet almost every team in the NBA would like to have him.


I don't know about anybody else, but that seems like a pretty strong indictment on Kuzma. If he can't be successful playing alongside Lebron and Anthony Davis then where the hell can he be successful and help the team win? Currently looks like he's a guy who finds individual success on bad teams and doesn't have the talent or fit to sustain that individual success on good teams.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#82 » by LakersSoul » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:The Hawks have all the potential to be one of the most fun teams to watch in the league as their young talent progresses. Really hope they get him.

Raps have to remain my #1 but the Nuggets, Hawks and Mavs are gonna be my favorite non hometown teams to watch and route for.


Atl just signed Dunn for 2 years. I think the Kings now lose leverage.

I like Bogs but wouldn’t mind keeping KCP if the Kings get too demanding. At least KCP knows his role with the team.

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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#83 » by Sactowndog » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:The Hawks have all the potential to be one of the most fun teams to watch in the league as their young talent progresses. Really hope they get him.

Raps have to remain my #1 but the Nuggets, Hawks and Mavs are gonna be my favorite non hometown teams to watch and route for.


Atl just signed Dunn for 2 years. I think the Kings now lose leverage.

I like Bogs but wouldn’t mind keeping KCP if the Kings get too demanding. At least KCP knows his role with the team.


Based on? The Kings leverage is they can match and keep him.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#84 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:31 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
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NoZoLakers wrote:oh wow i didn't realize 2 players can guard all 5 opposing players, get all the rebs, hit all 3s, or play all 48min :roll:....getting one over cynial Pop dont make you a good gm either


Just accept that Lebron is a great GM and that Pelinka is nothing but a face to do the paper work.

lol whatever helps you sleep night, while your goat gm pays that lil guy 20M+


Little tougher when we cant be gifted top 5 players.

What was KCP making last year? Weren't you guys valuing Kuzma and Ingram about the same? What did you guys trade Zubac for? I can go on and on lol.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#85 » by jinxed » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:39 pm

Hawks with Tre, Bogdan, Danilo, Huerter...wow...so many threes. That would be fun to watch.

Bogdan on the Lakers wouldn't be fair.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#86 » by TheGOATWill » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:39 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Just accept that Lebron is a great GM and that Pelinka is nothing but a face to do the paper work.

lol whatever helps you sleep night, while your goat gm pays that lil guy 20M+


Little tougher when we cant be gifted top 5 players.

What was KCP making last year? Weren't you guys valuing Kuzma and Ingram about the same? What did you guys trade Zubac for? I can go on and on lol.

in fairness, the spurs gifted you a top 5 player fairly recently.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#87 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:46 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:lol whatever helps you sleep night, while your goat gm pays that lil guy 20M+


Little tougher when we cant be gifted top 5 players.

What was KCP making last year? Weren't you guys valuing Kuzma and Ingram about the same? What did you guys trade Zubac for? I can go on and on lol.

in fairness, the spurs gifted you a top 5 player fairly recently.


Thats true. We wouldn't have won without that but we were still a very good regular season team before. What were the Lakers before LeBron and AD?

I wish my team were like the Lakers where the great ones flock. It's a compliment to the city and organization but you cant compliment the GM like he masterpieced the championship.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#88 » by Spice Melange » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:50 pm

already big fan of a Bogdan, if he lands on the Lakers, no way Pelinka isnt executive of the year.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#89 » by NoZoLakers » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:51 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
TheGOATWill wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Little tougher when we cant be gifted top 5 players.

What was KCP making last year? Weren't you guys valuing Kuzma and Ingram about the same? What did you guys trade Zubac for? I can go on and on lol.

in fairness, the spurs gifted you a top 5 player fairly recently.


Thats true. We wouldn't have won without that but we were still a very good regular season team before. What were the Lakers before LeBron and AD?

I wish my team were like the Lakers where the great ones flock. It's a compliment to the city and organization but you cant compliment the GM like he masterpieced the championship.

right cause the complimentary players were so highly praised last off season
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#90 » by BoogieTime » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:52 pm

NekiEcko wrote:
Lost Angel wrote:https://apple.news/AlH-vsN8kSBKU4K5E8mY7Tw

Says Hawks are front runners using cap space and Lakers trying to do some type of KCP + Kuzma for Bogdan swap

Lakers are very aggressive, could easily win the offseason if they pull this off


I dont think that Lakers would trade Kuzma for this but they been surprising me this off-season. Atlanta has 21 mil left after Kris Dunn signing, so it is enough to bring him in.


I don’t think the Kings would only accept kuzma for this
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#91 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:02 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:
TheGOATWill wrote:in fairness, the spurs gifted you a top 5 player fairly recently.


Thats true. We wouldn't have won without that but we were still a very good regular season team before. What were the Lakers before LeBron and AD?

I wish my team were like the Lakers where the great ones flock. It's a compliment to the city and organization but you cant compliment the GM like he masterpieced the championship.

right cause the complimentary players were so highly praised last off season


They were cast offs for sure. But the job of adding role players is so much easier than adding elite talent, especially when the elite talent is Lebron frigging James. Come on man lol
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#92 » by NoZoLakers » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:07 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Thats true. We wouldn't have won without that but we were still a very good regular season team before. What were the Lakers before LeBron and AD?

I wish my team were like the Lakers where the great ones flock. It's a compliment to the city and organization but you cant compliment the GM like he masterpieced the championship.

right cause the complimentary players were so highly praised last off season


They were cast offs for sure. But the job of adding role players is so much easier than adding elite talent, especially when the elite talent is Lebron frigging James. Come on man lol
well lakers certainly werent "gifted" ad
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#93 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:10 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:right cause the complimentary players were so highly praised last off season


They were cast offs for sure. But the job of adding role players is so much easier than adding elite talent, especially when the elite talent is Lebron frigging James. Come on man lol
well lakers certainly werent "gifted" ad


He forced his way there saying he wont re-sign with anyone but them. How is that not forcing a trade to LA? Lol
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#94 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:13 pm

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Optms wrote:lol If he ends on the Lakers, I officially would dare anyone to find me a better GM then Pelinka.


Chill dude... having Lebron and AD fall in your lap does not make you a good GM lol.

And have the most colluding player agency ever. Rich Paul.

Something suspicious wihh the Harrell deal.. He's a Rich Paul client. Probably an off the table arrangement somewhere... It smells bad
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#95 » by NoZoLakers » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:15 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
They were cast offs for sure. But the job of adding role players is so much easier than adding elite talent, especially when the elite talent is Lebron frigging James. Come on man lol
well lakers certainly werent "gifted" ad


He forced his way there saying he wont re-sign with anyone but them. How is that not forcing a trade to LA? Lol

how bout la giving up a guy that became an all star n could be 1 for multiple yrs plus multiple lotto picks n 5yrs worth of picks n swaps? don't matter if he forced it,a still paid what it took
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#96 » by prime1time » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:15 pm

Optms wrote:lol If he ends up on the Lakers, I officially would dare anyone to find me a better GM then Pelinka.

Clearly it's the fact that they have LBJ. Pelinka hasn't done anything impressive IMO. You take LBJ off the Lakers and see how good Pelinka is. Better yet put Pelinka on the Hornets, let's see what he can do.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#97 » by LouisLitt » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:18 pm

Optms wrote:lol If he ends up on the Lakers, I officially would dare anyone to find me a better GM then Pelinka.


A good GM doesn't win rings.

A good GM obtains a "wArChEsT oF pIcKs".
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#98 » by markjay » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:38 pm

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markjay wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Does Kuzma have actual value in the league? Why would anyone want him?


The guy is 25 years old on a team friendly contract and has been averaging 19.2 points per 36 minutes over his career. It's hard for him to shine playing behind LeBron and AD, but he could easily be an 18-20 ppg starter on another team, and possibly better. Also improved greatly on defense this last season.

I bet almost every team in the NBA would like to have him.


I don't know about anybody else, but that seems like a pretty strong indictment on Kuzma. If he can't be successful playing alongside Lebron and Anthony Davis then where the hell can he be successful and help the team win? Currently looks like he's a guy who finds individual success on bad teams and doesn't have the talent or fit to sustain that individual success on good teams.


It's not a matter of playing alongside those two. He plays the same positions as them (3/4). Makes it hard for him to get quality minutes and quality touches.
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#99 » by th87 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:21 pm

thamadkant wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Optms wrote:lol If he ends on the Lakers, I officially would dare anyone to find me a better GM then Pelinka.


Chill dude... having Lebron and AD fall in your lap does not make you a good GM lol.

And have the most colluding player agency ever. Rich Paul.

Something suspicious wihh the Harrell deal.. He's a Rich Paul client. Probably an off the table arrangement somewhere... It smells bad


So the Lakers tamper with impunity.

But the Bucks work out a BB trade early with all parties in agreement. NBA steps in to squash it.

BB ends up on the Lakers despite all their tampering (and probably in this case too).

So why not just contract all small market teams if the NBA doesn't want superstars on them and don't want them to add talent?
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Re: Hawks in lead to land Bogdan; Lakers in pursuit 

Post#100 » by TheGOATWill » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:31 pm

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markjay wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Does Kuzma have actual value in the league? Why would anyone want him?


The guy is 25 years old on a team friendly contract and has been averaging 19.2 points per 36 minutes over his career. It's hard for him to shine playing behind LeBron and AD, but he could easily be an 18-20 ppg starter on another team, and possibly better. Also improved greatly on defense this last season.

I bet almost every team in the NBA would like to have him.


I don't know about anybody else, but that seems like a pretty strong indictment on Kuzma. If he can't be successful playing alongside Lebron and Anthony Davis then where the hell can he be successful and help the team win? Currently looks like he's a guy who finds individual success on bad teams and doesn't have the talent or fit to sustain that individual success on good teams.

A place where the two best at his position aren’t also his teammates. Like Sacramento.

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