Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go

SMTBSI · Post #941 » by **SMTBSI** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:30 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:So, we're kinda down to Baynes/Ibaka/Millsap.

Haven't really been paying attention. Ibaka's got to command more than the MLE, right?

greenpierce · Post #942 » by **greenpierce** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:30 pm

Well, I mean actually being more pragmatic than reactionary it’s not really Danny’s fault. Knicks, Indy, Char and I assume Bos, put offer sheets in front of him. Char’s offer is crazy, and him and his family decide they like mild weather, occasional hurricanes and Lyndsay Graham.

Post #943 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:There's nothing you can say to 4y/$120m. Same as when Philly gave Horford that deal last year. Can't get into death spirals with bad franchises just to save face.

Get the TPE and move on. Payoff probably won't come until the trade deadline or next offseason.

How much would it cost Celtics to get a TPE out of this?

SMTBSI · Post #944 » by **SMTBSI** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

R9ndo wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:
Ernest wrote:We did it guys!!! This was our fastest complete melt down yet.

Some of these folks are incensed that they are going to have to watch another season of playoff basketball.

And not winning a championship

I mean, try not to be so happy about it.

Franchise ain't gonna fold. Team's gonna play next season. Youth's gonna grow, and we move on to the next opportunities.

La Flame · Post #945 » by **La Flame** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Ibaka, Rondo and Giles?

Saint Lazarus · Post #946 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Bruh lol

CavemanDoctor · Post #947 » by **CavemanDoctor** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

SMTBSI wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:So, we're kinda down to Baynes/Ibaka/Millsap.

Haven't really been paying attention. Ibaka's got to command more than the MLE, right?

Unless New York wants him, almost no way Ibaka will get more than the MLE.

Homerclease · Post #948 » by **Homerclease** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Charlotte has to eat 9 million in dead cap a year over the next 3 years in order to do this. Just wow

That’s why I still think it could a S&T. Better for everyone

Already been announced they are waiving and using the stretch provision on Batum. Just nutty

FlatearthZorro · Post #949 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

SMTBSI wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:So, we're kinda down to Baynes/Ibaka/Millsap.

Haven't really been paying attention. Ibaka's got to command more than the MLE, right?

I'd tell you what, Ibaka is solid, but nothing special, never has been, he's had 2 all-star-ish season long time ago when he was presumably like 22-23. He has great agent tho, as in my opinion he's been overpaid for ages, I dunno if the current market will allow him to get more than the full MLE, cause there aren't that many teams with CAP space sans the Knicks.

SparringPartner · Post #950 » by **SparringPartner** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

CavemanDoctor wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Got to be Zeller, right?

Post #951 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

I don’t get the it was Hayward’s choice narrative so this was happening anyway.

His choice was Indy.

Ainge balked.

When he knew Indy was taking too long he chose his second option.

rob4748 · Post #952 » by **rob4748** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

If Charlotte had offered this yesterday we would have had the details. DANNY WAITED TOO LONG.

themoneyteam2 · Post #953 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Laughable.

Captain_Caveman · Post #954 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

ParticleMan wrote:yeah the fact that people are somehow not getting that hayward had the final say in where he goes as a UFA is really mind boggling.

It's the new CBA. These guys have short earnings windows and are highly incentivized to play out their deals or opt-out at the first opportunity. I am not against short-term moves like trading for expiring star players in this context. Worked for Raptors, and worked for Lakers even if AD didn't stay.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #955 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:32 pm

This looks just as bad on Stevens as it looks on Ainge. This is literally your 'bff' and dude left you holding your balls to go to **** Charlotte to play with LaMelo and Terry Rozier lmao.

Everytime somebody leaves Boston I just think 'I hope he gets traded to Charlotte'.. This won't even be required this time. Hahaha

Celts17Pride · Post #956 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Charlotte has to eat 9 million in dead cap a year over the next 3 years in order to do this. Just wow

That’s why I still think it could a S&T. Better for everyone

Already been announced they are waiving and using the stretch provision on Batum. Just nutty

Not announced, it’s there intent. If really true than Charlotte has no clue

Patsfan1081 · Post #957 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm

ParticleMan wrote:yeah the fact that people are somehow not getting that hayward had the final say in where he goes as a UFA is really mind boggling.

Again, I really don’t think that’s what people are angry about. Anyway you cut it Ainge misplayed his hand. Wether it was agreeing to extend the talks, not having a backup plan if he walks, or just misplaying Hayward’s mindset. Either way this team just got worse with little hope to replace his production.

themoneyteam2 · Post #958 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:I don’t get the it was Hayward’s choice narrative so this was happening anyway.

His choice was Indy.

Ainge balked.

When he knew Indy was taking too long he chose his second option.

yeah it was his first option until he got the 4 years fully guaranteed for $20 million more from Charlotte.

CeltsFlow · Post #959 » by **CeltsFlow** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm

Thoughts on bringing back Evan Turner as a backup?

chrisab123 · Post #960 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:33 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:I don’t get the it was Hayward’s choice narrative so this was happening anyway.

His choice was Indy.

Ainge balked.

When he knew Indy was taking too long he chose his second option.

This.

I don't see why this is so hard for people to understand.