The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason

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Post#781 » by Dupp » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:02 pm

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Dupp wrote:They trying to swap kuz and kcp for bogdan, which is beyond stupid.

Surely there is no chance

Hate the idea of this deal



Lakers wing defense outside lebron


Green, kcp, kuz and Bradley. They could be looking at losing all of it...
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Post#782 » by LikeABosh » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:12 pm

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Active roster cap: ~$66.8 million

Incoming charges: Trez for $9.3 million, Wes for $3.6 million, assuming AD for $32.7 million

So that's $112.4 million.

Hard cap is what, $138 million?

Seems like there's plenty of room to pay KCP more than $12 million per and still have 4 or 5 vet mins.
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Post#783 » by dcstanley » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:20 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Rondo just said on IG he's officially leaving, no information yet on his next team. I just hope it's not the Flippers

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Honestly, I'd rather they get him than someone like George Hill tbh.
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Post#784 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:22 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
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Active roster cap: ~$66.8 million

Incoming charges: Trez for $9.3 million, Wes for $3.6 million, assuming AD for $32.7 million

So that's $112.4 million.

Hard cap is what, $138 million?

Seems like there's plenty of room to pay KCP more than $12 million per and still have 4 or 5 vet mins.

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Post#785 » by LikeABosh » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:23 pm

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LikeABosh wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
Read on Twitter


Active roster cap: ~$66.8 million

Incoming charges: Trez for $9.3 million, Wes for $3.6 million, assuming AD for $32.7 million

So that's $112.4 million.

Hard cap is what, $138 million?

Seems like there's plenty of room to pay KCP more than $12 million per and still have 4 or 5 vet mins.

117.1 with Deng


Oh, right. And then apparently Schroder has an extra $2 million that counts against the apron but not the cap. So $119 million. It'll be close
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Post#786 » by xb3at band1tx » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:40 pm

JulesWinnfield wrote:Harrell has a wingspan over 7’4” and is athletic with a strong base. I have a lot of confidence in Vogel and his ability to coach guys up on the defensive end. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Harrell quietly surprises with some defensive improvement especially as the season goes on. Not saying he will be some ultra plus defender by any stretch but let’s see what happens when Vogel gets his hands on him
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This is the same man who turned Hibbert into a defensive all-star that 1 year.

Trez will be fine under this Laker regime.
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Post#787 » by zimpy27 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:42 pm

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Dupp wrote:They trying to swap kuz and kcp for bogdan, which is beyond stupid.

Surely there is no chance

Hate the idea of this deal



Lakers wing defense outside lebron


Green, kcp, kuz and Bradley. They could be looking at losing all of it...


Yep. Not ideal at all.

Batum is intriguing though, would bring defense and playmaking to the bench. Contract year. He could be had for a vet min.
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Post#788 » by xb3at band1tx » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:42 pm

KCP is a fine defender but I thought it was clear to everyone here that the Lakers defense is more about the scheme than about individual guys. I don't mind the bogdan deal although they still need to get a replacement defender for dwight.
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Post#789 » by RCM88x » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:51 pm

xb3at band1tx wrote:KCP is a fine defender but I thought it was clear to everyone here that the Lakers defense is more about the scheme than about individual guys. I don't mind the bogdan deal although they still need to get a replacement defender for dwight.


You still need guys to play in that scheme. Bradley, Green and KCP were pretty key to that during the regular season and playoffs.

Scheme is great but you still need talented guys.
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Post#790 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:51 pm

xb3at band1tx wrote:KCP is a fine defender but I thought it was clear to everyone here that the Lakers defense is more about the scheme than about individual guys. I don't mind the bogdan deal although they still need to get a replacement defender for dwight.

If by the scheme you mean do not play bad defenders, then I agree
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Post#791 » by Dupp » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:55 pm

Least they still got defensive anchor Caruso
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Post#792 » by dcstanley » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:56 pm

What is the Lakers best defensive lineup if the Bogdan deal goes through?

Caruso
Matthews
Bogdan? Vet min?
Lebron
AD

They would have a lot offensive versatility but would be limited defensively. I don't think any opposing defense would be able to stop them though.
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Post#793 » by dcstanley » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:03 pm

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Don't even remember the last time I've seen him play but he shot 38% from three on four attempts in 2019.
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Re: The Lebron Thread | 2021 & Offseason 

Post#794 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:07 pm

Batum is washed isn't he? And he wasn't some amazing defendr in his prime either.
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Post#795 » by Dupp » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:09 pm

I’d risk batum for vet min
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Post#796 » by xb3at band1tx » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:15 pm

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xb3at band1tx wrote:KCP is a fine defender but I thought it was clear to everyone here that the Lakers defense is more about the scheme than about individual guys. I don't mind the bogdan deal although they still need to get a replacement defender for dwight.

If by the scheme you mean do not play bad defenders, then I agree

Rondo and Bradley were net-negative defenders for years by the time they touched down in LA. Hell half the guys the Lakers got last year were castaways that nobody else in the league wanted.

Putting them in Vogel's system with a bought-in LeBron and Davis made them seem so much better than they are.

I just think running it back would've been a mistake, the core was legit getting old. They still need to fill out holes for sure but I can't fault Rob for getting younger and building up to something with a much more balanced attack
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Post#797 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:16 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Batum is washed isn't he? And he wasn't some amazing defendr in his prime either.

Super washed. Dudley much better than him
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Post#798 » by Dupp » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:17 pm

Also, what if kcp gets annoyed they’re trying to trade him and they end up either neither guy?
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Post#799 » by letskissbro » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:20 pm

How viable is Gasol on a min atm?
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Post#800 » by Mos_Heat » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:22 pm

xb3at band1tx wrote:
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xb3at band1tx wrote:KCP is a fine defender but I thought it was clear to everyone here that the Lakers defense is more about the scheme than about individual guys. I don't mind the bogdan deal although they still need to get a replacement defender for dwight.

If by the scheme you mean do not play bad defenders, then I agree

Rondo and Bradley were net-negative defenders for years by the time they touched down in LA. Hell half the guys the Lakers got last year were castaways that nobody else in the league wanted.

Putting them in Vogel's system with a bought-in LeBron and Davis made them seem so much better than they are.

I just think running it back would've been a mistake, the core was legit getting old. They still need to fill out holes for sure but I can't fault Rob for getting younger and building up to something with a much more balanced attack

There is a distinct difference between playoff Rondo and Rondo tho. In the regular season Rondo was terrible in Vogel's system. Bradley wasn't good either despite the fact he mostly played with Lebron and AD
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