Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

[TTP]

I expect Danny Green to be traded by the middle of the season.

1.) expiring, might as well use it as an asset
2.) age has caught up on him, his performance will likely decline as the season progress but he’ll likely start off very good like how he did with the Lakers or how Al started off with us

I also see Tobi getting traded after Doc will pump up his value then Morey will dump him. I can see us having a hard time trading Tobi. I think he is a guy who works on his game and he’d be a better player than before next season.

I doubt it and it wouldn’t make much sense unless you think the Sixers aren’t a playoff team. If he plays well, why would the Sixers trade him away to another playoff team? If he doesn’t play well, why would a playoff team give up positive value for him?

Tobias isn’t getting traded this year either.

[youngcrev]

Would you guys be disappointed if they don't use the MLE?

[Sportfan73]

I expect Danny Green to be traded by the middle of the season.

1.) expiring, might as well use it as an asset
2.) age has caught up on him, his performance will likely decline as the season progress but he’ll likely start off very good like how he did with the Lakers or how Al started off with us

I also see Tobi getting traded after Doc will pump up his value then Morey will dump him. I can see us having a hard time trading Tobi. I think he is a guy who works on his game and he’d be a better player than before next season.

I doubt it and it wouldn’t make much sense unless you think the Sixers aren’t a playoff team. If he plays well, why would the Sixers trade him away to another playoff team? If he doesn’t play well, why would a playoff team give up positive value for him?

Tobias isn’t getting traded this year either.

Completely agreed, at the end of the day this isn’t 2k lol

[Arsenal]

Would you guys be disappointed if they don't use the MLE?

No I expect it. Their payroll is way out of control and using the MLE just makes it even worse. This is the price they have to pay for the previous several years of abject stupidity.

[Sportfan73]

Lin thinking about coming back to the NBA, fit would be great if he played like his old self. Other options at this point trade wise I’d think would be Rose, Lou will, Hill, and then maybe Dinwiddie if we included Matisse

[Arsenal]

I wonder if we're targeting a PG at all? Here's our current situation w/1 roster spot projected to be open:

1: Simmons
2a: Milton
2b: Curry
3: Maxey

Can this work? I think it could be ok as long as Ben is playing. If he gets injured or misses any time, I don't see how the rest of the PG rotation holds up. Which is why I think we need a vet PG. Unless they're ready to throw Maxey into the fire, which I doubt.

[TTP]

Does it make sense to add Noel after we have signed D12?

So when Embiid is not sitting out a game, one of Noel or D12 will not play?

I feel like if were signing Noel, we would sign someone cheaper with less ego than D12.

This is why the D12 signing was “meh” for most of the fans.

I think you’re asking the wrong question. The real question is...does it make sense for Noel to sign here when he could get more playing time elsewhere? Would also likely piss Dwight off too. I’d love having Noel back, but it doesn’t make sense for him to sign here unless he’s getting more money.

[Skates]

Would you guys be disappointed if they don't use the MLE?

No I expect it. Their payroll is way out of control and using the MLE just makes it even worse. This is the price they have to pay for the previous several years of abject stupidity.

I would be disappointed since it not only would help the team on the floor, in the financial long run if used properly it gains you another asset that might be used later to make a larger trade (either by trading that player or someone else being made expendable). Taxed teams have limited opportunities to add assets, so unless we lose the MLE by somehow getting to the point, a complicated thing itself, where we can do a S&T, We should use it, but not in an overpay.

[TTP]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick. I believe we were also already rumored to be part of that initial Steven Adams trade and you’ve got to think this is how.

[Arsenal]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick.

I'd even consider starting Hill over Curry if we get him. He's obviously not as good of a shooter, but he's still a damn good shooter and brings it on D also. The starting PG spot could be situational depending if we need O or D.

PG Hill | Curry
SG Green | Shake
SF Simmons | Thybulle
PF Harris | Scott
CE Embiid | Howard

[Sixerscan]

I wonder if we're targeting a PG at all? Here's our current situation w/1 roster spot projected to be open:

1: Simmons
2a: Milton
2b: Curry
3: Maxey

Can this work? I think it could be ok as long as Ben is playing. If he gets injured or misses any time, I don't see how the rest of the PG rotation holds up. Which is why I think we need a vet PG. Unless they're ready to throw Maxey into the fire, which I doubt.

Well on the other hand Embiid and Howard are the only centers on the full roster and Harris and Scott are the only 4s. Sure Simmons will probably play a lot of 4 but with how much time Embiid misses and how no one wants to play Scott a 4 might be more important than a point.

[Arsenal]

I wonder if we're targeting a PG at all? Here's our current situation w/1 roster spot projected to be open:

1: Simmons
2a: Milton
2b: Curry
3: Maxey

Can this work? I think it could be ok as long as Ben is playing. If he gets injured or misses any time, I don't see how the rest of the PG rotation holds up. Which is why I think we need a vet PG. Unless they're ready to throw Maxey into the fire, which I doubt.

Well on the other hand Embiid and Howard are the only centers on the full roster and Harris and Scott are the only 4s. Sure Simmons will probably play a lot of 4 but with how much time Embiid misses and how no one wants to play Scott a 4 might be more important than a point.

Yeah we need both considering we can't rely on Scott. That means sign 1 and trade for the other most likely.

[the_process]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick. I believe we were also already rumored to be part of that initial Steven Adams trade and you’ve got to think this is how.

Could be the 2nd 5 team trade in NBA history.

[TTP]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick.

I'd even consider starting Hill over Curry if we get him. He's obviously not as good of a shooter, but he's still a damn good shooter and brings it on D also. The starting PG spot could be situational depending if we need O or D.

PG Hill | Curry
SG Green | Shake
SF Simmons | Thybulle
PF Harris | Scott
CE Embiid | Howard

Ya agreed. I’m thinking Hill for Zhaire + Scott + 21 Knicks 2nd + 23 2nd (best of hornets, hawks, nets). Thunder might hold out for a 1st though.

[Sixerscan]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick. I believe we were also already rumored to be part of that initial Steven Adams trade and you’ve got to think this is how.

Could be the 2nd 5 team trade in NBA history.

I'm just assuming Billy King was involved in the other one.

[Skates]

Milton, Curry and possibly Maxey are all more suited to being secondary ball handlers, creative to some extent as wings, but not primary creators. It showed last year in the bubble with Simmons out, Shake is far more SG with a handle and some passing skills than a PG. Even if it is just a deep bench pure PG who can play when Simmons can't, we need another PG on the roster. In the future Maybe Maxey develops into that role, but not as a rookie.

[Arsenal]

Milton, Curry and possibly Maxey are all more suited to being secondary ball handlers, creative to some extent as wings, but not primary creators. It showed last year in the bubble with Simmons out, Shake is far more SG with a handle and some passing skills than a PG. Even if it is just a deep bench pure PG who can play when Simmons can't, we need another PG on the roster. In the future Maybe Maxey develops into that role, but not as a rookie.

Even though he's not a "pure" PG, I think we could manage if we get George Hill. That's my expectation at this point.

I agree the current PG situation is untenable.

[Skates]

Milton, Curry and possibly Maxey are all more suited to being secondary ball handlers, creative to some extent as wings, but not primary creators. It showed last year in the bubble with Simmons out, Shake is far more SG with a handle and some passing skills than a PG. Even if it is just a deep bench pure PG who can play when Simmons can't, we need another PG on the roster. In the future Maybe Maxey develops into that role, but not as a rookie.

Even though he's not a "pure" PG, I think we could manage if we get George Hill. That's my expectation at this point.

I agree the current PG situation is untenable.

Agreed, Hill is a PG leaning combo guard, he would be a great pickup. I just don't see Shake as a PG, Tobias ended up being more of a creator than Shake in many games minus Simmons, and that can't happen. Pure PG was a bad choice of words, I really meant capable of PG level running a team.

[ckchen]

DJ Augustine gone to Bucks. FVV resigns with Tampa, not that we had a chance.

Our PG options are getting slim. Jeff Teague's RPM last season makes him look completely washed so perhaps not a good option.

I’d bet on us trading for George Hill at this point. Great undervalued player. Great fit. Thunder are going to be fiending for another pick. I believe we were also already rumored to be part of that initial Steven Adams trade and you’ve got to think this is how.

Could be the 2nd 5 team trade in NBA history.

Is this even feasible? When you have a 5 team trade every team has to "touch" the 4 other teams in the trade - which makes trades involving that many teams basically impossible, and why you don't even want to get involved in multi-team trades this large, every team doesn't have 3 extra throw-ins to include in trades.

[Kobblehead]

I wonder if we're targeting a PG at all? Here's our current situation w/1 roster spot projected to be open:

1: Simmons
2a: Milton
2b: Curry
3: Maxey

Can this work? I think it could be ok as long as Ben is playing. If he gets injured or misses any time, I don't see how the rest of the PG rotation holds up. Which is why I think we need a vet PG. Unless they're ready to throw Maxey into the fire, which I doubt.

I think we should be targeting a PG because none of those guys really possess a combination of creating off the dribble and distributing.

Simmons can't score off the dribble.
Milton can't score off the dribble and is a secondary distributor, at best.
Curry can't dribble or pass.
Maxey isn't a natural facilitator (he's not a black hole, though).

We could really use an Elfrid Payton type as insurance. Followed by a later trade for a George Hill typpe.