Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End

Celts17Pride · Post #841 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:48 am

California Gold · Post #842 » by **California Gold** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:49 am

SMTBSI · Post #843 » by **SMTBSI** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:49 am

Honestly, Bogdan is fun to talk about, but just send them a 2nd to make that TPE and call it a day. That'll be super useful to have in our back pocket, and can carry it all the way to next year's free agency, as Darth said.

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #844 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:49 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:Could JJ Redick be a target if we got the trade exception? I believe he makes about $18 million but could be wrong

He makes 13 million. Eric Gordon would be my choice at 16 million.

Depending how much the TPE was, Aldridge makes 24..I wonder what else San Antonio would want for him.

celticfan42487 · Post #845 » by **celticfan42487** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:49 am

ajones9219 wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
Edug27 wrote:So.. back to my count..

Kemba / Teague / Pritchard
Smart / Langford
Brown / Semi / Nesmith
Tatum / G.Williams
TT / Theis / R.Williams

I can dig it. Just get me one more scorer/shooter off the bench.. or starter to move Smart to the bench

My one concern after seeing the Celtics play against the zone in the playoffs is

Kemba / Teague / Pritchard
Smart / Langford
Brown / Semi / Nesmith
Tatum / G.Williams
TT / Theis / R.Williams

The players in red in that rotation have confirmed they can't shoot.

And Pritchard has as much hype as Edwards did about his shooting ability so he's suspect until proven in that area. Not that he'd see any minutes now with Teague on board.

Marcus Smart is borderline these days with his 3 point shooting though. Almost average which is what you need.

I won't stand for this smart and g.williams slander

Well as long as you sit far enough away to not be hit by the bricks when they're left wide open all year by every team doubling Tatum and/or Kemba every game haha.

themoneyteam2 · Post #846 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:49 am

I think if they got TPE it would be on an expiring guy and not a long-term guy. Just a hunch. I think they would rather have some flexibility to add a max spot next summer, which could be made by trading Kemba.

Asian Celtic · Post #847 » by **Asian Celtic** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:50 am

Edug27 wrote:So.. back to my count..

Kemba / Teague / Pritchard
Smart / Langford
Brown / Semi / Nesmith
Tatum / G.Williams
TT / Theis / R.Williams

I can dig it. Just get me one more scorer/shooter off the bench.. or starter to move Smart to the bench

I hope Nesmith goes ahead of Semi or Langford. That shooting looks tempting.

Celts17Pride · Post #848 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

SMTBSI wrote:Honestly, Bogdan is fun to talk about, but just send them a 2nd to make that TPE and call it a day. That'll be super useful to have in our back pocket, and can carry it all the way to next year's free agency, as Darth said.

Agree but I bet Ainge has a target in mind

Post #849 » by **zimpy27** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Batum would put us over the tax right?

we can't unless it's a trade that sends him out right away for a player under 21m for hard cap reasons. So unlikely this has anything to do with Batum.

Wouldn't they just expand it to:

BOS give: Hayward (SnT), FRP
BOS get: Bogdan (SnT)

CHA give: Zeller, FRP
CHA get: Hayward (SnT)

SAC give: Bogdan (SnT)
SAC get: Zeller, FRP, FRP

ThirtyFour · Post #850 » by **ThirtyFour** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:Could JJ Redick be a target if we got the trade exception? I believe he makes about $18 million but could be wrong

Celtics are getting EVERYONE!!

MagicBagley18 · Post #851 » by **MagicBagley18** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

SMTBSI wrote:
reload141 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:I love Beal, he’s near the top of my wishlist. But they are shopping wall and told him straight up they are going to build around Beal instead of him.

Yeah it's not Beal, we are clearly doing this to trade for Luka.

Players that could fit into a 30mil TPE:

Horford
Wiggins
Drummond
Batum

Woo let's do this.

We just missed out on love baby haha

jeremym480 · Post #852 » by **jeremym480** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:Could JJ Redick be a target if we got the trade exception? I believe he makes about $18 million but could be wrong

With the Pels trading for Adams it appears that they're trying to win again... Knowing and having a rooting interesting the Pelicans, I 'd be willing to bet that he'll probably be an option in the middle of the season though.

outcry · Post #853 » by **outcry** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 am

celticfan42487 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
He's still soundly better than TT and Turner. Which is whom his competition in this conversation was. Or at the very least TT is.

Nah! Theis is just a hard worker. I have seen enough of him passing the ball with only butler guarding him 3 feet of the basket. He just doesn’t know what to do with the ball on his own. At least TT can’t be bullied by Bam. Turner is a better offensive player than Theis, and a better shot blocker on the block.

I agree Theis is not as strong as TT at teh Center spot.

I fully disagree on every level that TT is a better player than Theis.

So I guess mark it down when Theis is a free agent next year to see what he gets paid and we can see who the league agrees with.

Okay green teamer. This is why I don’t bother with this forum. TT is a better player than Theis. There isn’t even a question about it. None.

Post #854 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:52 am

SMTBSI wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
celtxman wrote:It appears to be an opinion . That said I dont want to hear about avoiding luxury tax. The team is worth over $ 3 billion. The Nets are spending money as if they're printing it, no luxury tax problems. Joe Harris $20 million per.....no problem...done deal....now on to Ibaka, and we'll still go after Harden. STOP WITH BEING UNDER THE TAX. Enough! Put on your big boy pants.
Get the trade exception at the least from Charlotte and be prepared to really try to use it creatively. Hayward going to Charlotte may end up being a blessing in disguise. What if Beal wants out into the season with the whole John Wall circus? The Celtics could be in play on anyone. No one says we have to use it right away

we used the full MLE on TT, we can't go above the tax apron, which is like 2m or so above the tax line.

Apron's typically about 6 mil over tax line. Do we have reason to believe it's different this year?

could be right, i just think if they can stay out of tax and delay the repeater tax that much further ahead, they will do it unless the deal is too good to turn down.

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GotDaSauce · Post #856 » by **GotDaSauce** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:52 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:
Batum would put us over the tax right?

we can't unless it's a trade that sends him out right away for a player under 21m for hard cap reasons. So unlikely this has anything to do with Batum.

Wouldn't they just expand it to:

BOS give: Hayward (SnT), FRP
BOS get: Bogdan (SnT)

CHA give: Zeller, FRP
CHA get: Hayward (SnT)

SAC give: Bogdan (SnT)
SAC get: Zeller, FRP, FRP

Is this Zeller interest from Sac a posted rumor or are you guys just finding someone that makes the salaries work?

BRUNiNHO91 · Post #857 » by **BRUNiNHO91** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:52 am

Dogen wrote:
Higgs Boston wrote:is much more important to get someone like bogdanovic to fill hayward position than a random center that will not impact the game at all.

Yes, one more shooter. Bogi is creative with the rock too. He'd look great out there with Jaylen and Jayson.

Got to be careful and not bring in too many mouth to feed though. Part of the reason I wanted Millsap is because he doesn't need the ball to contribute.

Btw how funny would it be if we went after Horford? Lol

themoneyteam2 · Post #858 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:53 am

I mean Celtics and Hayward agreed to extend his player option deadline back 2 days so he could scour the market before opting out. That seemed to point to them working out a sign and trade deal which is why it was crushing that they lost him for nothing. Would make sense that they are trying to work out a deal now

Dogen · Post #859 » by **Dogen** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:53 am

GotDaSauce wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:4 for $80 for bogdanovich. Trade out a first or Two for him. Hell, I would give them Pritchard or Romeo.

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Gotta say I dont know much about the guy other than he is good. Is he 20 mil a year good though?

Better for this team than Hayward, and younger. Not a very good defender from what I saw, but not for lack of effort, he's just not very strong. But he's crafty and can shoot and pass. Great compliment to the roster, could start with Kemba, Jaylen, Jayson and Tristan.

reload141 · Post #860 » by **reload141** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:53 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:
Batum would put us over the tax right?

we can't unless it's a trade that sends him out right away for a player under 21m for hard cap reasons. So unlikely this has anything to do with Batum.

Wouldn't they just expand it to:

BOS give: Hayward (SnT), FRP
BOS get: Bogdan (SnT)

CHA give: Zeller, FRP
CHA get: Hayward (SnT)

SAC give: Bogdan (SnT)
SAC get: Zeller, FRP, FRP

zimpy is all in.

YESSSSSSSS