Around the League: 2020 Offseason

Post #321 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:32 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I think the Heat are a really strong team in the present, but I do envision them falling off hard when Jimmy Butler exits his prime and Tyler Herro becomes their lead offensive initiator. I see a Booker/Suns, Beal/Wizards, Lavine/Bulls with Herro at the helm.

They're looking to make big moves next summer, and have a better track record than those other teams at pulling it off.

stormi · Post #322 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:34 pm

Yup. They signed a bunch of 1+1 option deals this summer. The plan is Giannis 2021, but even if not they have the cap to chase a star. Envious of how Pat Riley operates. He's our biggest threat currently in the New Morey Era.

Skates · Post #323 » by **Skates** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:36 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I think the Heat are a really strong team in the present, but I do envision them falling off hard when Jimmy Butler exits his prime and Tyler Herro becomes their lead offensive initiator. I see a Booker/Suns, Beal/Wizards, Lavine/Bulls with Herro at the helm.

They're looking to make big moves next summer, and have a better track record than those other teams at pulling it off.

One of Butler's roles is as recruiter for other players to follow, mush as LeBron is setting up a transitional swing between himself and Anthony Davis as the next leader of the team. Heat organization is just so goodm and the draw of Miami as a city and no state income tax doesn't hurt either.

Kobblehead · Post #324 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:45 pm

I think Giannis would be the only longterm play that might make the Heat scary.

Landing Jrue or Oladipo would be more along the lines of the present, given their injury histories.

spikeslovechild · Post #325 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:57 am

Noel got a 1 year deal. Okafor 2 years.

Just sayin'

Post #326 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:02 am

spikeslovechild wrote:Noel got a 1 year deal. Okafor 2 years.

Just sayin'

Nerlens got more money for that one year than Okafor got for 2

spikeslovechild · Post #327 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:05 am

Sixerscan wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Noel got a 1 year deal. Okafor 2 years.

Just sayin'

Nerlens got more money for that one year than Okafor got for 2

lol

Post #328 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:28 am

^lol you got me

Read on Twitter

Gasol would be great for the Clippers if he has another run in him

Skates · Post #329 » by **Skates** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:48 am

Serge looked good last year, but in the past he has not always played that well after getting a new contract. Of course part of that might have been playing with Orlando, it has that effect on people.

Gasol was looking pretty gassed last season, still has the cleverness, but was moving slow as hell.

mithrandir17 · Post #330 » by **mithrandir17** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:00 am

Are the celtics fans ready for this type of play?

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Kobblehead · Post #331 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:12 am

I don't get the Tristan Thompson play for the Celtics. Bad post defender, switch liability, can't hit free throws. He's like everything you don't want in a big.

Kobblehead · Post #332 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:15 am

I'd rather the Nets get Ibaka than land Gasol, tbh.

Gasol is far more physically cooked, but still brings more to the table than Serge (better defender, better passer, as good a shooter). And he's a big physical body that can give Embiid problems.

76thBearCub · Post #333 » by **76thBearCub** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:39 am

Just a few years ago a Serge Ibaka type player was all you needed to make a plodding low post center with minimal defense make a front court work. Meanwhile he was about the only guy that was a legit rim protector and 3 point threat. Man was on to something.

Kobblehead · Post #334 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:27 am

Joe Harris getting nearly $20m a year lol. Again, if anyone needed any more proof that it's time to zag hard on this ridiculous trend of overvaluing shooting.

Skates · Post #335 » by **Skates** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:32 am

It is like late in the draft, some guys signing now are dudes I didn't even know were in the league.

Harris was right skill set and right place at the right time.

There might be some interesting guys getting cut or waived and stretched by teams doing financial gymnastics. Most will be trash, but might be a few shiny pieces there.

76ciology · Post #336 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:13 am

Just woke up.

Why the hell did Bobcats sign Hayward for that much? I thought they were rebuilding.

They could tank next season and sign Jalen Green.

The ball kid ain’t ready next season

76ciology · Post #337 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:17 am

Kobblehead wrote:Joe Harris getting nearly $20m a year lol. Again, if anyone needed any more proof that it's time to zag hard on this ridiculous trend of overvaluing shooting.

Thats what they’re saying. Shooting has become overvalued and Joe Harris getting that money is a very good example

76ciology · Post #338 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:18 am

Kobblehead wrote:I'd rather the Nets get Ibaka than land Gasol, tbh.

Gasol is far more physically cooked, but still brings more to the table than Serge (better defender, better passer, as good a shooter). And he's a big physical body that can give Embiid problems.

Exactly.

Gasol can slowdown Biid, we’d be left with little ammunition to go up against their potent offensive firepower.

eyeatoma · Post #339 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:30 am

Kobblehead wrote:Joe Harris getting nearly $20m a year lol. Again, if anyone needed any more proof that it's time to zag hard on this ridiculous trend of overvaluing shooting.

Kind of funny because two years ago, you were all for trading Embiid for Kat because Kat was such a good shooter.

76ciology · Post #340 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:37 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Joe Harris getting nearly $20m a year lol. Again, if anyone needed any more proof that it's time to zag hard on this ridiculous trend of overvaluing shooting.

Kind of funny because two years ago, you were all for trading Embiid for Kat because Kat was such a good shooter.

Longest view in the room

Fwiw, KAT instead of Biid would make us really good on offense.

Seth
Green
Tobi
Ben
KAT

Or if KAT wants to play PF..

Ben
Green or Seth
Tobi
KAT
D12