Back on the treadmill

VinBaker6 · Post #22 » by **VinBaker6** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:54 am

mdenny wrote:
VinBaker6 wrote:
mdenny wrote:A treadmill that has a max slot open for next year. Right.

All we needed for contention was serge Ibaka? The guy we benched in crunch time when facing elimination?

Enuff respect for serge....but he's not the difference between a treadmill team and a contender.
Yes, were getting Giannis. Great plan.

We have a max slot next season. How much farther did u think we were going with Ibaka this year than without?

This thread isn't about Ibaka. He wasn't gonna change our prospects. But we are worse without him.

SharoneWright · Post #23 » by **SharoneWright** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:55 am

Lowry is a great trade chip, plus we have cap. And Masai. We good.

YogurtProducer · Post #24 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:55 am

What was your solution? You think we should completely blow it out and take our slim chance at Giannis and make it a 0% chance?

Sheesh.

bon · Post #25 » by **bon** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 am

Be honest, you were going to make this thread whether Ibaka re-signed or not :lol:

YogurtProducer · Post #26 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 am

gp2015 wrote:
Reeko wrote:Assuming relative health for all of the teams in the conference, I don't think we're top 4 in the East. We're likely no better than 5th and or possibly 6th if Morey and Rivers can fix things in Philly. Losing Serge is a devastating blow for our offense. Jesus, if we don't re-sign Gasol we could be starting Boucher at the 5 next season. Things could get ugly.

Things are going to be ugly starting Gasol at the 5.

Not sure how we managed for 1.5 years now.

Tor_Raps · Post #27 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:57 am

MixxSRC wrote:Personally don't care about Tampa Bay season. They can tank it for all i care.

Theres a snowstorm in Toronto tomorrow with us going into a lockdown on Monday. All we have is to care about the raptors. What the hell else are we going to do with our time? Lol

Post #28 » by **Reeko** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:57 am

gp2015 wrote:
Reeko wrote:Assuming relative health for all of the teams in the conference, I don't think we're top 4 in the East. We're likely no better than 5th and or possibly 6th if Morey and Rivers can fix things in Philly. Losing Serge is a devastating blow for our offense. Jesus, if we don't re-sign Gasol we could be starting Boucher at the 5 next season. Things could get ugly.

Things are going to be ugly starting Gasol at the 5.

Yeah, but at least he keeps us elite defensively. With Boucher starting the offense and the defense suffer.

mdenny · Post #29 » by **mdenny** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:57 am

VinBaker6 wrote:
mdenny wrote:
VinBaker6 wrote:Yes, were getting Giannis. Great plan.

We have a max slot next season. How much farther did u think we were going with Ibaka this year than without?
This thread isn't about Ibaka. He wasn't gonna change our prospects. But we are worse without him.

Signing ibaka and losing our max slot for little to no return is the treadmill move. Keeping our max slot is the contender move.

gp2015 · Post #30 » by **gp2015** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:58 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
gp2015 wrote:
Reeko wrote:Assuming relative health for all of the teams in the conference, I don't think we're top 4 in the East. We're likely no better than 5th and or possibly 6th if Morey and Rivers can fix things in Philly. Losing Serge is a devastating blow for our offense. Jesus, if we don't re-sign Gasol we could be starting Boucher at the 5 next season. Things could get ugly.

Things are going to be ugly starting Gasol at the 5.

Not sure how we managed for 1.5 years now.

Ever heard of aging?

Tor_Raps · Post #31 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:59 am

I liked ibaka more than Gasol this past season but people need to chill on the Gasol hate. He is still good in a reduced role. I would love him back with a good young guy behind him.

gp2015 · Post #32 » by **gp2015** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:59 am

Reeko wrote:
gp2015 wrote:
Reeko wrote:Assuming relative health for all of the teams in the conference, I don't think we're top 4 in the East. We're likely no better than 5th and or possibly 6th if Morey and Rivers can fix things in Philly. Losing Serge is a devastating blow for our offense. Jesus, if we don't re-sign Gasol we could be starting Boucher at the 5 next season. Things could get ugly.

Things are going to be ugly starting Gasol at the 5.

Yeah, but at least he keeps us elite defensively. With Boucher starting the offense and the defense suffer.

I wouldn't mind Gasol coming off the bench or starting for specific matchups but I'd rather not have to rely on his as starting center for the season. Boucher is not that answer either.

Right now, it's looking like the front court will be a complete s*** show next season.

nestea · Post #33 » by **nestea** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:59 am

gp2015 wrote:
Reeko wrote:Assuming relative health for all of the teams in the conference, I don't think we're top 4 in the East. We're likely no better than 5th and or possibly 6th if Morey and Rivers can fix things in Philly. Losing Serge is a devastating blow for our offense. Jesus, if we don't re-sign Gasol we could be starting Boucher at the 5 next season. Things could get ugly.

Things are going to be ugly starting Gasol at the 5.

Let's hope he wants to go elsewhere

VinBaker6 · Post #34 » by **VinBaker6** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:00 am

YogurtProducer wrote:What was your solution? You think we should completely blow it out and take our slim chance at Giannis and make it a 0% chance?

Sheesh.

I have a bad feeling we're riding out the Fred Pascal duo.

We should've been better positioned to handle the Kyle inevitable decline. But he's still by far our best player. Not ideal.

realball · Post #35 » by **realball** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:01 am

VinBaker6 wrote:This is more due to the fact that we're still so heavily reliant on Kyle at his age. If Kyle loses a step this is a pretty bad team. I don't think this can be refuted.

Wait, you're saying we're reliant on the health of our best player? I am shocked.

Jcity08 · Post #36 » by **Jcity08** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:01 am

Lowry still has a couple of years left of solid basketball in him and his contract situation, like the majority of our contracts have been structured to give us the opportunity to make a play at 2021 Free Agency.

You may be pessimistic about our chances to sign a notable FA in 2021 but clearly Masai & Co aren't and that's all that counts for me.

You miss 100% of the shots you dont take and that includes next years free agent class.

Randle McMurphy · Post #37 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:01 am

Signing Ibaka wouldn’t have changed the fact that they aren’t contenders right now, so this isn’t new information.

Time to trade for Harden.

VinBaker6 · Post #38 » by **VinBaker6** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:02 am

mdenny wrote:
VinBaker6 wrote:
mdenny wrote:

We have a max slot next season. How much farther did u think we were going with Ibaka this year than without?
This thread isn't about Ibaka. He wasn't gonna change our prospects. But we are worse without him.

Signing ibaka and losing our max slot for little to no return is the treadmill move. Keeping our max slot is the contender move.

No one was advocating for signing Serge to long term money man.

VinBaker6 · Post #39 » by **VinBaker6** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:03 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:Signing Ibaka wouldn’t have changed the fact that they aren’t contenders right now, so this isn’t new information.

Time to trade for Harden.

I'm with you.

Pascal and all the picks. Get it done.

Randle McMurphy · Post #40 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:03 am

Tor_Raps wrote:I liked ibaka more than Gasol this past season but people need to chill on the Gasol hate. He is still good in a reduced role. I would love him back with a good young guy behind him.

Most people were hating on the guy back when he was a massive part of a championship team so it’s hardly a surprise. Some just can’t see past the counting stats.

If Gasol actually did return, at least the defense would still be elite.