Which player will have more to prove this season? Kawhi or Steph?
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Steph. He's gotten away with having all stars next to him for like 90% of his career and been labelled a top 5-10 player for a while. Time to see if he really belongs in the top by leading his team to a deep playoff run like Lebron has done time and time again. Kawhi already proved himself 2019.
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Young gun 6 wrote:Was it really Kawhi’s fault they lost 3-1?
PG completely **** the bed so did Harrell in the whole bubble concept.
Kawhi averaged 28/9/6/2/1 on 59% TS and elite defense.
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You shouldn't use stats like that, it's misleading try to watch some games instead and then take a look at the stats
Proof
Clippers vs Nuggets
Kawhi 24/8/6 54.8% TS
PG 21/5/3 58.7% TS
They both look good right?Wrong. They were both awful in crucial moments Kawhi for example scored 14 points and 13 points with abysmal shooting in 2/4 of their loses and was 8/18 (not good) in game 6.
And Kawhi's defense was very far away from elite. He was average at best, Murray cooked him.
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Why are people getting hung up on the word "prove". What player can boost their player perception more by having a great season this year? Is that better..
Kawhi choked.
People want to see Curry lead scrubs after taking a year off.
I dislike both. But I'll go with Curry. Definitely want to see what he can do without an absurdly stacked deck. If he misses the playoffs I'm having a party. All are welcome.
Kawhi choked.
People want to see Curry lead scrubs after taking a year off.
I dislike both. But I'll go with Curry. Definitely want to see what he can do without an absurdly stacked deck. If he misses the playoffs I'm having a party. All are welcome.
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Leonard is the better player peak wise and has more to prove.
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Jiminy Glick wrote:Leonard is the better player peak wise and has more to prove.
Peak wise? Currys 2015-16 season was not a video game, it’s a real one
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Both have nothing to prove, they are collecting bonus
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Steph has what to prove, leading a scrub team to the playoffs? What's the point of that again?
Kawhi is the luckiest star player to walk into two rings. And he completely destroyed the Clippers. He has more to prove outside of Giannis.
Kawhi is the luckiest star player to walk into two rings. And he completely destroyed the Clippers. He has more to prove outside of Giannis.
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TinmanZBoy wrote:Jiminy Glick wrote:Leonard is the better player peak wise and has more to prove.
Peak wise? Currys 2015-16 season was not a video game, it’s a real one
Not sure what you mean. Peak Leonard was Hall of Fame level on offense and defense though.
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Jiminy Glick wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:Jiminy Glick wrote:Leonard is the better player peak wise and has more to prove.
Peak wise? Currys 2015-16 season was not a video game, it’s a real one
Not sure what you mean. Peak Leonard was Hall of Fame level on offense and defense though.
Find me a peak Kawhi who can top Curry’s 2015-16 season
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neither has anything to prove. stephen curry had probably the greatest season offensively of all time, and kawhi spurned the spurs and won a championship the next season. neither one should be hand wringing over their legacies.
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TinmanZBoy wrote:Jiminy Glick wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:
Peak wise? Currys 2015-16 season was not a video game, it’s a real one
Not sure what you mean. Peak Leonard was Hall of Fame level on offense and defense though.
Find me a peak Kawhi who can top Curry’s 2015-16 season
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Kawhi, if either have anything to prove at all.
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Kawhi purely because of Clippers... They have put all their eggs on the Kawhi and Paul George basket and thus have to prove it was worth it.
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Don't think they need to prove something, both guys are multiple time winners, have a lot of accolades to their names, Curry will always be a fan favorite for the GSW, he was drafted there and helped them won 3 titles, he is more than any GSW dream when they drafted him. The guy is the freaking best shooter in history, if he retires now, its a pretty carreer.
Kawhi won a lot, defended a lot, made a great number of winning plays, he extended SAS winning window, he helped Toronto first title ever. The Clippers signing is controversial, like any time a superstar leaves his team.
Curry will have a hard time contending this year, Klay injury is of huge impact agains the team. Well the Kawhi error was signing with the Clippers, Clippers gonna Clippers, by now everyone should know. If I were him, I would play the season and leave, no major way to improve that disfunctional roster, and I also have no hope Playoff P will exist this season.
Both are great guys, that accomplished a lot, their carreers are already better than 99% of NBA players in history
Kawhi won a lot, defended a lot, made a great number of winning plays, he extended SAS winning window, he helped Toronto first title ever. The Clippers signing is controversial, like any time a superstar leaves his team.
Curry will have a hard time contending this year, Klay injury is of huge impact agains the team. Well the Kawhi error was signing with the Clippers, Clippers gonna Clippers, by now everyone should know. If I were him, I would play the season and leave, no major way to improve that disfunctional roster, and I also have no hope Playoff P will exist this season.
Both are great guys, that accomplished a lot, their carreers are already better than 99% of NBA players in history
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They have nothing to prove. They've both proven they are all-time greats and both have won multiple championships.
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Really neither, but definitely Kawhi if I'm forced to choose. He chose this franchise and he's coming off of a season where they were generally considered the favorites but were knocked out in the second round.
Curry, on the other hand, has two more MVP Awards and one more title than Kawhi and is almost unanimously considered the greatest shooter of all time. Everyone knows what Curry can do already. It's laughable that people would say a three-time champ and unanimous MVP still has much to prove. All he has to prove is what he is this season. He doesn't need to do anything to validate his past.
Kawhi, on the other hand, has only one title as his team's best player, and that team had the second best record in the NBA the season before he arrived and the season after he left. Now that I think about it that way, Kawhi does have more to prove!
Curry, on the other hand, has two more MVP Awards and one more title than Kawhi and is almost unanimously considered the greatest shooter of all time. Everyone knows what Curry can do already. It's laughable that people would say a three-time champ and unanimous MVP still has much to prove. All he has to prove is what he is this season. He doesn't need to do anything to validate his past.
Kawhi, on the other hand, has only one title as his team's best player, and that team had the second best record in the NBA the season before he arrived and the season after he left. Now that I think about it that way, Kawhi does have more to prove!
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Definitely KD. He's now on a team virtually hand-picked by him in the weak EC. If he's healthy and can't get to the Finals it seriously calls into question his impact on winning.
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slick_watts wrote:neither has anything to prove. stephen curry had probably the greatest season offensively of all time, and kawhi spurned the spurs and won a championship the next season. neither one should be hand wringing over their legacies.
Let’s see if he can have the greatest offensive season without Klay by his side and an elite roster that makes it easy for him.
Kawhi left the Spurs and joined the best team in the East. Not surprised he won a ring there even though it was against injured team. Kawhi choked away a 3-1 lead last year. He has alot to prove too.
Harry Garris wrote: Curry can turn non playoff teams into title contenders.
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What a pointless statement.Every Finals team had elite role players[/quote]
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Kawhi has two Finals MVPs. Two more than Steph. He was an afterthought when he was drafted and became one of the greatest two way players we’ve ever seen. He has nothing else to prove.