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Radu_Hornets wrote:Since no one is talking about this:
We are apparently still talking with the celtics for a sign and trade.
Our front office might be playing 4D Chess by saying we would waive Batum to make room for Hayward.
Getting Hayward without cutting Batum changes the whole story.
Hornet Mania wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:We weren't picking top 5 in next years draft without Hayward. No clue where some of you are getting this stuff.
Yeah, the young guys are still being underestimated. The team plays hard and doesn't quit on their coach, that puts them ahead of at least 5-6 hopeless cases any given season, just like last year. We were going to be in the middle of the pack relying on the lotto gods to hook us up with a top 4 pick again no matter what.
James Gatz wrote:Hornet Mania wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:We weren't picking top 5 in next years draft without Hayward. No clue where some of you are getting this stuff.
Yeah, the young guys are still being underestimated. The team plays hard and doesn't quit on their coach, that puts them ahead of at least 5-6 hopeless cases any given season, just like last year. We were going to be in the middle of the pack relying on the lotto gods to hook us up with a top 4 pick again no matter what.
If we wouldn't have signed Hayward we certainly would be. We were the 4th worse team in net rating last year. All those teams (GS, MIN, ATL) will be better. If we had given Ball the keys we would likely be around the 3rd 4th worse.
Next season should have been about developing Ball. If we are trying to win games then he shouldn't really be on the floor. That doesn't make any sense in a long term view.
I get that people want to justify bad moves. It's our team and we love them no matter what. But like a child we get to be disappointed when they make mistakes. We don't need to justify their bad behavior because we love them.
Liver_Pooty wrote:We weren't picking top 5 in next years draft without Hayward. No clue where some of you are getting this stuff.
DY_nasty wrote:Radu_Hornets wrote:Since no one is talking about this:
We are apparently still talking with the celtics for a sign and trade.
Our front office might be playing 4D Chess by saying we would waive Batum to make room for Hayward.
Getting Hayward without cutting Batum changes the whole story.
no it doesn't
Chapelchilla wrote:DY_nasty wrote:Radu_Hornets wrote:Since no one is talking about this:
We are apparently still talking with the celtics for a sign and trade.
Our front office might be playing 4D Chess by saying we would waive Batum to make room for Hayward.
Getting Hayward without cutting Batum changes the whole story.
no it doesn't
Yeah, it does. Not screwing up the cap for 3 years of nothing makes a huge difference.
DY_nasty wrote:Chapelchilla wrote:DY_nasty wrote:no it doesn't
Yeah, it does. Not screwing up the cap for 3 years of nothing makes a huge difference.
it doesn't erase the fact that hayward's contract is still terrible. batum's stretch just changes things from being simply crippling and awful to one of the worst afternoons in FA ever seen
"the whole story"? nah. the only thing dumber than this was signing luol deng and mozgov to massive contracts one second after midnight. the lakers were STILL trying to deal with deng's contract just last month: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-reportedly-want-career-ending-injury-exception-on-luol-dengs-salary-but-are-facing-an-uphill-battle/
mitch loves these jack of all trades wings with career altering injuries
DY_nasty wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:We weren't picking top 5 in next years draft without Hayward. No clue where some of you are getting this stuff.
we massively overachieved this past year
KembaWalker wrote:this is an investment in LaMelo. we have 4 years of his rookie contract where more eyes are gonna be on this franchise than ever before, probably by a factor of 10x+ if you believe the FSS viewership numbers. dudes a facilitator and needs people to facilitate. if we throw him out there on ESPN and TNT games and don't give him a real chance to play his game with competent running mates we are just ruining his development and setting him up to get destroyed in the media. last thing you want is LaMelo hesitating on swinging to Bridges cause he knows the ball is gonna stop or end in a clank
316Hornets wrote:This is a playoff team. A lot of people haven't accepted that reality.
We have young guys(Devonte, Monk) playing for new contracts. After the Kemba debacle, we have to show we are committed to our guys. Bringing in a guy that elevates everyone around him is a great start.
Devonte was getting frustrated last season having to carry the team while being played to the vest due to our lack of shooters. We now have multiple guys ready to launch from deep. There's going to be some great games coming up, enjoy it.
