Free Agency, Rumors, Thoughts in General 2.0

[blind prophet]

oh goody, be in the mix for Gasol, end up with WCS for more money. Wheee.

At least its not Boogie I suppose.

Also Dallas with the commitment to Barea, are at 16 gtd deals. Guess this means a short camp battle?

It's not that bad Chuck.

WCS runs the floor well and offers some switching potential defensively that's hard to get from a center. He is what he is, but has some tools.

[blind prophet]

After the WCS deal and Javale notions...

Wanted to let people who did not know Kosta Koufos wants to return to the NBA, unless things have changed he was always ready to go. A complete pro, predictable in what he does, never tried to do too much. Tough, good team defender, reliable hook shot, fundamental with rebounding.

Heard he wants to go to the Cavs, but he's out there.

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[Karmaloop]

Ok, but why would Toronto, the only other team he wants to go to, do this. Lakers would have to really wow them with an offer

So they get something instead of nothing? I'd imagine that Marc has a number that he wants, which is probably a bit more than the veteran minimum. If he can get that, getting a TPE even if it's a small one would be a nice tool to have.

[DirtyDez]

Suns have added some legitimate adults; Paul, Crowder and Moore.

[Texas Chuck]

oh goody, be in the mix for Gasol, end up with WCS for more money. Wheee.

At least its not Boogie I suppose.

Also Dallas with the commitment to Barea, are at 16 gtd deals. Guess this means a short camp battle?

It's not that bad Chuck.

WCS runs the floor well and offers some switching potential defensively that's hard to get from a center. He is what he is, but has some tools.

Yes he's a back of the rotation big man. Great. Dallas has plenty mid and back of rotation players on the roster. They needed guys who improved their best 5. Richardson does that. Then they needed some guys who improved their best 8. Still only Richardson. Then they needed some guys who improved their best 10. Still just Richardson.

That's disappointing for a team on the rise with a traditionally aggressive FO/ownership.

This isn't about trashing WCS or Johnson or Burke or the draft picks. I'm actually excited about Terry--eventually. This is about them not adding the higher end talent they still need. I love love love Maxi and Dorian. But they can't be top 5 players on your roster and you expect to contend unless your 2nd guy is both better and more dependable than KP. I mean I think Luka is going to own this league one day, but that day is not today. He needs more help and the sooner he gets it the better habits he can start building.

Right now this most efficient offense ever is poor at end of games and its because Luka doesn't trust anyone else enough. Dallas needs more high end guys.

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[Scoot McGroot]

Ok, but why would Toronto, the only other team he wants to go to, do this. Lakers would have to really wow them with an offer

It really depends what Gasol wants. If he says "I'm going to the Lakers...or the Knicks" then the Raps might as well just S&T Gasol to the Lakers for a TPE and cash or a 2nd.

Heck they might as well just take McGee back themselves. They're going to need centres.

If Gasol on the other hand says "I'm playing for the most money", then yeah, Toronto offers him that and is done with it.

Given the lakers hard cap situation and tradable salary I doubt Toronto would care about a $4m trade exception and that's as big as he Lakers can get

Because they'll likely also get $1m in cash, or a 2nd, or something tiny. All for doing their guy a solid. It's also the kind of thing that looks good with other players and agents, and just continues to build a solid reputation for the Raptors.

And they only do it if ultimately, he comes to them and says "I want to go to the Lakers".

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Ny first thought was tax savings maybe but then realized bradley makes more so I don't really get this at all. I feel like you can pluck a guy not significantly worse than Bradley from the g league. Zaire has upside. Idk

[blind prophet]

oh goody, be in the mix for Gasol, end up with WCS for more money. Wheee.

At least its not Boogie I suppose.

Also Dallas with the commitment to Barea, are at 16 gtd deals. Guess this means a short camp battle?

It's not that bad Chuck.

WCS runs the floor well and offers some switching potential defensively that's hard to get from a center. He is what he is, but has some tools.

Yes he's a back of the rotation big man. Great. Dallas has plenty mid and back of rotation players on the roster. They needed guys who improved their best 5. Richardson does that. Then they needed some guys who improved their best 8. Still only Richardson. Then they needed some guys who improved their best 10. Still just Richardson.

That's disappointing for a team on the rise with a traditionally aggressive FO/ownership.

This isn't about trashing WCS or Johnson or Burke or the draft picks. I'm actually excited about Terry--eventually. This is about them not adding the higher end talent they still need. I love love love Maxi and Dorian. But they can't be top 5 players on your roster and you expect to contend unless your 2nd guy is both better and more dependable than KP. I mean I think Luka is going to own this league one day, but that day is not today. He needs more help and the sooner he gets it the better habits he can start building.

Right now this most efficient offense ever is poor at end of games and its because Luka doesn't trust anyone else enough. Dallas needs more high end guys.

Hey thanks for putting this out there for a non Dallas fan to see the entire picture. When you put it that way, well, makes a ton of sense to be disappointed.

I guess the ultra short off season has Cuban a little racy?

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Ny first thought was tax savings maybe but then realized bradley makes more so I don't really get this at all. I feel like you can pluck a guy not significantly worse than Bradley from the g league. Zaire has upside. Idk

Bradley isn't all that great but he has at least shown he can play in the NBA. Zhaire hasn't, and with Danny Green and Seth Curry and Korkmaz in front of him that wasn't going to happen in Philly.

I, like most, would probably have preferred aggregating Zhaire and Mike Scott to pursue a better player, but for a win-now team this is still a (very small) positive.

[K_chile22]

uh okay

Ny first thought was tax savings maybe but then realized bradley makes more so I don't really get this at all. I feel like you can pluck a guy not significantly worse than Bradley from the g league. Zaire has upside. Idk

Bradley isn't all that great but he has at least shown he can play in the NBA. Zhaire hasn't, and with Danny Green and Seth Curry and Korkmaz in front of him that wasn't going to happen in Philly.

I, like most, would probably have preferred aggregating Zhaire and Mike Scott to pursue a better player, but for a win-now team this is still a (very small) positive.

Fair enough. Maybe I'm off on bradley, but I feel like you can find a bradley anywhere and at least bring Zaire to camp and see how he looks.

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[loserX]

Big day for the Hernangomezes:

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[rpa]

Follow-up question for the gallery on the Bogdan deal:

If the Kings had no intention of matching a reasonable (or better) offer for Bogdan why wouldn't they have just agreed to pull off the S&T and take a big TPE? It had to have been on the table (since it keeps Atlanta from having to tie up $16m for 2 days). Only reason I can think of is the Kings GM doing his best Danny Ainge impersonation and asking for too much before seeing the other side call his bluff. Any other ideas why not?

Also, total speculation on my part, but is any GM in the NBA evil genius enough to pull off the following:
Step 1: Leak a fake/hypothetical deal to Woj with the Bucks that plainly points to your (fake) breaking point (salary wise) and what Bogdan will accept
Step 2: Play Danny Ainge with teams and refuse to submit to a reasonable S&T offer for Bogdan
Step 3: Wait for another team to offer Bogdan a contract at leaked (but fake) breaking point
Step 4: Match the reasonable offer that everyone thought was above what you were willing to spend

[jbk1234]

Update on the Cavs: They still haven't signed anyone. Not one player.

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[blind prophet]

Update on the Cavs: They still haven't signed anyone. Not one player.

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Better than bad contracts.

Makes me wonder if they haven't been active because they've been close in a couple of trades and don't know where the roster will be at just yet?

[BoogieTime]

Follow-up question for the gallery on the Bogdan deal:

If the Kings had no intention of matching a reasonable (or better) offer for Bogdan why wouldn't they have just agreed to pull off the S&T and take a big TPE? It had to have been on the table (since it keeps Atlanta from having to tie up $16m for 2 days). Only reason I can think of is the Kings GM doing his best Danny Ainge impersonation and asking for too much before seeing the other side call his bluff. Any other ideas why not?

Also, total speculation on my part, but is any GM in the NBA evil genius enough to pull off the following:
Step 1: Leak a fake/hypothetical deal to Woj with the Bucks that plainly points to your (fake) breaking point (salary wise) and what Bogdan will accept
Step 2: Play Danny Ainge with teams and refuse to submit to a reasonable S&T offer for Bogdan
Step 3: Wait for another team to offer Bogdan a contract at leaked (but fake) breaking point
Step 4: Match the reasonable offer that everyone thought was above what you were willing to spend

Doesn’t make sense

He’s not going to want to involve himself on a potential tampering charge and piss off Milwaukee and the players involved including Justin James. Milwaukee would’ve steadfastly denied

It’s not a reasonable offer

[MoneyTalks41890]

This was coined to describe a certain public figure but think it applies to the theory above: it’s not 4-D chess as much as they are eating the pieces

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Pels and Ingram must be debating that 5th year.