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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#401 » by RubberSoul » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:27 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:In the draft leading up to Rodgers' age 36-37 season we went:

1) 3rd string QB
2) 3rd string RB
3) 3rd string TE

At the trade deadline we don't address a single need despite being Super Bowl contenders.

Wonder if a player or two might have helped in a game like yesterday afternoon's...

Yeah but just wait till 2024!! That’s when they will be playing for 2027.


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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#402 » by tski1972 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:46 pm

Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#403 » by raysbookclub » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:59 pm

tski1972 wrote:Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.


And they attempted a kickoff return almost every time, even out of the end zone. Colts definitely saw GB's ST as a weak unit.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#404 » by Treebeard » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:33 pm

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tski1972 wrote:Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.


And they attempted a kickoff return almost every time, even out of the end zone. Colts definitely saw GB's ST as a weak unit.


Shepherd doesn't have the breakaway speed, nor can he break a tackle, plus he doesn't have great hands..... He's been given a job he doesn't have the skills for.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#405 » by Treebeard » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:35 pm

On the mis-placed players, why have they tried to turn Preston Smith into Kyler Fackerl's replacement? Smith's best (only?) skill is as a pass rusher.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#406 » by Pugger » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:41 pm

As someone said earlier - you won't win when you turn it over like we did. :( The only good things about yesterday are we are still in first place in the division and MN lost. At home. :blank:
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#407 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:19 pm

trwi7 wrote:I was curious so I went back. We were lined up and set with 23 seconds left (could've been around 30 if we went faster) with a 1st down 3 yards away. Pick up 4-5 yards and you probably have 2nd and goal from the 3 or 4 with 15 seconds. Just inexcusable time management.


This. Wish I could lay the entirety of blame for this loss at the defense's feet considering it was another pathetic performance against a below-average NFL offense, but we had four drives consecutively to either tie or take the lead, and we came away with 3 points. With even the slightest sense of time management on that last drive we get an extra shot at the end zone from less than 10 yards out. Just overall bone-head play-calling by LaFleuer in the 2nd half on this one.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#408 » by Treebeard » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:39 pm

Time management in general has remained a problem. Better than the McCarthy days, but still too often an issue
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#409 » by Pugger » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:50 pm

Screwing around with the play clock and burning time outs has been driving me crazy for a while now. :nonono:
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#410 » by PintSizedBox10 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:54 pm

tski1972 wrote:Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.
The Packers don't invest in special teams - specifically competent return men. Is Shepherd the best we can muster? An undersized guy who runs a 4.7? Plus as you pointed out, the blocking on the returns is so laughably bad it probably wouldn't matter who's back there.

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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#411 » by sdn40 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:54 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
trwi7 wrote:I was curious so I went back. We were lined up and set with 23 seconds left (could've been around 30 if we went faster) with a 1st down 3 yards away. Pick up 4-5 yards and you probably have 2nd and goal from the 3 or 4 with 15 seconds. Just inexcusable time management.


This. Wish I could lay the entirety of blame for this loss at the defense's feet considering it was another pathetic performance against a below-average NFL offense, but we had four drives consecutively to either tie or take the lead, and we came away with 3 points. With even the slightest sense of time management on that last drive we get an extra shot at the end zone from less than 10 yards out. Just overall bone-head play-calling by LaFleuer in the 2nd half on this one.


The offense scored 31 points, which is their average, and ranks 3rd in the NFL.
The defense gave up 34 points, which would rank dead last
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#412 » by raysbookclub » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:06 pm

Treebeard wrote:
books wrote:
tski1972 wrote:Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.


And they attempted a kickoff return almost every time, even out of the end zone. Colts definitely saw GB's ST as a weak unit.


Shepherd doesn't have the breakaway speed, nor can he break a tackle, plus he doesn't have great hands..... He's been given a job he doesn't have the skills for.


Yes, though I worded this badly. I meant the the Colts tried to return every kickoff, seeing on tape that GB can't cover kickoffs. And the Colts kicked short, seeing on tape that GB can't return kicks either.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#413 » by M-C-G » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:19 pm

sdn40 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
trwi7 wrote:I was curious so I went back. We were lined up and set with 23 seconds left (could've been around 30 if we went faster) with a 1st down 3 yards away. Pick up 4-5 yards and you probably have 2nd and goal from the 3 or 4 with 15 seconds. Just inexcusable time management.


This. Wish I could lay the entirety of blame for this loss at the defense's feet considering it was another pathetic performance against a below-average NFL offense, but we had four drives consecutively to either tie or take the lead, and we came away with 3 points. With even the slightest sense of time management on that last drive we get an extra shot at the end zone from less than 10 yards out. Just overall bone-head play-calling by LaFleuer in the 2nd half on this one.


The offense scored 31 points, which is their average, and ranks 3rd in the NFL.
The defense gave up 34 points, which would rank dead last


While I completely agree the defense is a problem, what was the second half time of possession for our offense? Like 3 minutes? That's a major problem.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#414 » by msiris » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:48 pm

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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#415 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:00 pm

Pugger wrote:Screwing around with the play clock and burning time outs has been driving me crazy for a while now. :nonono:
I wondered if that was a McCarthy thing but the last two years proves that's a Rodgers thing. I get he wants as much time as possible to get the D to show but it's incredibly annoying to watch.

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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#416 » by M-C-G » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:10 pm

I am going to say on at least three occasions I noticed Amos had a decision to either explode forward and make a play or sit back on his heels and get run over for a first down. I am not sure if this is coached or something , but seems like a big problem with this defense for at least two years. Wait and play it safe and drag the guy down for three extra yards versus attack.

I think there is a lot of legitimate talent on this defense and it is being held back other than a few guys. Also, no more Preston Williams in coverage for the love of God.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#417 » by Mags FTW » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:51 am

PintSizedBox10 wrote:
tski1972 wrote:Can’t defend the Shepherd fumble, but let’s not act like the return team in whole was pathetic and there was a reason why the Colts kept kicking it short.
The Packers don't invest in special teams - specifically competent return men. Is Shepherd the best we can muster?

No, Ervin is.
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#418 » by sdn40 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:15 am

M-C-G wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
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This. Wish I could lay the entirety of blame for this loss at the defense's feet considering it was another pathetic performance against a below-average NFL offense, but we had four drives consecutively to either tie or take the lead, and we came away with 3 points. With even the slightest sense of time management on that last drive we get an extra shot at the end zone from less than 10 yards out. Just overall bone-head play-calling by LaFleuer in the 2nd half on this one.


The offense scored 31 points, which is their average, and ranks 3rd in the NFL.
The defense gave up 34 points, which would rank dead last


While I completely agree the defense is a problem, what was the second half time of possession for our offense? Like 3 minutes? That's a major problem.


By rule - the defense can force a 3 and out at any time. Then the offense would be on the field more
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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#419 » by M-C-G » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:37 am

By rule the offense can gain ten yards and receive four more downs.


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Re: Game 10: Packers at Colts - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#420 » by sdn40 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:08 am

M-C-G wrote:By rule the offense can gain ten yards and receive four more downs.


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31 points - which is 3rd in the NFL. Created a 14 point lead, not once, but twice. If you expect more than that, I can't help you.

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