Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End

[CeltsfaninDC]

Imagine not wanting to move brown for beal and James harden lol

Imagine thinking you could get either of those two with Brown. One of the reasons why WAS wont trade him is because they know they wont get value back. But you keep on with the passive aggressive stuff.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Am guessing the Knicks will trade for Rozier, which opens cap space for Hayward.

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[SmartWentCrazy]

Imagine not wanting to move brown for beal and James harden lol

To be honest, Beal is kinda fools gold. He spams stats and plays near Trae-level defense. Like, its troubling to me he couldnt lead his team above the Magic last year. If he was this mega star, and Bertans is the guy they say he is, he should be able to beat out the Vuc led Magic.

Harden tho, I’m with you.

[Darth Celtic]

Am guessing the Knicks will trade for Rozier, which opens cap space for Hayward.

makes the most sense. They need a pg badly.

[Curmudgeon]

Charlotte could start by trading Cody Zeller to the Clips for Zubac and Pat Bev, and then re-routing Pat Bev to the Celtics. Celtics would give Charlotte a lottery-protected first rounder and Romeo Langford goes to the Clippers.

Charlotte sends out 15 and takes in 7 (not counting Hayward), which frees up 8M of cap space.
Boston takes in 13 and sends out 4, generating a 21M (roughly) trade exception
Clips send out $20M and take back $19M.

[greenroom31]

We REALLY need another wing. Our depth as of this moment, is WORSE than last year, which I thought was not possible. Danny may have lost the big picture, while trying to squeeze the Pacers for blood.

To the contrary, I think the reason Ainge was squeezing the Pacers was precisely BECAUSE he wanted to get back more wing talent. If rumors are to be believed, he was asking for Warren or Oladipo in addition to Turner and reticent to take back McDermott who wouldn't see the court with us.

Agreed that wing depth is the biggest risk though. For wings we have Jaylen and Tatum, and then we need to have Romeo or Nesmith (or Semi lol) step up and contribute.

PG grouping of Kemba, Smart, Teague (and Waters and Pritchard who will likely be in Maine) is not bad, or at least on par with last year.

Big rotation of Thompson, Theis, Grant, RWIII (and Tacko) is also not bad, or at least should be on par with last year.

[SmartWentCrazy]

The will win the East if they stay healthy. Book it, Dano. I'm talking about the last team standing, not regular season records.

I have them 2nd ...

Round out?

Both.

Regular season, continuity is HUGE. Especially with abridged offseason. I expect the Bucks to take a step back and the Heat to struggle a bit to start. Likely Philly too. Think we have a decent shot of winning the East in the regular season.

Come playoffs, its all matchup dependent. We made the ECFs without Hayward last year and def could again, though second round is the safer bet.

[Curmudgeon]

We REALLY need another wing. Our depth as of this moment, is WORSE than last year, which I thought was not possible. Danny may have lost the big picture, while trying to squeeze the Pacers for blood.

To the contrary, I think the reason Ainge was squeezing the Pacers was because he wanted to get back more wing talent. If rumors are to be believed, he was asking for Warren or Oladipo in addition to Turner and reticent to take back McDermott who wouldn't see the court with us.

For the 5th time, it was Oladipo OR Turner, not both. Together Dipo and Turner make 38M. No way Ainge was taking that kind of salary back and become hard capped.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Charlotte could start by trading Cody Zeller to the Clips for Zubac and Pat Bev, and then re-routing Pat Bev to the Celtics. Celtics would give Charlotte a lottery-protected first rounder and Romeo Langford goes to the Clippers.

Charlotte sends out 15 and takes in 7 (not counting Hayward), which frees up 8M of cap space.
Boston takes in 13 and sends out 4, generating a 21M (roughly) trade exception
Clips send out $20M and take back $19M.

Can't see Boston wanting Beverley, after signing Teague, unless they're dealing Kemba.

[greenroom31]

We REALLY need another wing. Our depth as of this moment, is WORSE than last year, which I thought was not possible. Danny may have lost the big picture, while trying to squeeze the Pacers for blood.

To the contrary, I think the reason Ainge was squeezing the Pacers was because he wanted to get back more wing talent. If rumors are to be believed, he was asking for Warren or Oladipo in addition to Turner and reticent to take back McDermott who wouldn't see the court with us.

For the 5th time, it was Oladipo OR Turner, not both. Together Dipo and Turner make 38M. No way Ainge was taking that kind of salary back and become hard capped.

We could've added someone else (or multiple people) to the deal also to make the money work

[Higgs Boston]

Beal has a PO in two years, he isn't staying with the wizards, just wait and make a S&T for him.

[Fencer reregistered]

Late lottery or mid-round.

Terry Rozier/Al Jefferson/Kelly Olynyk territory.

Also, at #14
Michael Porter, Bam Adebayo, TJ Warren

IMO Nesmith should have been picked much higher. Dude shot over 50 percent from 3. He has a NBA body as well. Not sure you could ask much more if your Ainge. He probably would have picked him even if he had the 8th pick.

For the short stretch before he got injured at the start of his most recent season.

But yes, the guy seems like both a great pick and an Ainge pick. Like Jaylen, he seems to be book smart, so the areas in which he seems to have low "BB IQ" should be upgradeable with work to where it's at least OK.

[sully00]

Maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up about it. Charlotte is under no obligation to do it, and not to mention, it's gonna. take a third team to pull it off anyway.

This is the rub right now this transaction as proposed by CHA is awful TPE aside. It is going to be complicated for them to create that 8 mil of cap space without stretching and waiving Batum but that really is a burden on their cap moving forward and their roster is super thin.

If I was CHA my focus would be on finding another way to get this deal done if that involves Boston great but not a focus.

I agree... They have NO players we would actually want. And who is gonna want to help Danny out now?

It isn't about helping Ainge. Doing the TPE is just a solid business move something that can help when you need some help on something it again costs CHA nothing to do. Ainge has these relationships with Memphis, OKC, POR he is able to work well with GS and at times the Clippers. Obviously those are West Coast teams so that helps. It is good to have a network of other front offices that will do you a favor or they will do a favor for you.

But first CHA needs to be focused on helping itself and that may not resolve quickly so I would stop worrying about it. Ainge rebounded with the signings of Thompson and Teague, those are deals that he could not have done if there was Hayward S&T that brought back talent it was an either or. I probably would have preferred the Turner package but there are plusses and minuses to both.

[Fencer reregistered]

The will win the East if they stay healthy. Book it, Dano. I'm talking about the last team standing, not regular season records.

Yes, but there's less margin for health error than when Hayward was here.

We would have gone to the Finals this season if Kemba's knee had been fine, even in light of Hayward's injury, but it would have been close. Next season we will be less able to afford to lose one of our top players.

Nah, it's all about Kemba's knee. 90% of Hayward's production can be easily replaced off the street. Shaq Harrison, Hollis-Jefferson, CJ Miles and MKG are still out there. And that's just the wings.

Sounds like what you used to say about Paul Pierce.

[ConstableGeneva]

Beal has a PO in two years, he isn't staying with the wizards, just wait and make a S&T for him.

If Beal opts out and insists on a S&T to Boston and nowhere else, I wonder if Wiz would take back an opted-in, expiring Kemba, a young prospect, and a 1st instead of getting nothing.

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, but there's less margin for health error than when Hayward was here.

We would have gone to the Finals this season if Kemba's knee had been fine, even in light of Hayward's injury, but it would have been close. Next season we will be less able to afford to lose one of our top players.

Nah, it's all about Kemba's knee. 90% of Hayward's production can be easily replaced off the street. Shaq Harrison, Hollis-Jefferson, CJ Miles and MKG are still out there. And that's just the wings.

Sounds like what you used to say about Paul Pierce.

So now Hayward is the second coming of Paul Pierce? Hayward wasn't even the second coming of Jeff Green.

[Celts17Pride]

Am guessing the Knicks will trade for Rozier, which opens cap space for Hayward.

Not so sure. Knicks saving cap space for 2021

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