Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions

[ReasonablySober]

Anyone who thinks you should trade him if he doesn't sign the extension is insane. Bottoming out literally isn't an option anymore. This is the direction they chose and it would just make winning a championship this year the only acceptable outcome.

What if he flat tells the Bucks he isn't going to re-sign?

[Ron Swanson]

Anyone who thinks you should trade him if he doesn't sign the extension is insane. Bottoming out literally isn't an option anymore. This is the direction they chose and it would just make winning a championship this year the only acceptable outcome.

What if he flat tells the Bucks he isn't going to re-sign?

You take the chance that a championship changes his mind.

[WRau1]

Anyone who thinks you should trade him if he doesn't sign the extension is insane. Bottoming out literally isn't an option anymore. This is the direction they chose and it would just make winning a championship this year the only acceptable outcome.

What if he flat tells the Bucks he isn't going to re-sign?

You would have to trade him then, I would think.

[LUKE23]

If he tells the Bucks he's not signing you trade him for the best package. I would hope he would at least give them that knowledge before the trade deadline.

[Ron Swanson]

Unless you guys think he's Kawhi and is dead set on going to a specific city even if we win a title, then good luck rebuilding the franchise with zero high draft picks for the next 7 years. This was a conversation before the Jrue trade, but it really isn't anymore. It's all or nothing at this point.

[skones]

He should be back in town by the end of this week.

And if he doesn't sign on the line, Horst might be the dumbest **** on the planet.

[LUKE23]

Unless you guys think he's Kawhi and is dead set on going to a specific city even if we win a title, then good luck rebuilding the franchise with zero high draft picks for the next 7 years. This was a conversation before the Jrue trade, but it really isn't anymore. It's all or nothing at this point.

If Giannis tells the Bucks before this trade deadline he's not staying for sure, then you need to trade him. And presumably you would be getting some draft compensation for that, potentially some really good draft compensation. I agree they are screwed regardless if he leaves based on the future picks given up, but you need to at least recoup what you can to pair with your 2021 and 2023 picks to rebuild the franchise.

[Touchpass]

There’s no way they don’t try and trade him if he says he isn’t signing. The Holiday trade is franchise crippling if you lose Giannis for nothing. Like sell the team, break the stadium contract and leave bad. We’re gonna get a quarter on the dollar return for Holliday. Middleton won’t get us a huge package either.

[ReasonablySober]

It's not just Giannis, you trade literally everyone.

[machu46]

One interesting thing to watch with this will be the Bam Adebayo situation in Miami, as Bam/Giannis both have Alex Saratsis representing them. The heat are trying to push-off on signing Bam to an extension to save cap space for Giannis. However, I can't see Saratsis allowing them to do that if he knows Giannis is going to re-sign.

Therefore, the longer Bam goes without an extension the more nervous I get about this

I don't really see why Bam/Saratsis would be in a rush. He'll almost certainly get his money next year regardless of what happens next year.

[LUKE23]

It's not just Giannis, you trade literally everyone.

Correct, and focus on draft picks, even if you need to take on crap salary (you want crap salary, you know, to be bad). I hope we are never having this conversation BTW.

[machu46]

Anyone who thinks you should trade him if he doesn't sign the extension is insane. Bottoming out literally isn't an option anymore. This is the direction they chose and it would just make winning a championship this year the only acceptable outcome.

What if he flat tells the Bucks he isn't going to re-sign?

At that point I think you have to see what offers are out there, but ultimately I'd probably still keep him.

[Touchpass]

You’d think most franchises wouldn’t make the Holiday trade without a guarantee from Giannis. Being it’s the Bucks, I’m terrified.

[Perishable517]

Anyone who thinks you should trade him if he doesn't sign the extension is insane. Bottoming out literally isn't an option anymore. This is the direction they chose and it would just make winning a championship this year the only acceptable outcome.

What if he flat tells the Bucks he isn't going to re-sign?

You take the chance that a championship changes his mind.

This is my thought, as well. Scared money makes no money.

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[Ron Swanson]

I think it's absolutely pointless to punt on the last season of championship contention just because you don't wanna miss out on some trade package of Bam/Tyler Herro and 3-4 late-1st round picks just so that you can ride out the treadmill for the next 7 years until you can tank again. He'd have to pull an Anthony Davis and flat out refuse to play/sabotage the franchise.

[paulpressey25]

And if he doesn't sign on the line, Horst might be the dumbest **** on the planet.

Horst isn't making these decisions. He's the order taker.

[paulpressey25]

I think it's absolutely pointless to punt on the last season of championship contention just because you don't wanna miss out on some trade package of Bam/Tyler Herro and 3-4 late-1st round picks just so that you can ride out the treadmill for the next 7 years until you can tank again. He'd have to pull an Anthony Davis and flat out refuse to play/sabotage the franchise.

That's just it. Miami isn't giving up those guys are they? And does Giannis want to go there if Miami did?

[greekbuck34]

You’d think most franchises wouldn’t make the Holiday trade without a guarantee from Giannis. Being it’s the Bucks, I’m terrified.

As I've said in a previous post a few days ago what if Giannis said through his agent I can't guarantee that I will sign the supermax but I guarantee I will not sign if you don't make huge moves to convince me. What would you do in this scenario? I think the same because of the fear and the pressure.

[machu46]

I think it's absolutely pointless to punt on the last season of championship contention just because you don't wanna miss out on some trade package of Bam/Tyler Herro and 3-4 late-1st round picks just so that you can ride out the treadmill for the next 7 years until you can tank again. He'd have to pull an Anthony Davis and flat out refuse to play/sabotage the franchise.

That's just it. Miami isn't giving up those guys are they? And does Giannis want to go there if Miami did?

I do not expect Miami would offer Bam at all. Probably Herro, maybe Butler if we insisted. But they want to sell Giannis on playing with Bam.

[raferfenix]

Trading unprotected first round picks is something you absolutely do not do if you might be tanking in the not too distant future.

Even if we were to trade Giannis / Middleton / Holiday for a boat load of assets, not controlling our own picks would be devastating during seasons where we suck, and the Bucks do not have a steady hand at the helm to kickstart a rebuild the way David Griffin has navigated with the Pelicans.

I desperately want to believe the Bucks would only do the Holiday trade knowing Giannis extending is a mere formality.

Rolling the dice on Giannis leaving for nothing in order to run it back another year is a whole different level of risk with so many unprotected firsts out of our control now. Holiday would walk too if Giannis bounces.