Windhorst: If Giannis doesn't sign a Supermax, AD will sign a 1+1 deal in order to recruit Giannis to Lakers next year

HoopsterJones · Post #41 » by **HoopsterJones** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:26 pm

If it happens, whatever rings that trio wins will carry little weight in all time rankings.

Pharmcat · Post #42 » by **Pharmcat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:27 pm

TheGOATWill wrote:I think Windhorst is just yanking your chains.

no hes not

the lakers have made a point not to go into 21 salary space with the contracts they handed out last 2 years (except KCP this year, he should be movable if GA commits). Lakers are players in 21 cap space

The High Cyde · Post #43 » by **The High Cyde** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:28 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Lebron winning a championship with AD and Giannis would be on the same level as Durant's championship with the warriors.

LeBron would be Curry in this situation though

Do people trash Curry for the Durant thing?

Yeah, his comparison doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 comparison; it’d still be lame af if this happened, there’d absolutely be no point in watching the league at that point.

dacrusha · Post #44 » by **dacrusha** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 pm

Andrew_M08 wrote:If Giannis leaves for the Lakers might as well just abolish small market teams. Just have the Lakers, Warriors, Heat etc. duke it out every year

Milwaukee has had Giannis under lock and key for 7 and going on 8 years thanks to CBA favours that hugely benefit small market teams.

Besides, there is zero correlation to large market teams and winning in the NBA - otherwise the Clippers, Knicks and Nets would have long, storied history’s of championships to gloat about.

And no one talked about the Warriors being in an advantageous ‘large market’ when they were on a 30-year run of being the worst franchise in the NBA.

levon · Post #45 » by **levon** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 pm

This isn't going to happen. Isn't the supermax extension deadline way later anyway? I have a hard time believing AD, NBA champion in his prime playing w possibly the GOAT, is structuring his deal to align with Giannis. Similarly, I have a hard time believing Giannis would ever join AD and Lebron. Windhorst is just stirring **** up.

The Lakers FO will obviously try it because you'd be an idiot as a FO not to, just like they tried with Kawhi.

iamworthy · Post #46 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 pm

This is not going to happen.

ThunderBolt · Post #47 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:30 pm

The High Cyde wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
LeBron would be Curry in this situation though

Do people trash Curry for the Durant thing?

Yeah, his comparison doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 comparison; it’d still be lame af if this happened, there’d absolutely be no point in watching the league at that point.

Like Durant, Lebron would get most of the criticism because those are the two working hardest to shape their legacy.

skones · Post #48 » by **skones** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 pm

Somebody should tell AD and Lebron that Cap Holds are a thing.

wfiles · Post #49 » by **wfiles** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

TheGOATWill wrote:I think Windhorst is just yanking your chains.

Are you even a Lakers fan and follow the Lakers? :lol:

Lakers are giving 1 year contracts to everyone except for Harrell, Gasol, KCP.
Harrell and Gasol are 2 year deals and they will opt out next season.
KCP is a three year deal with 3rd year partially guaranteed. They can easily trade him away with a draft pick.

Pablo Escobar · Post #50 » by **Pablo Escobar** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

I'm not sure why this surprises any of you. Lebron was recruiting Kawhi to link up with him and AD. Imagine how cheap that team would be? Lebron doesn't give a F about being overpowered etc. If it helps him win rings it's all good looool

ACMFFL · Post #51 » by **ACMFFL** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

so will AD wait until 12/21 to re-sign with LAL?
I mean: within a week we shouldn't know if Giannis will re-sign with the Bucks or not.

The Master · Post #52 » by **The Master** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:32 pm

LeBron and/or AD would have to take huge paycut, ain't gonna happen.

AD will take 1+1, then he'll opt out and take 1+1 next year, and then he'll sign multiyear 10year vet max in 2022.

Noctilux · Post #53 » by **Noctilux** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

Lakers could win 60 games with only those three on the floor.

LikeABosh · Post #54 » by **LikeABosh** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

The High Cyde wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
LeBron would be Curry in this situation though

Do people trash Curry for the Durant thing?

Yeah, his comparison doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 comparison; it’d still be lame af if this happened, there’d absolutely be no point in watching the league at that point.

For sure, but LeBron getting the target on his back instead of Giannis is what makes no sense. Like zimpy said, it'd be like Curry getting hated on instead of Durant.

But yeah, it would be sad to see

DaddyCool19 · Post #55 » by **DaddyCool19** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
DaddyCool19 wrote:So how much money would each of them have to sacrify, to get them all under the cap? Then there are cap holds and Dengs 5M cap hit.

They would just need to trade KCP (if Harrell and Gasol opt out)

But that's 3 guys taking up the entire cap. Seems impractical. LeBron and AD would probably take a pay cut

why is anyone surprised by this? Lakers have not given anny contracts last 2 years going past 21 (except KCP this year). Harrel and Gasol will opt out unless they get injured. Getting the 3 max players is doable especially if LBJ and AD agree to take a little cut off the top of their salary

Is that really enough? Isn't the empty roster charge like 900k per free spot? Wouldn't that mean the Lakers would be 9M short of using the full Salary Cap? Then you have the 5M cap hit from Dengs stretched contract.

levon · Post #56 » by **levon** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:34 pm

The High Cyde wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
LeBron would be Curry in this situation though

Do people trash Curry for the Durant thing?

Yeah, his comparison doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 comparison; it’d still be lame af if this happened, there’d absolutely be no point in watching the league at that point.

I agree it'd be lame, but that's only because the Lakers proved they can win without him. Front offices are very incentivized to make the lame outcome a reality for their own team. Do you think Kawhi, PG, and the Clippers aren't going to be recruiting Giannis?

ThunderBolt · Post #57 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:35 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
The High Cyde wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
Yeah, his comparison doesn't make sense.

It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 comparison; it’d still be lame af if this happened, there’d absolutely be no point in watching the league at that point.

For sure, but LeBron getting the target on his back instead of Giannis is what makes no sense. Like zimpy said, it'd be like Curry getting hated on instead of Durant.

But yeah, it would be sad to see

I would probably feel equally about all 3 if that makes it better.

wfiles · Post #58 » by **wfiles** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:35 pm

skones wrote:Somebody should tell AD and Lebron that Cap Holds are a thing.

LeBron has an opt out next year. AD can sign a 1 + 1 with opt out next year.
They would both opt out and sign a new contract before signing Giannis. Cap hold doesn't matter. :nod:

wablty · Post #59 » by **wablty** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:35 pm

dacrusha wrote:
Andrew_M08 wrote:If Giannis leaves for the Lakers might as well just abolish small market teams. Just have the Lakers, Warriors, Heat etc. duke it out every year

Milwaukee has had Giannis under lock and key for 7 and going on 8 years thanks to CBA favours that hugely benefit small market teams.

Besides, there is zero correlation to large market teams and winning in the NBA - otherwise the Clippers, Knicks and Nets would have long, storied history’s of championships to gloat about.

And no one talked about the Warriors being in an advantageous ‘large market’ when they were on a 30-year run of being the worst franchise in the NBA.

Nobody talks about bad teams in general. It's not like people forgot there were a lot of people and money around San Francisco.

If you think the California teams and a Utah or Milwaukee are playing under the same rules, you're crazy.

trickshot · Post #60 » by **trickshot** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:36 pm

Like the present Lakers but I like basketball more. All hands on deck to stop this from happening. The KD's Warriors were terrible for hardcore fans and this would be worse. I hope the basketball world spends the next 12 months on Giannis' twitter telling him he'd have it worse than KD

Giannis better not consider it after all that crap about not wanting to play with stars and ruining several all star game selections with it