Boston All-Sports Thread

Post #1181 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:32 pm

Unreal, one final drive fumble from being one game back of the Bills after how awful this season has gone.

Post #1182 » by **K For Three** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:57 pm

lol nobody even talks about the Patriots here anymore.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1183 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:43 am

Kemba For Three wrote:lol nobody even talks about the Patriots here anymore.

Guess it was the Cam stans who turned out to be the "plastic fans". ;-)

Saint Lazarus · Post #1184 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:45 am

Kemba For Three wrote:lol nobody even talks about the Patriots here anymore.

Nothing to talk about once they won those pointless games against the ravens and jets :noway:

Post #1185 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:22 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:lol nobody even talks about the Patriots here anymore.

Guess it was the Cam stans who turned out to be the "plastic fans".

I wish i cared about anything as much as you cared about being half right on this.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1186 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:52 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:lol nobody even talks about the Patriots here anymore.

Guess it was the Cam stans who turned out to be the "plastic fans".

I wish i cared about anything as much as you cared about being half right on this.

Dude, come on. I wouldn't have gone in on you, but when you when in on me, you choose darkness. We are done, but gonna clear the record up first. As with Hayward I wasn't "half-right" and neither were you. You didn't think Hayward could get 3/60, and went at me hard for saying Cam was a washed up slob. Meanwhile, I said Hayward could get $27-30m a year, and that the Pats were a 6-8 win team no matter who was playing QB for them, and that they should just roll over the maximum amount of cap for next year.

No idea where you are getting that this was a draw, but it wasn't. You don't get to equivocate that by trying to paint me as some kind of Stidham stan, which I am clearly not lol. You get to take Ls. That's it, and that's all.

On the bright side, glad I was able to find the one poster here that is more stubborn than me. Well done lmao.

Last word is all yours if you want it. We're still cool, like it or not.

Post #1187 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:32 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Guess it was the Cam stans who turned out to be the "plastic fans".

I wish i cared about anything as much as you cared about being half right on this.

Dude, come on. I wouldn't have gone in on you, but when you when in on me, you choose darkness. We are done, but gonna clear the record up first. As with Hayward I wasn't "half-right" and neither were you. You didn't think Hayward could get 3/60, and went at me hard for saying Cam was a washed up slob. Meanwhile, I said Hayward could get $27-30m a year, and that the Pats were a 6-8 win team no matter who was playing QB for them, and that they should just roll over the maximum amount of cap for next year.

No idea where you are getting that this was a draw, but it wasn't. You don't get to equivocate that by trying to paint me as some kind of Stidham stan, which I am clearly not lol. You get to take Ls. That's it, and that's all.

On the bright side, glad I was able to find the one poster here that is more stubborn than me. Well done lmao.

Last word is all yours if you want it. We're still cool, like it or not.

IMO, if he stays healthy, Cam is probably the 25-30th best QB at best. I think Stidham can do that too

I was dead ass wrong on Hayward.

But if you want to pretend that Stidham is even a top 50 QB in the NFL, I dont know what to tell you. You were right, Cam is a 25-30 QB in the NFL. But Stidham is probably the worst QB to take snaps this year. So yup, he was nothing but a cute PR story from the Patriots like I said.

Keep chirping; like I’ve said: this is just sports and does not matter to me. You continuing to bring things up that I’ve said I was wrong on for months has shown you weight this so disproportionately to me. Im sure youll come up with some defense for Stidham [going 1-15 with him is probably better than 7-9 with Cam], but half of your argument [we should start Stidham! He could be a QB in the 25-30 range and will develop for next year with us] was just a complete flop. You know it too.

I know you’ve offered me the last word but something tells me you’ll still take it. After all, you’ve been taking it for the last month, repeatedly in multiple threads, so its quite clear that telling a random person you’ll never meet ‘you were right’ means way too much in your life.

Saint Lazarus · Post #1188 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:01 pm

I don’t know what’s worse, SWC and Cave arguing about this dumb **** like 2 months later, or the Patriots subreddit telling me that we can still pathetically make the 7 seed and celebrating the Jets losing another game (when they are clearly losing on purpose).

Post #1189 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:11 pm

Saint Lazarus wrote:I don’t know what’s worse, SWC and Cave arguing about this dumb **** like 2 months later, or the Patriots subreddit telling me that we can still pathetically make the 7 seed and celebrating the Jets losing another game (when they are clearly losing on purpose).

7 seed. But our ‘argument’ is way too close.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1190 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:16 pm

At what point do we actually start Stidham?

Post #1191 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:21 pm

Can he play linebacker? Patriots have the worse defense in football right now. The issue is not the QB.

threrf23 · Post #1192 » by **threrf23** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:24 pm

Saint Lazarus wrote:I don’t know what’s worse, SWC and Cave arguing about this dumb **** like 2 months later, or the Patriots subreddit telling me that we can still pathetically make the 7 seed and celebrating the Jets losing another game (when they are clearly losing on purpose).

What's worse is Joe Burrow's injury. 2020 continues.

Post #1193 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:36 pm

Patriots fans caring about the Jets is one of those things that cracks me up. Jets have been relevant for like 3 seasons in my lifetime, and better than the Patriots for like two seasons since 1995. It's like if Celtics fans cared about the Knicks and cheered their every loss.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1194 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:50 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Can he play linebacker? Patriots have the worse defense in football right now. The issue is not the QB.

We have multiple problems, and being one of the worst teams in the league at QB is one of them. Our defense is also unquestionably better than our offense this year.

Post #1195 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:53 pm

You aren't watching the games. The defense is absolutely the biggest issue. They control the game on the ground and score enough to win, but the defense just gives up way too much. It's an average to maybe a little below average offense and the worst overall defense in football. I hardly see what bringing in a non-mobile QB is going to do for a team that has no receiving threats. Newton is completing 68 pct of his passes. If the defense played like last year, they would probably be like a 2-4 seed right now.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1196 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Patriots fans caring about the Jets is one of those things that cracks me up. Jets have been relevant for like 3 seasons in my lifetime, and better than the Patriots for like two seasons since 1995. It's like if Celtics fans cared about the Knicks and cheered their every loss.

Nah, **** those guys. Knicks too.

Post #1197 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:18 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Can he play linebacker? Patriots have the worse defense in football right now. The issue is not the QB.

We have multiple problems, and being one of the worst teams in the league at QB is one of them. Our defense is also unquestionably better than our offense this year.

Im willing to listen to your argument, but most, if not all analytics paint the opposite picture:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2020/week-10-dvoa-ratings

PFF is similar, though has a paywall

Captain_Caveman · Post #1198 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:26 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Can he play linebacker? Patriots have the worse defense in football right now. The issue is not the QB.

We have multiple problems, and being one of the worst teams in the league at QB is one of them. Our defense is also unquestionably better than our offense this year.

Im willing to listen to your argument, but most, if not all analytics paint the opposite picture:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2020/week-10-dvoa-ratings

PFF is similar, though has a paywall

Our offense is 26th in points per game, despite two defensive touchdowns. Defense tied for 13th in points allowed per game.

Post #1199 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:28 pm

Man I can't imagine watching this team every week and coming to the conclusion that the defense isn't the worst in the league. It's the worst linebacking core they've had in my entire lifetime, probably the worst in the league. D-Line is completely awful, gets no rush. At least the offense can run the ball and not turn it over all game long. Defense can't do jack ****. The secondary is very good but it doesn't even matter.

Post #1200 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:30 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
We have multiple problems, and being one of the worst teams in the league at QB is one of them. Our defense is also unquestionably better than our offense this year.

Im willing to listen to your argument, but most, if not all analytics paint the opposite picture:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2020/week-10-dvoa-ratings

PFF is similar, though has a paywall

Our offense is 26th in points per game, despite two defensive touchdowns. Defense tied for 13th in points allowed per game.

Our offense **** blows. Our defense has been worse, only benefitting PPG wise cuz we muck up and slow down the pace of games. We suck at getting stops /punts.