Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions

machu46 · Post #1041 » by **machu46** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:18 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
mke_design wrote:we're all over here over analyzing every single detail of words said by Giannis and actions committed by the front office. Meanwhile, Giannis is just chillin and playing basketball in Greece. Why do I feel like those roles should be reversed?

I dont see how it would help if all of us were over in Greece playing basketball and Giannis was analyzing every single detail of what he has said and the actions of the front office.

I feel like I'd at least be a lot happier.

higharc · Post #1042 » by **higharc** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:19 pm

humanrefutation wrote:I don't think Giannis and LeBron really get along, so I don't think he'd go to the Lakers. Maybe the Clippers if Kawhi dumps PG for him, but I doubt it.

Well, there's a thought. Giannis to the Clippers taking Jrue with him...

Jrue - Kawhi - Giannis defensive lineup would be crazy. Like all-time crazy...

mke_design · Post #1043 » by **mke_design** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:21 pm

machu46 wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:
mke_design wrote:we're all over here over analyzing every single detail of words said by Giannis and actions committed by the front office. Meanwhile, Giannis is just chillin and playing basketball in Greece. Why do I feel like those roles should be reversed?

I dont see how it would help if all of us were over in Greece playing basketball and Giannis was analyzing every single detail of what he has said and the actions of the front office.

I feel like I'd at least be a lot happier.

Exactly lol - its his job to care, but we're die hards.

Gianstoppable · Post #1044 » by **Gianstoppable** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:21 pm

higharc wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I don't think Giannis and LeBron really get along, so I don't think he'd go to the Lakers. Maybe the Clippers if Kawhi dumps PG for him, but I doubt it.

Well, there's a thought. Giannis to the Clippers taking Jrue with him...

Jrue - Kawhi - Giannis defensive lineup would be crazy. Like all-time crazy...

Would be easier to just have Kawhi come here after we unload some salary :wink:

higharc · Post #1045 » by **higharc** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:23 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
higharc wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I don't think Giannis and LeBron really get along, so I don't think he'd go to the Lakers. Maybe the Clippers if Kawhi dumps PG for him, but I doubt it.

Well, there's a thought. Giannis to the Clippers taking Jrue with him...

Jrue - Kawhi - Giannis defensive lineup would be crazy. Like all-time crazy...

Would be easier to just have Kawhi come here after we unload some salary

Khris + fillers :lol:

ABucksFan · Post #1046 » by **ABucksFan** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:26 pm

Giannis shot looking interesting. I'm excited.

machu46 · Post #1047 » by **machu46** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:31 pm

I'm not going to say he's a good shooter now off a workout video like 76ers fans have done with Simmons the last few years, but in the very least it seems like he's a lot more comfortable transitioning into his shot and that would be very helpful even if his %'s don't improve.

Post #1048 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:47 pm

We've been through this with him for a few years now - tantalizing offseason clips of him hitting shot after shot - only for it to disappear when he needs it most.

I'll wait until he's actually hitting them in big games before I think anything's changed.

mke_design · Post #1049 » by **mke_design** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:49 pm

humanrefutation wrote:We've been through this with him for a few years now - tantalizing offseason clips of him hitting shot after shot - only for it to disappear when he needs it most.

I'll wait until he's actually hitting them in big games before I think anything's changed.

The problem is he is still starting way too low on his shot - if he keeps doing that in the post in the playoffs expect turnovers and non calls.

RogerMurdock · Post #1050 » by **RogerMurdock** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:50 pm

I'm not going to put much stock in his shooting form until he can consistently make shots over a chair.

greekbuck34 · Post #1051 » by **greekbuck34** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:00 pm

As long as his FT improve I don't worry about his long range. Even with his semi broken form last season he was able to make one 3 per game and he never lacked confidence like in the J.Kidd years. He will never be and he should never try to be a high volume 3p shooter. Look at Embiid...

4-6 3ps and a few midrange shots are enough per game. The wall will never go away because of his shot even if he starts shooting at high thirties percent.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #1052 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:09 pm

I want clips of him hitting free throw after free throw - I don't think he needs to become a strong 3 point shooter.

TroyD92 · Post #1053 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:10 pm

Feel like Giannis really needs to show some major IQ and feel adjustments. Kinda tired of hearing about his 3point shot at this point. Hope he developed go to moves that can actually be used in the playoffs. Teams are going to let him shoot 3's until he proves he can hit at a 40%+ rate

Cooleyo47 · Post #1054 » by **Cooleyo47** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:12 pm

emunney wrote:He's going to resign but it's going to be extraordinarily difficult to be competitive the *next* time he hits FA.

As someone who would be very upset if he left now, I would have zero hard feelings if Giannis gave us 5-6 more years and decided to finish his career elsewhere.

Cooleyo47 · Post #1055 » by **Cooleyo47** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:15 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:As long as his FT improve I don't worry about his long range. Even with his semi broken form last season he was able to make one 3 per game and he never lacked confidence like in the J.Kidd years. He will never be and he should never try to be a high volume 3p shooter. Look at Embiid...

... The wall will never go away because of his shot even if he starts shooting at high thirties percent.

Correct. It’s all about the FTs, always has been.

greekbuck34 · Post #1056 » by **greekbuck34** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:26 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Feel like Giannis really needs to show some major IQ and feel adjustments. Kinda tired of hearing about his 3point shot at this point. Hope he developed go to moves that can actually be used in the playoffs. Teams are going to let him shoot 3's until he proves he can hit at a 40%+ rate

They are not many go to moves when you have 3 great defenders in front of you other than shoot it yourself or passing it up.

Remember when he was breaking out as a Point Forward in the J.Kidd years averaging like a triple double for months?
He is amazing when he is being allowed to drive either way. Great passes (without swag/flair ofc) and smart plays.

Watch on YouTube

He just stuck in front of an elite 3 man wall for two seasons and it got to his head.
This kind of defense is unprecedented and it's the result of a b2b MVP dominant player and the lack of shooting on both his part and most of his teammates.

Chad34 · Post #1057 » by **Chad34** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:51 pm

Read on Twitter

yannisk · Post #1058 » by **yannisk** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:05 pm

Chad34 wrote:

Read on Twitter

he did not miss a shot, championship guaranteed

talbert · Post #1059 » by **talbert** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:07 pm

Spoiler:

His shot changed again. But it actually looks more like his natural shot from when he was a rookie. I can get behind this.

Yeah there's less chicken wing. Elbow is more under the ball.

GBBucks · Post #1060 » by **GBBucks** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 pm

mke_design wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:We've been through this with him for a few years now - tantalizing offseason clips of him hitting shot after shot - only for it to disappear when he needs it most.

I'll wait until he's actually hitting them in big games before I think anything's changed.

The problem is he is still starting way too low on his shot - if he keeps doing that in the post in the playoffs expect turnovers and non calls.

This. Having a low starting point requires too much movement that introduces inconsistencies in shoulder, elbow, hand, finger, etc positioning right before release.

Thought about on the extreme, you could be more consistent in your golf swing if you just started from the top of your backswing.