Jordan McLaughlin RFA Status

[Jedzz]

I’m thinking the Wolves have done a nice job jacking up Balls value ... the more this thought process is accepted, the better our trade value. I think the Wolves have the media selling the #1

My favorite part was when Rosas mind-controlled most of the other GM’s to say they would take Ball #1 when they really wouldn’t, and then got ESPN, The Athletic, and Locked On, to help him with his conspiracy..

My favorite part was watching a bunch of Wolves fans swoon over Dunn, Culver choices...BPA! And now falling for Ball. No green text needed. No overtly passive aggressive posts directed at anyone else. Quoting you directly to respond directly to you bub.

[Jedzz]

My favorite part was when Rosas mind-controlled most of the other GM’s to say they would take Ball #1 when they really wouldn’t, and then got ESPN, The Athletic, and Locked On, to help him with his conspiracy..

You’d have to be pretty naive to believe the GM’s would tell ya much of anything ... Oh wait, ESPN, the Athketic, and Locked On maybe sent them all a link to “survey monkey” to fill out a poll on who should go #1

Don’t take mind control For Rosas when he said, “well, most GM’s will tell you Ball is probably their #1 guy” ... then guess what ... ESPN, The Athletic, Licked on reported most GM’s would take Ball #1. Hmmm, maybe he does have mind-control

I think you are naive to reject evidence that doesn’t fit your emotional, amateur evaluation of Ball.

evidence You forot the green this time. fixed.

[Jedzz]

Tell me any reason why a team like the Clippers would lie and say they like Ball at #1?

What do the Clippers have to do with this now?

Hmm let's see. What could we not know? Maybe the Clippers know that Boston plans to use three FRPs to slide up and Boston has promised them a player in trade if they are able to attain a certain player in the draft. That certain player must drop out of the top 5 or more for Boston to have a chance at them. All of a sudden, Clippers have a reason to help propel the hype of others they aren't interested in.

Scenario possible to you? NEVER!

[Jedzz]

And for the record, I am not a big LaMelo Ball fan.

However, that does not mean I am going to accuse all of the professionals that say they like him of lying.

"professionals" the green thing missed again

I think you have been sold completely on Ball by the professional hype pushers.

But I think you are a bigger fan of Givony. Haven't seen you this fired up since people suggested the team could trade for Dlo.

[Biff Cooper]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

[SO_MONEY]

He can only get a minimum contact, so of course I am down with that.

[SO_MONEY]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

Not what you think it means. Given he only had 1 year of service the 50k guarantee was the only QO they could extend. If he had two years of service the QO would be the minimum.

[Jedzz]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

phking two way. he should tell them to go fly a kite

This is no two way garbage player with those kinds of skills. What a junk ass league. Someone should start a new one.

[Jedzz]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

Not what you think it means. Given he only had 1 year of service the 50k guarantee was the only QO they could extend. If he had two years of service the QO would be the minimum.

They could have offered him a league min deal and not this QO if they had any intention of using him. But they don't, they have 10 guards now.

People need to get their heads out of the ass. We all love Ricky Rubio being back, but Ricky is a 10-13ppg and 5-10 assist player starting with over 30 minutes. He's not nearly as explosive, Rubio just has leadership and experience as a different kind of player.

Jmac as a rookie with 30 minutes or starting is a 15-24 ppg players with 8 to 11 assists. He was adding 16-18pts and 5 assists with 25 minutes off bench. He simply has that many skills and these are his first year playing capabilities shown. Not many rookies can ever show that kind of offense leadership and creation for himself and others. If he would have had even 10-15 more starts there would have been 30pt games mixed in there and then people couldn't keep their eyes shut on him. They shouldn't be shut now.

[old school 34]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

Not what you think it means. Given he only had 1 year of service the 50k guarantee was the only QO they could extend. If he had two years of service the QO would be the minimum.

They could have offered him a league min deal and not this QO if they had any intention of using him. But they don't, they have 13 guards now.

People need to get their heads out of the ass. We all love Ricky Rubio being back, but Ricky is a 10-13ppg and 5-10 assist player starting with over 30 minutes. He's not nearly as explosive, Rubio just has leadership and experience as a different kind of player.

Jmac as a rookie with 30 minutes or starting is a 15-24 ppg players with 8 to 11 assists. He was adding 16-18pts and 5 assists with 25 minutes off bench. He simply has that many skills and these are his first year playing capabilities shown. Not many rookies can ever show that kind of offense leadership and creation for himself and others. If he would have had even 10-15 more starts there would have been 30pt games mixed in there and then people couldn't keep their eyes shut on him. They shouldn't be shut now.

Yeah...this is getting twisted. The QO as a 2 way is just to keep him an rfa & no cap hold on our actual salary cap for max flexibility. I assume & everything I've seen...if coming back it will be a regular contract....no 2 way....which I definitely would like to see. If your going to be a serious playoff contender...it starts nowadays in my mind...you need 3 legit rotation caliber pg's.

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[SO_MONEY]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/202021-nba-two-way-contract-tracker.html

I missed if someone already posted this, but if this website is to be believed, the Wolves are trying to re-sign McLaughlin to a 2-way deal rather than a regular deal.

Not what you think it means. Given he only had 1 year of service the 50k guarantee was the only QO they could extend. If he had two years of service the QO would be the minimum.

They could have offered him a league min deal and not this QO if they had any intention of using him. But they don't, they have 10 guards now.

People need to get their heads out of the ass. We all love Ricky Rubio being back, but Ricky is a 10-13ppg and 5-10 assist player starting with over 30 minutes. He's not nearly as explosive, Rubio just has leadership and experience as a different kind of player.

Jmac as a rookie with 30 minutes or starting is a 15-24 ppg players with 8 to 11 assists. He was adding 16-18pts and 5 assists with 25 minutes off bench. He simply has that many skills and these are his first year playing capabilities shown. Not many rookies can ever show that kind of offense leadership and creation for himself and others. If he would have had even 10-15 more starts there would have been 30pt games mixed in there and then people couldn't keep their eyes shut on him. They shouldn't be shut now.

They offered the only QO they could, they can either offer a two-way deal or a minimum contact as a result of the QO. They will sign him to a minimum contact. I don't know for how long 2 or 3 years but it will get done, it was never in question.

[Jedzz]

Not what you think it means. Given he only had 1 year of service the 50k guarantee was the only QO they could extend. If he had two years of service the QO would be the minimum.

They could have offered him a league min deal and not this QO if they had any intention of using him. But they don't, they have 10 guards now.

People need to get their heads out of the ass. We all love Ricky Rubio being back, but Ricky is a 10-13ppg and 5-10 assist player starting with over 30 minutes. He's not nearly as explosive, Rubio just has leadership and experience as a different kind of player.

Jmac as a rookie with 30 minutes or starting is a 15-24 ppg players with 8 to 11 assists. He was adding 16-18pts and 5 assists with 25 minutes off bench. He simply has that many skills and these are his first year playing capabilities shown. Not many rookies can ever show that kind of offense leadership and creation for himself and others. If he would have had even 10-15 more starts there would have been 30pt games mixed in there and then people couldn't keep their eyes shut on him. They shouldn't be shut now.

They offer the only QO they could, they can either offer a two-way deal or a minimum contact. They will sign him to a minimum contact. I don't know for how long 2 or 3 years but it will get done, it was never in question.

Thanks for detailing that however I'm saying he probably shouldn't sign it anymore. They could have offerend him a very small but real deal already that at least recognizes what he showed last season and that they have any intention of fitting him in here, but they haven't. They are treating him like a junk player at the bottom of the pecking order and he should walk and hope to catch on some where that he might find even low minutes verses being parked in case of injuries here. Someone like Culver doesn't have half of the offensive skills at his disposal that JMac wields at a pro level already. One day maybe the team finds a GM that pushes all the bs aside and let's the cream rise right away. This is no Riley, Elisburg, Spoelstra crew. That much is clear now.

[SO_MONEY]

They could have offered him a league min deal and not this QO if they had any intention of using him. But they don't, they have 10 guards now.

People need to get their heads out of the ass. We all love Ricky Rubio being back, but Ricky is a 10-13ppg and 5-10 assist player starting with over 30 minutes. He's not nearly as explosive, Rubio just has leadership and experience as a different kind of player.

Jmac as a rookie with 30 minutes or starting is a 15-24 ppg players with 8 to 11 assists. He was adding 16-18pts and 5 assists with 25 minutes off bench. He simply has that many skills and these are his first year playing capabilities shown. Not many rookies can ever show that kind of offense leadership and creation for himself and others. If he would have had even 10-15 more starts there would have been 30pt games mixed in there and then people couldn't keep their eyes shut on him. They shouldn't be shut now.

They offer the only QO they could, they can either offer a two-way deal or a minimum contact. They will sign him to a minimum contact. I don't know for how long 2 or 3 years but it will get done, it was never in question.

Thanks for detailing that however I'm saying he probably shouldn't sign it anymore. They could have offerend him a very small but real deal already that at least recognizes what he showed last season and that they have any intention of fitting him in here, but they haven't. They are treating him like a junk player at the bottom of the pecking order and he should walk and hope to catch on some where that he might find even low minutes verses being parked in case of injuries here. Someone like Culver doesn't have half of the offensive skills at his disposal that JMac wields at a pro level already. One day maybe the team finds a GM that pushes all the bs aside and let's the cream rise right away. This is no Riley, Elisburg, Spoelstra crew. That much is clear now.

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot, they tried to buyout Turner? at the end of the season with no dice, granted they probably didn't want to burn a year of control either. Since that didn't work out we had to offer the QO, he is not going to play on a 50k guarantee, he can't just walk, playing for the 50k is lunacy. He will sign a minimum deal for probably two years so he gets his bird rights, but it wouldn't surprise me if we want it to be 3 years. He will sign a contract this is not in question.

[Jedzz]

Yeah...this is getting twisted. The QO as a 2 way is just to keep him an rfa & no cap hold on our actual salary cap for max flexibility. I assume & everything I've seen...if coming back it will be a regular contract....no 2 way....which I definitely would like to see. If your going to be a serious playoff contender...it starts nowadays in my mind...you need 3 legit rotation caliber pg's.

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I agree with what you are describing but it is twisted. As an RFA these days teams rarely bother to look at them as options until after most of their rosters are set. Teams can't afford to sit and wait for the home team to match or not and watch others slip away. Mostly only the well known FAs might have a team trying early. It's quite the nasty thing to do to him if they weren't going to take his play shown last year seriously and really see him helping this roster for more than an injury fill in.

What really bothers me is that more people don't care or see a problem with it. A couple of you do see it. Many just play it off saying his defense is too limited due to size for them to care. But then we have the team paying many orders of magnitude higher for a starting Dlo that has defensive issues. They can do that because that can be covered by other players. And likewise the backup PG can be covered the same way and it could have came at peanuts even at a real deal. Portland is a team paying premium dollars for a tiny leading PG to start there and everyone can check the numbers - these players aren't that different aside from one just starting out and the other being at the top of his experience and playing career. They chose to bring in Rubio which is fine, but at that point at least they should have talked to Jmac and let him know he's free to sign elsewhere unrestricted.

[Jedzz]

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot, they tried to buyout Turner? at the end of the season with no dice, granted they probably didn't want to burn a year of control either. Since that didn't work out we had to offer the QO, he is not going to play on a 50k guarantee, he can't just walk, playing for the 50k is lunacy. He will sign a minimum deal for probably two years so he gets his bird rights, but it wouldn't surprise me if we want it to be 3 years. He will sign a contract this is not in question.

I absolutely do. You don't understand the importance I'm attributing to this player. You are talking about waiting to sign and fit him in last in their plans. I understand what you are outlining. I am suggesting they could have signed him earlier than the Rubio decision and others. That isn't the direction they went, they saved him for one of the last spots if at all and then your thinking about this fits. Does that help you understand the difference I'm speaking about?

I'm also saying he shouldn't sign, to hell with his bird rights. The team has forced him now into this situation. If no one ever gets injured and he gets buried all season his entire career could be over and forgotten here this year or the next. You know full well the deals at this level and they will be extended control option years and they can just dump him quietly whenever. They could sign him and at this level buy it out three weeks later and not care if something else comes up.

Tyus walked and JMac is significantly better and should also walk. Sadly, a number of people don't appear to be pushing his name like Tyus had when Tyus' one claim to fame, a stat of assists to turnover ratio or something having him listed at the top of the league was being written about all over.

[SO_MONEY]

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot, they tried to buyout Turner? at the end of the season with no dice, granted they probably didn't want to burn a year of control either. Since that didn't work out we had to offer the QO, he is not going to play on a 50k guarantee, he can't just walk, playing for the 50k is lunacy. He will sign a minimum deal for probably two years so he gets his bird rights, but it wouldn't surprise me if we want it to be 3 years. He will sign a contract this is not in question.

I absolutely do. You don't understand the importance I'm attributing to this player. You are talking about waiting to sign and fit him in last in their plans. I understand what you are outlining. I am suggesting they could have signed him earlier than the Rubio decision and others. That isn't the direction they went, they saved him for one of the last spots if at all and then your thinking about this fits. Does that help you understand the difference I'm speaking about?

I'm also saying he shouldn't sign, to hell with his bird rights. The team has forced him now into this situation. If no one ever gets injured and he gets buried all season his entire career could be over and forgotten here this year or the next. You know full well the deals at this level and they will be extended control option years and they can just dump him quietly whenever. They could sign him and at this level buy it out three weeks later and not care if something else comes up.

Tyus walked and JMac is significantly better and should also walk.

HE CAN'T WALK!!! You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. He is not going to play for the 50k, he isn;t stupid. He also has not been treated poorly he was always going to be our last signing for many reasons I am not going to bother explaining because I suspect I would be wasting my time. So much wrong with your post.

[Jedzz]

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot, they tried to buyout Turner? at the end of the season with no dice, granted they probably didn't want to burn a year of control either. Since that didn't work out we had to offer the QO, he is not going to play on a 50k guarantee, he can't just walk, playing for the 50k is lunacy. He will sign a minimum deal for probably two years so he gets his bird rights, but it wouldn't surprise me if we want it to be 3 years. He will sign a contract this is not in question.

I absolutely do. You don't understand the importance I'm attributing to this player. You are talking about waiting to sign and fit him in last in their plans. I understand what you are outlining. I am suggesting they could have signed him earlier than the Rubio decision and others. That isn't the direction they went, they saved him for one of the last spots if at all and then your thinking about this fits. Does that help you understand the difference I'm speaking about?

I'm also saying he shouldn't sign, to hell with his bird rights. The team has forced him now into this situation. If no one ever gets injured and he gets buried all season his entire career could be over and forgotten here this year or the next. You know full well the deals at this level and they will be extended control option years and they can just dump him quietly whenever. They could sign him and at this level buy it out three weeks later and not care if something else comes up.

Tyus walked and JMac is significantly better and should also walk.

HE CAN'T WALK!!! You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. He is not going to play for the 50k, he isn;t stupid. He also has not been treated poorly he was always going to be our last signing for many reasons I am not going to bother explaining because I suspect I would be wasting my time.

Explain your "many reasons' for him always being our last signing. This is all nothing but your opinion and the entire basis for your disagreeing with me, these aren't facts. Hollinger is quoted at the top of this thread descibing a player that should be Dlo's backup, not third string like many of you here believe. I'm not the only one who notices what he actually is.

This played out exactly as I described it would if they added another PG through draft or FA and they added Rubio. They had an entirely different option here to focus pick and fa assets elsewhere. They chose not to and that should signal the exit.

[SO_MONEY]

I absolutely do. You don't understand the importance I'm attributing to this player. You are talking about waiting to sign and fit him in last in their plans. I understand what you are outlining. I am suggesting they could have signed him earlier than the Rubio decision and others. That isn't the direction they went, they saved him for one of the last spots if at all and then your thinking about this fits. Does that help you understand the difference I'm speaking about?

I'm also saying he shouldn't sign, to hell with his bird rights. The team has forced him now into this situation. If no one ever gets injured and he gets buried all season his entire career could be over and forgotten here this year or the next. You know full well the deals at this level and they will be extended control option years and they can just dump him quietly whenever. They could sign him and at this level buy it out three weeks later and not care if something else comes up.

Tyus walked and JMac is significantly better and should also walk.

HE CAN'T WALK!!! You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. He is not going to play for the 50k, he isn;t stupid. He also has not been treated poorly he was always going to be our last signing for many reasons I am not going to bother explaining because I suspect I would be wasting my time.

Explain your "many reasons' for him always being our last signing. This is all nothing but your opinion and the entire basis for your disagreeing with me, these aren't facts. Hollinger is quoted at the top of this thread descibing a player that should be Dlo's backup, not third string like many of you here believe. I'm not the only one who notices what he actually is.

This played out exactly as I described it would if they added another PG through draft or FA and they added Rubio. They had an entirely different option here to focus pick and fa assets elsewhere. They chose not to and that should signal the exit.

No. I am not wasting my time. Good night.

[Jedzz]

This is the problematic end of the NBA system that the players union should address. These players are the slaves of the league being used repeatedly and then discarded by people making amazing amounts of dollars and blowing amazing amounts of dollars on other junk players. The Two way system is fine for adding access for players and teams from the Gleague. But it shouldn't be carried forward once staying and these tiny junk QO's, all of it, are a mess. The restricted free agency status should not even apply for amounts this low. If they want to keep him and his skills, treat him like you would any other drafted player. If you don't, he should be free to sign anywhere immediately in FA.

[Jedzz]

HE CAN'T WALK!!! You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. He is not going to play for the 50k, he isn;t stupid. He also has not been treated poorly he was always going to be our last signing for many reasons I am not going to bother explaining because I suspect I would be wasting my time.

Explain your "many reasons' for him always being our last signing. This is all nothing but your opinion and the entire basis for your disagreeing with me, these aren't facts. Hollinger is quoted at the top of this thread descibing a player that should be Dlo's backup, not third string like many of you here believe. I'm not the only one who notices what he actually is.

This played out exactly as I described it would if they added another PG through draft or FA and they added Rubio. They had an entirely different option here to focus pick and fa assets elsewhere. They chose not to and that should signal the exit.

No. I am not wasting my time. Good night.

That's right, because you have nothing but your opinion and you cannot argue your claim further even one bit.