Jordan McLaughlin RFA Status

[Jedzz]

2019 NBA rookies

3pt%
33 rookies took at least 75 3pt shots. Of that list, only 4 players had a better 3pt% than JMac.
#1 Matt Thomas(47.5%)
#2 Cameron Johnson(39.0%)
#3 Terence Davis(38.8%)
#4 Tyler Hero(38.9%)
#5 Jordan McLaughlin Jmac(38.2%)

Other players:
Culver(29.9%), Barret(32.0%), Reddish(33.0%), Naz Reid (33.0%). Ja Morant(33.5%), Kevin Porter(33.5%), Colby White(35.4%), K. Nunn (35.5%), Hunter(35.5%), Garland(35.5%), PJ Washington(37.4%), et al all lower.


FG%
37 rookies took at least 150 FG attempts. Of that list, only 6 players had a better FG% than JMac.
#1 Hayes-C-(67.2%)
#2 Brandon Clarke PF(61.8%)
#3 Zion Williamson-F/PF-(58.3%)
#4 Fernando-C-(51.8%)
#5 M. Porter-F-PF-(50.9%)
#6 Eric Paschall-PF-(49.7%)
#7 Jordan McLaughlin(JMac)-PG-(48.9%)

Only C and PF above him.

Other players:
Thomas-SG-(48.7%), Morant-PG-(47.7%), Nunn-PG-(43.9%), Herro-SG-(42.8%), Hunter-SF-(41.0%), Culver-SG-(40.4%), Garland-PG-(40.1%), White-PG-(39.4%), Reddish-SF-(38.4%), et al all lower.



Assists per game
Only one player has more assists per game (all rookies):
#1 Ja Morant (7.3) [31 minutes per game avg]
#2 Jordan McLaughlin(JMac) (4.2) [5 games above 27mins for 7,9,7,10,11 assists]

Other names:
Garland (3.9), Nunn (3.3), Bowman (2.9), White (2.7), Barrett (2.6), Herro (2.2), Culver (1.7)



FT%
This is the one area JMac struggled with (all rookies):
#1 Tremont Waters (100% 8-8)
#14 Kelan Martin (96.8% 30-31)
#15 Jaylen Nowell (94.1% 16-17)
#19 Darius Garland (87.5% 63-72)
#21 Tyler Herro (87.0% 87-100)
#24 Kendrick Nunn (85.0% 85-100)
#42 Coby White (79.1% 102-129)
#45 Ja Morant (77.6% 239-308)
#53 Matt Thomas (75.0% 9-12)
#61 Naz Reid (69.8% 37-53)
#68 JMac (66.7% 26-39)
#72 P.J. Washington (64.7% 88-136)
#98 Jarrett Culver (46.2% 54-117)
#101 Tacko Fall (33.3% 1-3)


Aside from FT% no rookie point guards are this productive.

[TheZachAttack]

Hoping they bring back Jmac. Jedz FT post highlights some concern about the sustainability of the percentages that he shot at last season, but based off of his play he deserves another shot. The Wolves need a 3rd PG and I think there's room because there will be a lot of Rubio/D Lo lineups.

[SO_MONEY]

Explain your "many reasons' for him always being our last signing. This is all nothing but your opinion and the entire basis for your disagreeing with me, these aren't facts. Hollinger is quoted at the top of this thread descibing a player that should be Dlo's backup, not third string like many of you here believe. I'm not the only one who notices what he actually is.

This played out exactly as I described it would if they added another PG through draft or FA and they added Rubio. They had an entirely different option here to focus pick and fa assets elsewhere. They chose not to and that should signal the exit.

No. I am not wasting my time. Good night.

That's right, because you have nothing but your opinion and you cannot argue your claim further even one bit.

Since you wish to advertise your ignorance the one and the ONLY reason you need to know that JMac would be the last signing is if we played things out, and still may if there is a trade, where we were right up against the LUX we could sign JMac to a two-way deal then convert it to an NBA deal and his contact wouldn't push us into the tax as it wouldn't be counted against the cap figure. These are the facts and not my opinion. Now please just drop your misguided ravings. Thanks in advance.

[Dewey]

Gotta have a 3rd PG ... cannot be vulnerable to injury at that position specifically and McL can fill that spot. he has a year under his belt, always ready, good shot selection, scrappy, and really improved his grasp of the offense througout the season. I know Peterson was always comment on his ability to play within himself and the potential to stick around in the league. Maybe there are other options out there, but for the $$, I gotta think McL is a pretty good fit to return.

[minimus]

We need this triple-headed PG monster!!!

[minimus]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2919554-updated-rankings-for-top-available-2020-nba-free-agents

Glad Jmac is not listed in this list, but he is definitely is a top5 available free-agent.

[DaMplsKid]

Gotta have a 3rd PG ... cannot be vulnerable to injury at that position specifically and McL can fill that spot. he has a year under his belt, always ready, good shot selection, scrappy, and really improved his grasp of the offense througout the season. I know Peterson was always comment on his ability to play within himself and the potential to stick around in the league. Maybe there are other options out there, but for the $$, I gotta think McL is a pretty good fit to return.

I agree a quality 3rd PG is very important. This position is so important to the offense.

[Jedzz]

Since you wish to advertise your ignorance the one and the ONLY reason you need to know that JMac would be the last signing is if we played things out, and still may if there is a trade, where we were right up against the LUX we could sign JMac to a two-way deal then convert it to an NBA deal and his contact wouldn't push us into the tax as it wouldn't be counted against the cap figure. These are the facts and not my opinion. Now please just drop your misguided ravings. Thanks in advance.

All your posts and claims of factual realities are false. They all stem from you believing he should be the last priority and last man signed because they can use his RFA status against him, how he entered the league, and the underwhelming support/belief for shorter players. At any time they could have offered him a real deal. What you believe to be the perfect timing to slip him in does not make any of your absolutist prior claims true, nor do they give you the right to be such a vile poster.

They offered the only QO they could, they can either offer a two-way deal or a minimum contact as a result of the QO.

This is meaningless to the discussion.

I don't think you understand what you are talking about.They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot

Sure they did have roster spots. Again, this is you believing he should be the last priority figured out and that they should take a player like this into RFA. I did not have to go down this way. You just believe it's ok for them to do it this way to him. They could have offered him a real deal anytime and avoided this.

You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. ...So much wrong with your post.

I don't know where you think you have earned the right to talk to people this way. You slip in little statements such as in the second quote listed here into this disagreement "as a result of the QO" and you know full well I've been stating they could have actually signed him instead of playing this rfa game. You believing they should leverage this againstt him does not make any of your claimed "facts" the only way and none of it excuses your nasty tone.

[Jedzz]

Hoping they bring back Jmac. Jedz FT post highlights some concern about the sustainability of the percentages that he shot at last season, but based off of his play he deserves another shot. The Wolves need a 3rd PG and I think there's room because there will be a lot of Rubio/D Lo lineups.

I believe this is one of the rare cases where FT% likely doesn't say much about the sustainibility of the other shooting percentages. It appears to have always been one of his weaker numbers. He was a good college 3pt shooter (3 season high avg of .424,.402,.397) and FG shooter and finisher at the rim. There is a reason only Centers and PF are ahead of him in FG%. Because they typically have much higher rim % finishing. But JMac is just that great at finishing at the rim himself in just about any way you can think of.

In multiple college seasons his FT% in college averaged to 73.8% which isn't high, but is not horrible. As a freshman in college it was low .652 and one of the seasons got up to .798. I believe the FT line is the one moment and place on the court where he felt the pressure of the NBA level upon him as a rookie. I would expect him to get back above .700 but it's possible this is just never going to be he greatest strength and maybe never gets into mid 80s.

The interesting part is that at every level his first year are his lowest numbers almost across the board and then they all go up higher. Which is normal for most players. His rookie numbers just weren't normal or average, certainly not from an undrafted type. Not even compared to the most hyped/drafted players last year.

[SO_MONEY]

Since you wish to advertise your ignorance the one and the ONLY reason you need to know that JMac would be the last signing is if we played things out, and still may if there is a trade, where we were right up against the LUX we could sign JMac to a two-way deal then convert it to an NBA deal and his contact wouldn't push us into the tax as it wouldn't be counted against the cap figure. These are the facts and not my opinion. Now please just drop your misguided ravings. Thanks in advance.

All your posts and claims of factual realities are false. They all stem from you believing he should be the last priority and last man signed because they can use his RFA status against him, how he entered the league, and the underwhelming support/belief for shorter players. At any time they could have offered him a real deal. What you believe to be the perfect timing to slip him in does not make any of your absolutist prior claims true, nor do they give you the right to be such a vile poster.

They offered the only QO they could, they can either offer a two-way deal or a minimum contact as a result of the QO.

This is meaningless to the discussion.

I don't think you understand what you are talking about.They couldn't offer him a contract officially, as they didn't have a roster spot

Sure they did have roster spots. Again, this is you believing he should be the last priority figured out and that they should take a player like this into RFA. I did not have to go down this way. You just believe it's ok for them to do it this way to him. They could have offered him a real deal anytime and avoided this.

You do not understand. He can only get a minimum contract in FA which MN would match. ...So much wrong with your post.

I don't know where you think you have earned the right to talk to people this way. You slip in little statements such as in the second quote listed here into this disagreement "as a result of the QO" and you know full well I've been stating they could have actually signed him instead of playing this rfa game. You believing they should leverage this againstt him does not make any of your claimed "facts" the only way and none of it excuses your nasty tone.

You are hopelessly stuck in a reality that ignores facts and projects on others your own sentiments, feelings or opinions as truth. I wish you luck in that. For clarity I offered facts to back my claim and you have conveniently ignored them, likely intentionally, because it conflicts with your world view...they call that cognitive dissonance. I hope you can break out of that. I am going to set an example of time management for the rest of the board and not respond to you any further. You can continue to do whatever it is you are doing I am going to make a sandwich.

[UnFadeable21]

He’s tiny at 5’11 but he showed he can play some. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be stuck as a 3rd emergency PG.

[Jedzz]

You are hopelessly stuck in a reality that ignores facts and projects on others your own sentiments, feelings or opinions as truth. I wish you luck in that. For clarity I offered facts to back my claim

Interesting you put it this way. Could you see how it may actually be you projecting your own sentiments, feelings or opinions as "facts".

I believe my opinions are more closely based on truth because for one, they are at least backed by the fact they had other options, something you claim they don't have and the only disagreement we seem to be arguing here. I don't see how or why you would take this down an ugly direction but you have, because well, this is you being you.

My other suppporting factor for getting near truth is the numbers saying who this player is inspite of feelings by others. Apparently you don't agree with me about how good the player is, but this is not what you have tried to argue against. Probably because you know the numbers agree with me. Instead, you have chosen to latch yourself to a claim that they only had one way to sign this player and repeatedly told me it is a fact. Which, again, is no fact at all. You believe it's the only way because you believe the player should have been addressed last of all. Seek help, it's available, or carry on being you.

[Jedzz]

He’s tiny at 5’11 but he showed he can play some. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be stuck as a 3rd emergency PG.

Sure he's small. Can you name the Boston Celtics starting PG ? Is Portlands superstar PG 6'2 when he lets his hair grow? These are starters making megabucks. There are plenty of rotational PGs of his size already proving they can hold the fort for backup roles. The thing is, this guy's numbers are better than most of them and better than many of the good taller players of the position. He's beating Ja Morant by many numbers so far. Which then should point out the mistake of underestimating, undervaluing, and underutlizing him.

[TheZachAttack]

Hoping they bring back Jmac. Jedz FT post highlights some concern about the sustainability of the percentages that he shot at last season, but based off of his play he deserves another shot. The Wolves need a 3rd PG and I think there's room because there will be a lot of Rubio/D Lo lineups.

I believe this is one of the rare cases where FT% likely doesn't say much about the sustainibility of the other shooting percentages. It appears to have always been one of his weaker numbers. He was a good college 3pt shooter (3 season high avg of .424,.402,.397) and FG shooter and finisher at the rim. There is a reason only Centers and PF are ahead of him in FG%. Because they typically have much higher rim % finishing. But JMac is just that great at finishing at the rim himself in just about any way you can think of.

In multiple college seasons his FT% in college averaged to 73.8% which isn't high, but is not horrible. As a freshman in college it was low .652 and one of the seasons got up to .798. I believe the FT line is the one moment and place on the court where he felt the pressure of the NBA level upon him as a rookie. I would expect him to get back above .700 but it's possible this is just never going to be he greatest strength and maybe never gets into mid 80s.

The interesting part is that at every level his first year are his lowest numbers almost across the board and then they all go up higher. Which is normal for most players. His rookie numbers just weren't normal or average, certainly not from an undrafted type. Not even compared to the most hyped/drafted players last year.

He's an important get and to this point the crown jewel of the Rosas development program.

[Jedzz]

Assists/g - second of all rookies (Ja Morant #1)

Steals/g - second of all rookies (Thybulle #1)

Two double doubles, a third was one assist away

In 13 of 30 games he shot 3pt% of 50% to 100%. (25 of 37 shots for a 68% average) All but 1 game came in Jan-March 2020. Onlytwo of these games were of the 30+ minute starting variety. 11 of these games were off the bench from 13-23 minutes.

Flashing flasher flashes - a two way gleague player did this in the almighty talented NBA of tall people.

[BrandyMcRoyFoye]

Hope we can get him back. Doesn't necessarily look like a great situation from his perspective, but any injury to Rubio or Russell would spell significant minutes.

[Jedzz]

Dj Augustin leaves Orlando and signed a 3yr 21 million deal with Bucks, 3rd yr team option. backup for Jrue
33 years old, 5-11, 183lb, going into 13th season. 41%fg, 38% 3fg / 4 apg career - Solid player still. But JMac is better.

Cole Anthony ($3.2) will maybe take up his old role with Orlando. 15th pick last yr. 38% fg/35% 3fg /4 apg
Fultz ($12) starts there now, 2017 #1 overall, 46% fg, 27% 3fg / 5 apg

People wonder why some teams stink every year. Go find better players Orlando, under a rock if you need to, stashed in 3rd pg roles on other teams, uncover undrafteds. Anything but starting a 27% player for $12/yr now. Rubio was never that bad.

[minimus]

Hope we can get him back. Doesn't necessarily look like a great situation from his perspective, but any injury to Rubio or Russell would spell significant minutes.

Not to mention that his slashing ablity compliments both Rubio and DLo very well

[Jedzz]

So...we just going to hold onto his RFA status till the season starts? They already signed Hagen to the two way PG role. They going to have 2 two way PGs this time? Or is this the classic cut free one week before thing?

[shangrila]

So...we just going to hold onto his RFA status till the season starts? They already signed Hagen to the two way PG role. They going to have 2 two way PGs this time? Or is this the classic cut free one week before thing?

It's clear at this point that they want to let the market decide his value, so most likely they're waiting for a deal to come in and then see if they want to match it. If nothing materialises then they've probably already got a deal on the table for him, which he's hoping another team will top, so he'll either accept that or take the QO and play out the season.