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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1461 » by NBA Sheady » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:20 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Local_NG_Idiot wrote:
Who cares about a little organ inflammation anyways? I mean all it does is increases an individuals risk of respiratory infection like pneumonia and bronchitis as well as increase the risk of stroke and other cardiovascular diseases including premature vascular dementia.

Everyone should just suck it up so that bars can reopen and we can all have a drink and smoke together. AMIRIGHT?!

How do you think your new vaccine works? LMAO


The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.


Since you're obviously so well versed in Vaccine science why don't you tell us what you don't like about the Phase 3 trials from Pfizer and Moderna. You've obviously read the full text by now. Please enlighten us. For bonus points tell me about the Oxford/AstraZeneca Phase 3 trial.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1462 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:33 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Local_NG_Idiot wrote:
Who cares about a little organ inflammation anyways? I mean all it does is increases an individuals risk of respiratory infection like pneumonia and bronchitis as well as increase the risk of stroke and other cardiovascular diseases including premature vascular dementia.

Everyone should just suck it up so that bars can reopen and we can all have a drink and smoke together. AMIRIGHT?!

How do you think your new vaccine works? LMAO


The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.

if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1463 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:57 pm

YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:How do you think your new vaccine works? LMAO


The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.

if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.


No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1464 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:01 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.

if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.


No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


that's...not how the vaccine distribution will work. but thank you.
hospital employees and seniors will be first. then there will be a wait for more data to come out. after 3ish months, a general release will roll out.
i've had COVID so i'm not a priority patient.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1465 » by NBA Sheady » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:01 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.

if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.


No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1466 » by Local_NG_Idiot » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:03 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
The same politicians and fools alike actually believe a safe vaccine with no side effects to “save” everyone is going to magically get us back to normal in 2021. Its hilarious.

Vaccines typically take 10 years to ensure safety. A coronavirus strain to date has NEVER produced a viable vaccine.

Insanity I tell you.

if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.


No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.



you tell him! He'll be the sucker in the vaccine line while we're in line to get into the bar! AMIRIGHT?!

Oh, and anyone who's scared of a vaccine, you can just stay in your home to be safe!
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1467 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:17 pm

MadDogSHWA wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:if you were smart(er), you'd know that most of these are piggybacking off the 15 years' research for the SARS vaccine. that's why they were able to pull it off so quickly.
SARS vaccine never was released because it was self limiting. didn't spread well (unlike the flu and COVID).
but please, continue.


No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1468 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:32 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:Seven in ten younger COVID-19 patients show 'mild' organ damage months after infection

Please stop talking about the mortality rate.

https://www.firstpost.com/health/seven-in-ten-younger-covid-19-patients-show-mild-organ-damage-months-after-infection-9022831.html

Weak article depth. "mild" organ damage in your post refers to "mild" inflammation. A common effect of respiratory diseases. More long term study is required.



Good lord. It can cause damage to your heart and can do so often. And nobody knows yet if it is possible for everyone to to heal from yet.

Why is this so hard for people to not argue every single minute. For example...

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/09/03/what-covid-19-is-doing-to-the-heart-even-after-recovery
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1469 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:34 pm

Yosemite Dan wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
The word inflammation does not appear in that article.

Here is the actual study for those with functional brains
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.14.20212555v1.full.pdf


155 Definition of organ impairment
156 MRI-derived measurements from the heart, lungs, kidney, liver, pancreas and spleen were
157 compared with established reference ranges (Table S1) to determine impairment for each
158 organ. An individual organ was classified as impaired if at least one of the metrics calculated
159 for that organ was outside the reference range. Excessive organ fat was not considered as
160 an indicator of impairment on the assumption that this was likely pre-existing and thus
161 treated separately. Organ impairment was defined for each metric according to established
162 cut-offs (Table S1) and was grouped by evidence of: borderline or low ejection fraction and
163 evidence of myocarditis in the heart; reduced pulmonary dynamic measurements in the
164 lungs; elevated cortical T1 in the kidneys; borderline or definite inflammation in the liver and
165 pancreas; and splenomegaly from spleen length

I clearly stated post, not article. And thanks for providing the study's definition: measuring the organs for inflammation. ie. typically seen in many respiratory diseases. Ask any biologist.


Stop it. You’re making too much sense. Fear mongering must persist.


Or you could get your information from reading anything other than opinion posts and pieces. As difficult as that seems to be for about 40% of the population right now.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1470 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:38 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.


If they put you at the front of the line, I’ll pay you to take your spot then. I would really like to be able to travel again and go away. And when you decide you don't want the vaccine...you can stay right where you are, because you can bet that no other nation is letting you in without proof. Oh sorry.... did that reality interrupt your good time again?
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1471 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:48 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.

you just replied to him, so you clearly give a f.
but nice try.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1472 » by NBA Sheady » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:55 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
No problem, I'm sure you'll be the first in line to tell us how it went since you are the smart one.


Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers.


This actually makes the ignorance and sheer stupidity you're displaying even more reprehensible.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1473 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:56 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.


If they put you at the front of the line, I’ll pay you to take your spot then. I would really like to be able to travel again and go away. And when you decide you don't want the vaccine...you can stay right where you are, because you can bet that no other nation is letting you in without proof. Oh sorry.... did that reality interrupt your good time again?


I'm good thanks. Happy travels. What I do is none of your concern.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1474 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:59 pm

YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
Given that he's a pharmacist I suspect he will get one early. :lol: :lol: :lol:

God you guys are dumb.


Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.

you just replied to him, so you clearly give a f.
but nice try.


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Post#1475 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:04 pm

ignoring the **** posting on here....
my wife has been a Long Hauler. had a really poor recovery from COVID. never told my story on here, but here it goes.

we went to Japan in early March when their numbers appeared to be on par with canada (per capita) and we were still learning about COVID. got there, were relative cautious, didn't wear masks though, because, dumb North Americans. anyways, came back in mid-March. cut our trip short due to things getting nuts here. went back to work April but wife couldn't work (her field was closed due to COVID).
at work, i pushed for stronger precautions. the owner complied. we had plexiglass installed, staff wore masks, we sanitized. i wanted clients to wear masks when they came in, he said no, that's illegal (it's not).
Mid-june, my wife goes back to work on a Monday (dental offices opened). Tuesday, i'm off work. feeling really light headed while gardening. tell her that i'm feeling rough. she goes to work, i nap for 2 hrs. thought it was a thunderstorm that was causing me to feel off.
Wednesday, she develops a light cough.
Thursday, she decides to not go to work because the optics would be bad. gets a COVID test. Thursday, i develop a light cough but attribute it to allergies.
Friday, she's off work as am I.
Saturday, i bike 9 km to work. go to open the pharmacy and my wife calls. she tested positive. we were both shocked. we were both INCREDIBLY cautious. at that point, we were still sanitizing things that came into our house. masks on when we went indoors anywhere. we didn't go out much and we were only places together and it was brief and took precautions. her COVID test was done simply to rule it out so she could comfortably go back to work and, back in June, we were still figuring out testing/protocols/etc.
So i immediately call the owner and lock the pharmacy up, sanitize it and bike home. totally feeling fine. i go for a COVID test that afternoon.
Sunday, both fine, mild tickle-in-throat cough.
Monday: BOOM. lethargy - mental and physical - and some shortness of breath that progressively gets worse as the week goes on. We don't have many memories of our quarantine. i would garden and do weed removal in an abandoned lot a block from our house. after 45 minutes, i could barely walk home. head spinning, no energy. wife would just lay on the couch on the porch, reading and napping. i had a massive headache most of the time. no fever. no loss of taste/smell.
by day 10, the shortness of breath really started to get bad. you could feel yourself labouring to breathe when sitting down. my wife was on the cusp of needing hospitalization. SOB causes increased anxiety as well. so she was not great. we turned a slight corner on day 12. isolation ended but we were scared to leave the house, so we stayed in for another 3-4 days.

i started to get better, could bike and be fine, but then breathing issues got worse after a month. i now basically have asthma. short of breath when resting (depends on the day), wheezing after exercise/exertion. my wife has no stamina. it's starting to come back half a year later. loses her breath when she walks up stairs. normally could go for 90 minute walks but 10 minutes was all she could muster.

by the way: my COVID test was negative. i was one of the false negatives, but i was sharing a house and bed with someone who was positive and has symptoms, so i was considered COVID positive.

my wife also took part in a study for interferon use. she ended up being on the placebo side. she was told that her viral load was "quite high". i'm guessing i got it from work and then gave it to her.

i deal with the SOB in stride, hoping it will eventually resolve. but 1/2 a year later, it's still here. comes and goes. today is a not great day, but it doesn't stop me from doing anything. i just realize that i may be wheezing for 5-10 minutes after, or coughing up oysters.

my wife went for a stress test today. the technician told her that her heart's in good shape, which is good initial news. she'd also been dealing with chest pain and burning lungs off and on (mostly on). hockey's thankfully cancelled for me this year, since i am worried about latent cardiac issues i may have.

so that's my COVID story. F Adamson BBQ. F the selfish idiots that post here. the only reason these people upset me is not because we got sick, but because i worry about my parents, your parents, your friends and family that are going through chemo, those that need surgery that will likely be cancelled. F U for your behaviours leading to the death of people's parents, spouses, uncles, aunts, friends. honest to god, i wish some of you had the courage to listen to experts instead of formulating your opinions off of loony youtube videos you've seen. you guys have no clue how stupid and unstable you sound. you really don't. every time you write "sheep" or "sheeple", all i can think of is how embarrassed your family is of you and how you think, how ashamed your parents must be to have raised you to be such poor thinkers. Science is coming up with stronger and stronger data every month and you're rejecting that more aggressively as it comes it. it makes zero sense. i have no clue what's wrong with you and i know nothing i say will change your irrational opinions.

just be aware that, while we strangers are laughing at you and disgusted with you, your family's probably beside themselves knowing that they share the same DNA as you. and no matter what you say to "prove" i'm wrong, no matter what claims you make that your family's proud of you...nope. we here all know the truth.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1476 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:09 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.

you just replied to him, so you clearly give a f.
but nice try.


Believe what you want. I'll live my life the way I see fit.

i have no problems with that.
just don't do anything to put anyone else's lives at risk. stay home. order food in. leave us all alone and live your miserable life on your own. thanks
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1477 » by mtcan » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:09 pm

BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
Normally I wouldn't respond to trolls like you, but I'll bite. You don't know me. You don't know my family, or that I have family in the medical field including a doctor, pharmacist among other careers. Quite frankly, IDGAF about your opinion as I would never care about the opinion of someone who I wouldn't seek advice from. Cheers.

you just replied to him, so you clearly give a f.
but nice try.


Believe what you want. I'll live my life the way I see fit.

No...the funny thing about what you say is what is fundamentally wrong. Science isn't a belief. You don't choose to believe facts. You being ignorant to facts doesn't make your reality real.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1478 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:23 pm

YogiStewart wrote:ignoring the **** posting on here....
my wife has been a Long Hauler. had a really poor recovery from COVID. never told my story on here, but here it goes.

we went to Japan in early March when their numbers appeared to be on par with canada (per capita) and we were still learning about COVID. got there, were relative cautious, didn't wear masks though, because, dumb North Americans. anyways, came back in mid-March. cut our trip short due to things getting nuts here. went back to work April but wife couldn't work (her field was closed due to COVID).
at work, i pushed for stronger precautions. the owner complied. we had plexiglass installed, staff wore masks, we sanitized. i wanted clients to wear masks when they came in, he said no, that's illegal (it's not).
Mid-june, my wife goes back to work on a Monday (dental offices opened). Tuesday, i'm off work. feeling really light headed while gardening. tell her that i'm feeling rough. she goes to work, i nap for 2 hrs. thought it was a thunderstorm that was causing me to feel off.
Wednesday, she develops a light cough.
Thursday, she decides to not go to work because the optics would be bad. gets a COVID test. Thursday, i develop a light cough but attribute it to allergies.
Friday, she's off work as am I.
Saturday, i bike 9 km to work. go to open the pharmacy and my wife calls. she tested positive. we were both shocked. we were both INCREDIBLY cautious. at that point, we were still sanitizing things that came into our house. masks on when we went indoors anywhere. we didn't go out much and we were only places together and it was brief and took precautions. her COVID test was done simply to rule it out so she could comfortably go back to work and, back in June, we were still figuring out testing/protocols/etc.
So i immediately call the owner and lock the pharmacy up, sanitize it and bike home. totally feeling fine. i go for a COVID test that afternoon.
Sunday, both fine, mild tickle-in-throat cough.
Monday: BOOM. lethargy - mental and physical - and some shortness of breath that progressively gets worse as the week goes on. We don't have many memories of our quarantine. i would garden and do weed removal in an abandoned lot a block from our house. after 45 minutes, i could barely walk home. head spinning, no energy. wife would just lay on the couch on the porch, reading and napping. i had a massive headache most of the time. no fever. no loss of taste/smell.
by day 10, the shortness of breath really started to get bad. you could feel yourself labouring to breathe when sitting down. my wife was on the cusp of needing hospitalization. SOB causes increased anxiety as well. so she was not great. we turned a slight corner on day 12. isolation ended but we were scared to leave the house, so we stayed in for another 3-4 days.

i started to get better, could bike and be fine, but then breathing issues got worse after a month. i now basically have asthma. short of breath when resting (depends on the day), wheezing after exercise/exertion. my wife has no stamina. it's starting to come back half a year later. loses her breath when she walks up stairs. normally could go for 90 minute walks but 10 minutes was all she could muster.

by the way: my COVID test was negative. i was one of the false negatives, but i was sharing a house and bed with someone who was positive and has symptoms, so i was considered COVID positive.

my wife also took part in a study for interferon use. she ended up being on the placebo side. she was told that her viral load was "quite high". i'm guessing i got it from work and then gave it to her.

i deal with the SOB in stride, hoping it will eventually resolve. but 1/2 a year later, it's still here. comes and goes. today is a not great day, but it doesn't stop me from doing anything. i just realize that i may be wheezing for 5-10 minutes after, or coughing up oysters.

my wife went for a stress test today. the technician told her that her heart's in good shape, which is good initial news. she'd also been dealing with chest pain and burning lungs off and on (mostly on). hockey's thankfully cancelled for me this year, since i am worried about latent cardiac issues i may have.

so that's my COVID story. F Adamson BBQ. F the selfish idiots that post here. the only reason these people upset me is not because we got sick, but because i worry about my parents, your parents, your friends and family that are going through chemo, those that need surgery that will likely be cancelled. F U for your behaviours leading to the death of people's parents, spouses, uncles, aunts, friends. honest to god, i wish some of you had the courage to listen to experts instead of formulating your opinions off of loony youtube videos you've seen. you guys have no clue how stupid and unstable you sound. you really don't. every time you write "sheep" or "sheeple", all i can think of is how embarrassed your family is of you and how you think, how ashamed your parents must be to have raised you to be such poor thinkers. Science is coming up with stronger and stronger data every month and you're rejecting that more aggressively as it comes it. it makes zero sense. i have no clue what's wrong with you and i know nothing i say will change your irrational opinions.

just be aware that, while we strangers are laughing at you and disgusted with you, your family's probably beside themselves knowing that they share the same DNA as you. and no matter what you say to "prove" i'm wrong, no matter what claims you make that your family's proud of you...nope. we here all know the truth.


Thank you for sharing and more importantly educating. These testimonies need to be heard and understood. All the best to you and your wife, I know you didn't say this for sympathy but to counter some of the misinformation being spread. It's needed.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1479 » by BigBoss23 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:25 pm

YogiStewart wrote:
BigBoss23 wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:you just replied to him, so you clearly give a f.
but nice try.


Believe what you want. I'll live my life the way I see fit.

i have no problems with that.
just don't do anything to put anyone else's lives at risk. stay home. order food in. leave us all alone and live your miserable life on your own. thanks


Thanks for trying to make it personal just because I share a different opinion that doesn't go with the mainstream media like many other educated people. You have no clue what my practices are and are obviously going to make foolish assumptions. My life's quite good as a matter of fact. Seems you and your crew of sheep are the ones taking this personally and name calling among other reportable acts of conduct.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#1480 » by YogiStewart » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:26 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:ignoring the **** posting on here....
my wife has been a Long Hauler. had a really poor recovery from COVID. never told my story on here, but here it goes.

we went to Japan in early March when their numbers appeared to be on par with canada (per capita) and we were still learning about COVID. got there, were relative cautious, didn't wear masks though, because, dumb North Americans. anyways, came back in mid-March. cut our trip short due to things getting nuts here. went back to work April but wife couldn't work (her field was closed due to COVID).
at work, i pushed for stronger precautions. the owner complied. we had plexiglass installed, staff wore masks, we sanitized. i wanted clients to wear masks when they came in, he said no, that's illegal (it's not).
Mid-june, my wife goes back to work on a Monday (dental offices opened). Tuesday, i'm off work. feeling really light headed while gardening. tell her that i'm feeling rough. she goes to work, i nap for 2 hrs. thought it was a thunderstorm that was causing me to feel off.
Wednesday, she develops a light cough.
Thursday, she decides to not go to work because the optics would be bad. gets a COVID test. Thursday, i develop a light cough but attribute it to allergies.
Friday, she's off work as am I.
Saturday, i bike 9 km to work. go to open the pharmacy and my wife calls. she tested positive. we were both shocked. we were both INCREDIBLY cautious. at that point, we were still sanitizing things that came into our house. masks on when we went indoors anywhere. we didn't go out much and we were only places together and it was brief and took precautions. her COVID test was done simply to rule it out so she could comfortably go back to work and, back in June, we were still figuring out testing/protocols/etc.
So i immediately call the owner and lock the pharmacy up, sanitize it and bike home. totally feeling fine. i go for a COVID test that afternoon.
Sunday, both fine, mild tickle-in-throat cough.
Monday: BOOM. lethargy - mental and physical - and some shortness of breath that progressively gets worse as the week goes on. We don't have many memories of our quarantine. i would garden and do weed removal in an abandoned lot a block from our house. after 45 minutes, i could barely walk home. head spinning, no energy. wife would just lay on the couch on the porch, reading and napping. i had a massive headache most of the time. no fever. no loss of taste/smell.
by day 10, the shortness of breath really started to get bad. you could feel yourself labouring to breathe when sitting down. my wife was on the cusp of needing hospitalization. SOB causes increased anxiety as well. so she was not great. we turned a slight corner on day 12. isolation ended but we were scared to leave the house, so we stayed in for another 3-4 days.

i started to get better, could bike and be fine, but then breathing issues got worse after a month. i now basically have asthma. short of breath when resting (depends on the day), wheezing after exercise/exertion. my wife has no stamina. it's starting to come back half a year later. loses her breath when she walks up stairs. normally could go for 90 minute walks but 10 minutes was all she could muster.

by the way: my COVID test was negative. i was one of the false negatives, but i was sharing a house and bed with someone who was positive and has symptoms, so i was considered COVID positive.

my wife also took part in a study for interferon use. she ended up being on the placebo side. she was told that her viral load was "quite high". i'm guessing i got it from work and then gave it to her.

i deal with the SOB in stride, hoping it will eventually resolve. but 1/2 a year later, it's still here. comes and goes. today is a not great day, but it doesn't stop me from doing anything. i just realize that i may be wheezing for 5-10 minutes after, or coughing up oysters.

my wife went for a stress test today. the technician told her that her heart's in good shape, which is good initial news. she'd also been dealing with chest pain and burning lungs off and on (mostly on). hockey's thankfully cancelled for me this year, since i am worried about latent cardiac issues i may have.

so that's my COVID story. F Adamson BBQ. F the selfish idiots that post here. the only reason these people upset me is not because we got sick, but because i worry about my parents, your parents, your friends and family that are going through chemo, those that need surgery that will likely be cancelled. F U for your behaviours leading to the death of people's parents, spouses, uncles, aunts, friends. honest to god, i wish some of you had the courage to listen to experts instead of formulating your opinions off of loony youtube videos you've seen. you guys have no clue how stupid and unstable you sound. you really don't. every time you write "sheep" or "sheeple", all i can think of is how embarrassed your family is of you and how you think, how ashamed your parents must be to have raised you to be such poor thinkers. Science is coming up with stronger and stronger data every month and you're rejecting that more aggressively as it comes it. it makes zero sense. i have no clue what's wrong with you and i know nothing i say will change your irrational opinions.

just be aware that, while we strangers are laughing at you and disgusted with you, your family's probably beside themselves knowing that they share the same DNA as you. and no matter what you say to "prove" i'm wrong, no matter what claims you make that your family's proud of you...nope. we here all know the truth.


Thank you for sharing and more importantly educating. These testimonies need to be heard and understood. All the best to you and your wife, I know you didn't say this for sympathy but to counter some of the misinformation being spread. It's needed.


thanks.
i can honestly say i don't want any sympathy. we have our (relative) health. others have it worse.
the double whammy is that i lost my job when i got COVID. the pharmacy owner took it personally. thought i was blaming him for getting it (which i wasn't). so I've been off work since June. due to the pandemic, there aren't many prospects in sight. but we're hanging in there.

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