Official Miami Heat Pre-Season GT - Maxing Bam while Still Getting Giannis: Saving Tips from IggieCC

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Was watching Paul Eboua highlights. Really like his skill set I'd take him over all our other 2 way players already.

[miamiballer]

Assuming we sell Giannis on the heat and have about 26 mil in cap space could we not keep keep herro, Duncan, nunn etc and Just exercise our player options on Leonard, Bradley and/or harkless and 1st rd picks for Giannis, if he’s set on coming here, kind of like we did with LeBron?

[dean456]

Also I'm not really sure how our salaries will look down the line but Bam getting 5yrs with no team or player option could be beneficial for us as well. If we can arrange our players to expire in 2024-2025 then we could target the players on the list of contract extensions this year like Tatum, Fox and Mitchell and we'd only have Bam's rookie max on the books rather than Bam's larger cap hold on our books.

So for example Jimmy's final year is 37.6mil but his cap hold will be like 45.9mil So Bam could save us a good chunk of cap room down the line if our plan is to target one of these guys down the road.

[dean456]

I'm happy for Bam and glad the Heat have him locked up for the next 5yrs. But can't help but wonder why we couldn't have operated differently in free agency if we had of known that Bam was going to operate this way?

Going over this in my head and it makes some sense. I'm assuming our plan is to now trade Iggy, Leonard, Bradley, Harkless and our remaining picks for whatever free agent we are targeting which adds to $33.6mil where someone like Giannis' max salary this season would be $32,742,000 and would likely marginally go up slightly next year to almost exactly 33.6mil.

I would have to guess the reason we didn't say give Leonard like 4mil less so that we could retain Crowder for the 3yr 11.4mil starting salary he got was because his agent was aware of this and he didn't want to be used in a trade and be stuck somewhere he doesn't want to be for the extent of his contract.

The other part of this is a team like Milwaukee if they are losing Giannis likely want a quick turn around and don't want to take on long term contracts that way they can get money off their books faster and start their rebuild immediately.

Even that doesn’t make sense. We can’t trade Leonard, Goran, nor Bradley without their consent.

Pretty sure this is only before the trade deadline. Which means we can trade them freely next offseason.

[Miami590]

Since we won’t have max cap space next year, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t trade everyone except Bam and Butler to get Harden. I doubt Giannis leaves so let’s make the next best move.

[dean456]

Assuming we sell Giannis on the heat and have about 26 mil in cap space could we not keep keep herro, Duncan, nunn etc and Just exercise our player options on Leonard, Bradley and/or harkless and 1st rd picks for Giannis, if he’s set on coming here, kind of like we did with LeBron?

No because we'd likely only have roughly 21mil in cap room (If the salary cap is something like 112mil) if we renounce Dragic, Iggy, Olynyk, Leonard, Harkless and Bradley. If we also renounce Herro, Robinson and Nunn that becomes 26.6mil.

[dean456]

Since we won’t have max cap space next year, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t trade everyone except Bam and Butler to get Harden. I doubt Giannis leaves so let’s make the next best move.

No, If Giannis doesn't sign the max extension we should still wait. If there is still an opportunity to S&T for a max player and retain all our young core we should still absolutely do that. Could be Giannis, could be PG13 could be Kawhi. I'd take any of those plus Herro, Robinson and Nunn over just Harden any day of the week.

[3ballbomber]

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[Wiltside]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Really excited to see how Bam and Tyler take their games to the next level this year.

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Probably a half-lie. Even if he hasn't spoken to Giannis, the fact that both have the same agent suggests that Bam is likely privy to the direction that Giannis is leaning in.

I don't think so. That would mean the agent is working against Giannis's interests when it's his job to represent his client.

[Bhut Jolokia]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Really excited to see how Bam and Tyler take their games to the next level this year.

Yeah, that would be the best case scenario. It’s possible for that to happen though?

[Beenie]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Really excited to see how Bam and Tyler take their games to the next level this year.

What would Mia be trading to the Bucks in this scenario? I suppose however many future 1st rounders allowed. But low-level picks wouldn't be enough to get it done.

[twix2500]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Really excited to see how Bam and Tyler take their games to the next level this year.

What would Mia be trading to the Bucks in this scenario? I suppose however many future 1st rounders allowed. But low-level picks wouldn't be enough to get it done.

Like Lebron James trade to the Heat. If Giannis announces he will sign with Heat. Bucks have little leverage to demand anything.

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[3ballbomber]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Oh abso-phuckin-lutely! Our system wld make that roster even better than what it already is - that's the advantage of playing here. We'd be potentially looking at 2-3peat w/ that unit.

[3ballbomber]

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[Bhut Jolokia]

Honestly, if we can S&T for Giannis and retain Herro and DRob, it's ova.

Herro
Butler
Robinson
Adebayo
Giannis

That's an elite lineup, man.

Oh abso-phuckin-lutely! Our system wld make that roster even better than what it already is - that's the advantage of playing here. We'd be potentially looking at 2-3peat w/ that unit.

The cap space would have to be large enough to fit all those salaries in it. That is the main problem, not getting the Bucks to accept the trade. Giannis can just threaten to sign with the Raptors or someplace if the trade doesn’t happen.

[dean456]

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Probably a half-lie. Even if he hasn't spoken to Giannis, the fact that both have the same agent suggests that Bam is likely privy to the direction that Giannis is leaning in.

I don't think so. That would mean the agent is working against Giannis's interests when it's his job to represent his client.

Nothing really needs to be discussed between the two. Bam likely knows we are targeting Giannis and Giannis likely knows we have a keen interest in him. Bam doesn't need to know what his intentions are, that's the Heats job to navigate.

The fact that we have been accommodating with Bam's extension could go a long way with Giannis. Have to feel like Giannis having a great understanding about how Bam is treated and how things operate in our organisation with a star level player would surely give us an edge in luring Giannis.

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[insfo]

I think the Hawks are being slept on. They should be an exciting team this season and in the future.

[Bhut Jolokia]

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Haha, they still have the Hawks #10 after all the moves they have made.