Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

thor19 · Post #861 » by **thor19** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:43 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Would you take John Wall even if it included Avdija and picks?

I think thats the only way, take Wall but we need unprotected picks or guy like avdija or hachimura if we are not getting those picks. Moving guys like Hill , Ariza, Hortford, Miller are super easy compare with Wall contract

spearsy23 · Post #862 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:45 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Would you take John Wall even if it included Avdija and picks?

I want to say yes, because there is a good chance his value goes up. the problem is that if he reclaims his value he's playing at an all-star level and we're winning games we don't want to win. Ultimately I'd end up on the no side because it's a no win for us rather he performs well or not. Contract is the same length as Horford's though....

vtime · Post #863 » by **vtime** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:04 pm

You don’t have to tank, good picks are made all over the lottery and you have a ton of picks if you need to move up in the draft. Continue to build a culture of trying to win while accumulating assets. You can do both.

Post #864 » by **slick_watts** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:10 pm

i would take john wall if appropriately compensated for it, and i'm sure sam presti would too, but i don't think the idea of appropriate compensation on the wizards and thunder sides will be close to one another. especially if they can trade him for RW and not have to give up as much.

Post #865 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:22 pm

For me it really depends on how soon Presti thinks he can flip him. I don't want wall here for more than one year.

spearsy23 · Post #866 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:28 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:For me it really depends on how soon Presti thinks he can flip him. I don't want wall here for more than one year.

He'd have to play really well to be gone in a year

Post #867 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:31 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:For me it really depends on how soon Presti thinks he can flip him. I don't want wall here for more than one year.

He'd have to play really well to be gone in a year

I think I would rather have Wiggins than Wall if all things were equal.

spearsy23 · Post #868 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:32 pm

vtime wrote:You don’t have to tank, good picks are made all over the lottery and you have a ton of picks if you need to move up in the draft. Continue to build a culture of trying to win while accumulating assets. You can do both.

The number 1 pick is over twice as likely to be an all-star as the number 5 pick. The number 5 pick is almost twice as likely to be an all-star as the number 10 pick. I agree you don't have to have a top 5 pick to get a good player, but you're much more likely if you do. This team doesn't need culture as much as it needs good players.

Post #869 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:46 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
vtime wrote:You don’t have to tank, good picks are made all over the lottery and you have a ton of picks if you need to move up in the draft. Continue to build a culture of trying to win while accumulating assets. You can do both.

The number 1 pick is over twice as likely to be an all-star as the number 5 pick. The number 5 pick is almost twice as likely to be an all-star as the number 10 pick. I agree you don't have to have a top 5 pick to get a good player, but you're much more likely if you do. This team doesn't need culture as much as it needs good players.

I don't think we have to draft 3 MVPs to build a contender but we need to have at least one player of that caliber with the right supporting cast.

thor19 · Post #870 » by **thor19** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 pm

I know we are going to make some trades to maybe reduce the list of players we have, but I think we are going to cut some too, which one do you think would be cut ?

spearsy23 · Post #871 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:30 am

thor19 wrote:I know we are going to make some trades to maybe reduce the list of players we have, but I think we are going to cut some too, which one do you think would be cut ?

Poirier
Schofield
Leaf
Maybe an Ariza buyout.

Post #872 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:35 am

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Steven has a good agent.

thedoppelganger · Post #873 » by **thedoppelganger** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:38 am

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Post #874 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:34 pm

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jake_swivel · Post #875 » by **jake_swivel** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:42 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:

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Would love that, but didn't Batum get waived already?

Post #876 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:59 pm

I am not sure if everything is official or not. The Hayward trade might just be agreed to in principle.

Post #877 » by **Dadouv47** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:41 pm

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I wasn't kidding, we are going to have 2 teams in the NBA!

Old Man Game · Post #878 » by **Old Man Game** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:51 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:

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I wasn't kidding, we are going to have 2 teams in the NBA!

Confusing move. Is Theo not coming over?

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thedoppelganger · Post #879 » by **thedoppelganger** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:49 am

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Post #880 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:00 am

Old Man Game wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:

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I wasn't kidding, we are going to have 2 teams in the NBA!
Confusing move. Is Theo not coming over?

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I heard on down to dunk that Theo was for sure coming over. Maybe Presti knows George Hill is gone soon.