Dewey wrote:Seems we are lurking to get involved in bigger Harden/Wall type deals... hopefully we can swap spit to balance out roster some.
Source? Would be great to steal Tucker from HOU!
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Dewey wrote:Seems we are lurking to get involved in bigger Harden/Wall type deals... hopefully we can swap spit to balance out roster some.
Dewey wrote:Seems we are lurking to get involved in bigger Harden/Wall type deals... hopefully we can swap spit to balance out roster some.
shrink wrote:andyhop wrote:Worm Guts wrote:
He averaged over 20 ppg on good efficiency, I think your reaction is pretty dismissive.
So you don't believe that there are any other parts that make up the game of basketball?
Of course there isn’t. Don’t harsh their buzz, here at FanGM.com! He’s wearing a TImberwolves jersey!
Worm Guts wrote:He averaged over 20 ppg on good efficiency, I think your reaction is pretty dismissive.
_AIJ_ wrote:shrink wrote:andyhop wrote:
So you don't believe that there are any other parts that make up the game of basketball?
Of course there isn’t. Don’t harsh their buzz, here at FanGM.com! He’s wearing a TImberwolves jersey!
Wtf is this???
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andyhop wrote:Worm Guts wrote:andyhop wrote:
Sure but you don't play at a high level for a team by being a net negative on the court like Beasley was in his 14 games for the Wolves. If someone wants to spruik how well he shot then that's fine but that isn't playing at a high level
I’m not sure what metric you’re using, but his rpm was a positive.
Raptor.BPM,PIPM all negative and a negative BPM for the time he was with the Wolves as well as overall for the season.
The team was better without him on the court than with him on it.
shrink wrote:Seriously though, I agree - it is unlikely, but not impossible, for Beasley to improve and be worth that contract. However, we should not be paying him like that’s the player he is.
I listed six reasons why Beasley has less leverage when you determine the contract he should have received. To illustrate, Joe Harris is another three point shooting player, who had leverage. The Nets couldn’t afford to lose him with their immediate championship goals, and couldn’t replace him if he left. Those are the teams that should be overpaying.
I looked briefly to find the specs on the other deals. Beasley’s team option improves his deal, and I think it is very likely others have this, specifically Goren Dragic. In his situation, MIA has a lot of unnecessary cap space this season, but their real target is Giannis next year. That’s a franchise maker. In their situation, overpaying Dragic for this year alone to keep him is worthwhile to outbid longer term offers, if Dragic’s second year is unguaranteed, and keeps MIA in 2021 cap space.
My point here is that each free agent contract needs to be evaluated based on the player, the team, and the short and longterm affects of that individual team. In our situation, I think we overpaid, especially with minutes being used on guards like Russell, Rubio, Edwards, and our last two 1sts also spent on guards, plus his continually bad defense over his career so far. He has not been a positive player yet - and focusing solely on his three point shooting isn’t a fair representation of who he really is. I have my fingers crossed that his production reaches his new contract level - in the meantime, it’s a negative trade asset.
Jedzz wrote:
Maybe in need of his 3pt shooting. Attempted just over 7/g last season and kept it above 37% anyway, that's respectable. I think some teams are sick of getting completely out shot every game. But it's just another contract making the Beasley deal look like a steal.
That is interesting, especially with Trae who loves to shoot it. Another team stockpiling.minimus wrote:Jedzz wrote:
Maybe in need of his 3pt shooting. Attempted just over 7/g last season and kept it above 37% anyway, that's respectable. I think some teams are sick of getting completely out shot every game. But it's just another contract making the Beasley deal look like a steal.
I understand that ATL have no max contract, they, kind of can afford an overpay, kust like CHA with Hayward. They also have glut of wings, just like MIN. Rondo, Trae, Dunn, Huerter, Hunter, Reddish, Bogdanovic. They also have two defensive-minded bigs who cant shoot Capella and OO.
minimus wrote:Jedzz wrote:
Maybe in need of his 3pt shooting. Attempted just over 7/g last season and kept it above 37% anyway, that's respectable. I think some teams are sick of getting completely out shot every game. But it's just another contract making the Beasley deal look like a steal.
I understand that ATL have no max contract, they, kind of can afford an overpay, kust like CHA with Hayward. They also have glut of wings, just like MIN. Rondo, Trae, Dunn, Huerter, Hunter, Reddish, Bogdanovic. They also have two defensive-minded bigs who cant shoot Capella and OO.
cupcakesnake wrote:I know a lot of people haven't seen him play, but no one is forcing you to make up an opinion and post it.
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