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Jez2983 · Post #661 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:52 am

th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

Wanker?

stellation · Post #662 » by **stellation** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:28 am

th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

A bogan without a D is called Shazza (the lack of class is then assumed for anyone named Shazza*).

*Sorry AB, appreciate that's your mum's name.

blazza18 · Post #663 » by **blazza18** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:46 am

Jez2983 wrote:
th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

Wanker?

****

RiotPunch · Post #664 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:48 am

stellation wrote:
th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

A bogan without a D is called Shazza (the lack of class is then assumed for anyone named Shazza*).

*Sorry AB, appreciate that's your mum's name.

All this time I thought that was called 'blazza'.

HKPackFan · Post #665 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:18 am

**** Bogi and **** Atlanta.

If he wanted to be in Milwaukee he could have pushed to make it happen.

**** that guy.

Now I'm pissed he's in the east and will go off for 35pts against us and just piss the **** out of us even more during the rs.

Ayt · Post #666 » by **Ayt** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:52 am

drone3 wrote:Hawks have some serious fire power. Trae, Bogi, Heurter, Gallo

You put Huerter in there but not Collins?

th87 · Post #667 » by **th87** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:53 am

stellation wrote:
th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

A bogan without a D is called Shazza (the lack of class is then assumed for anyone named Shazza*).

*Sorry AB, appreciate that's your mum's name.

And apparently she's a wrestler?

th87 · Post #668 » by **th87** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:59 am

HKPackFan wrote:**** Bogi and **** Atlanta.

If he wanted to be in Milwaukee he could have pushed to make it happen.

**** that guy.

Now I'm pissed he's in the east and will go off for 35pts against us and just piss the **** out of us even more during the rs.

And **** the NBA.

I haven't been this furious since Tobias Harris, and this is worse because of the stakes and potential domino effects.

Daver · Post #669 » by **Daver** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:25 pm

drone3 wrote:Hopefully Merill lives up to his comparison and becomes the next Bogi.

Thought his comparison was duncan robinson please we can only hooe to have a guy who can hit 44% of his 3s would be a dream scenerio at least for me

ShootingtheJ · Post #670 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:42 pm

HKPackFan wrote:**** Bogi and **** Atlanta.

If he wanted to be in Milwaukee he could have pushed to make it happen.

**** that guy.

Now I'm pissed he's in the east and will go off for 35pts against us and just piss the **** out of us even more during the rs.

Do you remember the last time the Bucks faced Bogdan? He was awful. No worries about facing him again.

machu46 · Post #671 » by **machu46** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:42 pm

Daver wrote:
drone3 wrote:Hopefully Merill lives up to his comparison and becomes the next Bogi.

Thought his comparison was duncan robinson please we can only hooe to have a guy who can hit 44% of his 3s would be a dream scenerio at least for me

No his comparison is actually Luka Doncic

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ShootingtheJ · Post #672 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:45 pm

Ayt wrote:
drone3 wrote:Hawks have some serious fire power. Trae, Bogi, Heurter, Gallo

You put Huerter in there but not Collins?

I think he's highlighting how bad the Hawks defense will be. They spent a lot of money to remain terrible, but what would you expect from a terrible GM.

Jez2983 · Post #673 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:24 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
th87 wrote:Will our Aussie friends take to calling him Bogan because of his lack of D and class?

Wanker?

****

Subject of the title of my favourite TISM song name?

Post #674 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:38 pm

Link to Rusillo's podcast from a couple days ago. He spends a few minutes talking about how to sort out the value in a draft.

https://www.stitcher.com/show/dual-threat-with-ryen-russillo/episode/what-does-value-mean-in-the-nba-plus-sara-walsh-on-the-buccaneers-and-chris-ryan-on-preparing-for-james-harden-in-philly-79584027

Relevant content starts at the 3:30 minute mark

Couple interesting comments:

-He talks about how "newer owners, big money guys, coming in the past decade, and wanting more of a role with the franchise than previous ownership, whether that is the children.......profile of a decision maker in an NBA front office has changed, I sign the check, my son wants to to run a basketball team one day, well hey, I own a basketball team....hey my son really likes this guard, so we should draft him"

-Also contemplates on the value of draft picks. Much harder to get consensus on picks, what is their value, are they overvalued. Takes another zing at the Bucks, saying giving up a 2027 unprotected first seems sort of crazy

ajb905 · Post #675 » by **ajb905** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:58 pm

billionaire nepotism...what can go wrong? As a matter of fact a lot!

buckbeer · Post #676 » by **buckbeer** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:17 pm

I wish billionaires bought the Brewers, the Bucks owners are much more willing to spend big on payroll to win a championship, while the Brewers won't be spending much and may even be reducing their payroll for next season.

The Brewers owner Mark Attanasio should change his name to Mark Scrooge, it has been quite depressing being a Brewers fan.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #677 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:25 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Link to Rusillo's podcast from a couple days ago. He spends a few minutes talking about how to sort out the value in a draft.

https://www.stitcher.com/show/dual-threat-with-ryen-russillo/episode/what-does-value-mean-in-the-nba-plus-sara-walsh-on-the-buccaneers-and-chris-ryan-on-preparing-for-james-harden-in-philly-79584027

Relevant content starts at the 3:30 minute mark

Couple interesting comments:

-He talks about how "newer owners, big money guys, coming in the past decade, and wanting more of a role with the franchise than previous ownership, whether that is the children.......profile of a decision maker in an NBA front office has changed, I sign the check, my son wants to to run a basketball team one day, well hey, I own a basketball team....hey my son really likes this guard, so we should draft him"

-Also contemplates on the value of draft picks. Much harder to get consensus on picks, what is their value, are they overvalued. Takes another zing at the Bucks, saying giving up a 2027 unprotected first seems sort of crazy

All of these nepotism style shortcomings or obstacles would be minimized some if Bucks Billionaire owners, hedge fund money managers, you know, knew how to manage the money and salary cap not even shrewdly, just competently. But, I did think they would bring an acumen from that industry to the NBA which would prove valuable and that they have not. Bucks small market franchise can't afford to make repeated self owning mistakes with such a small margin for error. Great GMs win on the fringe moves just as much as the big moves.

Post #678 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:37 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:All of these nepotism style shortcomings or obstacles would be minimized some if Bucks Billionaire owners, hedge fund money managers, you know, knew how to manage the money and salary cap not even shrewdly, just competently. But, I did think they would bring an acumen from that industry to the NBA which would prove valuable and that they have not. Bucks small market franchise can't afford to make repeated self owning mistakes with such a small margin for error. Great GMs win on the fringe moves just as much as the big moves.

Unfortunately we are in the same boat we had with Kohl. Really sharp front office people don't want to work for the Bucks, because they'll have Marc and Alex as their wingmen, or the Bucks owners want to make sure they hire people that will allow them to get their meddle on.

The one new wrinkle is that Kohl never really cared about national NBA publicity, as long as the season ticket crowd locally was happy. The Lasry's crave being in the ESPN vortex.

midranger · Post #679 » by **midranger** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:42 pm

The NBA is going to punish us for the tampering in the most severe way possible; Marc Lasry won’t be able to play in the next all star game pro am.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #680 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:49 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:All of these nepotism style shortcomings or obstacles would be minimized some if Bucks Billionaire owners, hedge fund money managers, you know, knew how to manage the money and salary cap not even shrewdly, just competently. But, I did think they would bring an acumen from that industry to the NBA which would prove valuable and that they have not. Bucks small market franchise can't afford to make repeated self owning mistakes with such a small margin for error. Great GMs win on the fringe moves just as much as the big moves.

Unfortunately we are in the same boat we had with Kohl. Really sharp front office people don't want to work for the Bucks, because they'll have Marc and Alex as their wingmen, or the Bucks owners want to make sure they hire people that will allow them to get their meddle on.

The one new wrinkle is that Kohl never really cared about national NBA publicity, as long as the season ticket crowd locally was happy. The Lasry's crave being in the ESPN vortex.

I think you're underestimating how much owners in the NBA 'meddle'. I don't think the Bucks job is all that different than most GM jobs in the league. Dallas is perceived as a good job but Mark Cuban has mentioned in an interview he vetoed them taking Giannis. Very rich people tend to have egos and love control and at the end of the day GMs are their employees and I don't think there's a franchise in the league where the owners don't have some input on large moves.

Now did the Bucks hire an inexperienced guy in Horst because they knew he would have less push back? Maybe and that's an issue. But when that job was open I think plenty of good candidates were interested.

I'd bet like 20 fan bases think their owner sucks and is a meddling idiot.

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