ATL - 20-21 Season Begins

[theFireBlanket]

So they basically waded up to their necks in one of the most absurd bidding wars in NBA history for Jrue, giving up #24, Bledsoe, Hill, protection on the Cavs pick, payroll flexibility, what could easily be 4 high lotto picks, AND their chance of having enough outgoing salary to get Bogdan, and now we find out Bogdan was Giannis's preferred teammate all along???

I think Giannis, if he doesn't know by now, is going to find out very soon why Jrue was priority #1.

[greekbuck34]

Brogdan was Giannis' only wish and he helped them complete it until they screw it up. I doubt they asked him to choose between Jrue and Bogdan.
The one required all our assets and the other just DDV lol.

[th87]

I get being mad at the league but really how else were they supposed to handle this if another team complains? Say '**** off nerd, everyone breaks our rules'. From what has been reported all they actually did was say they were opening and investigation and sent a memo. Big deal, and if the Bucks actually didn't negotiate a contract then it's a complete nothing.

The league should really just do away with all the grey area and either just openly let anyone talk once the year is done or punish the **** out of the agents along with the teams if they keep the rules. But as long as they basically have this current 'don't ask don't tell' policy you have to at least play by that rule and the Woj tweet crossed that imaginary line.

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Yes - exactly how they handle it when Lebron tampers.

There are many idiots and a--holes in this.

- Whoever leaked it to Woj
- Lasry for not squashing the announcement and then talking about it
- Jealous NBA executives who snitched (Schlenk, probably Lebron) to poach him, and to weaken Giannis' chances of extending
- Silver for making a big deal out of this while looking the other way for literally every other situation
- Bucks or Bogdan or both for not just going through with it, and then going to the media about Lebron's tampering if the NBA makes a big deal out of it.

Bottom line, I hate the NBA even more after this. They don't even attempt to level the playing field.

[paulpressey25]

Bottom line, I hate the NBA even more after this. They don't even attempt to level the playing field.

I'm as much in the league sucks category as anyone.

However, as more comes out on this story, it sure feels like the Bucks had the deal with Bogdan at $18 million a year, did the Jrue trade, then someone later pointed out that with Jrue's $4.5 million bonus clause going against the hard cap, they could only pay Bogdan $15 million.

Doesn't missing that Jrue salary cap nuance now fit, given what happened with Pat a couple days later?

[WRau1]

Bottom line, I hate the NBA even more after this. They don't even attempt to level the playing field.

I'm as much in the league sucks category as anyone.

However, as more comes out on this story, it sure feels like the Bucks had the deal with Bogdan at $18 million a year, did the Jrue trade, then someone later pointed out that with Jrue's $4.5 million bonus clause going against the hard cap, they could only pay Bogdan $15 million.

Doesn't missing that Jrue salary cap nuance now fit, given what happened with Pat a couple days later?

I find it hard to believe that the Bucks couldn't send out a couple 2nds to whatever team absorbs Wilson. That would recoup the space needed.

[theFireBlanket]

Brogdan was Giannis' only wish and he helped them complete it until they screw it up. I doubt they asked him to choose between Jrue and Bogdan.
The one required all our assets and the other just DDV lol.

Jrue costs more because he wins more games. He's the better player by a mile & he wasn't a FA.

[paulpressey25]

I find it hard to believe that the Bucks couldn't send out a couple 2nds to whatever team absorbs Wilson. That would recoup the space needed.

Wilson and his salary were already going outbound to the Kings.

[WRau1]

It sucks that a lot of us fans wanted Giannis to recruit more but when he finally did, we bungled it. Then again, it doesn't sound like Bogdan was taking any kind of cut to play here.

[greekbuck34]

Brogdan was Giannis' only wish and he helped them complete it until they screw it up. I doubt they asked him to choose between Jrue and Bogdan.
The one required all our assets and the other just DDV lol.

Jrue costs more because he wins more games. He's the better player by a mile & he wasn't a FA.

I don't compare the players but the difficulty of the moves.

Giannis was talking with him for months, Bogdan wanted to play with him, the Kings wanted to S&T with us and nobody else was willing to pay him more that what we offered him.
It seemed like a simple deal to make and complete, it didn't require much to please Giannis and we somehow **** up in the end.

[yannisk]

to be honest I don't care that much about Bogdan even though he seemed like a good fit, what worries me is the complete incompetence of this organization. You can see it in a few deals every year and has left the team with no real assets or cap space, or draft picks, or bench.

[th87]

Bottom line, I hate the NBA even more after this. They don't even attempt to level the playing field.

I'm as much in the league sucks category as anyone.

However, as more comes out on this story, it sure feels like the Bucks had the deal with Bogdan at $18 million a year, did the Jrue trade, then someone later pointed out that with Jrue's $4.5 million bonus clause going against the hard cap, they could only pay Bogdan $15 million.

Doesn't missing that Jrue salary cap nuance now fit, given what happened with Pat a couple days later?

I find it hard to believe that the Bucks couldn't send out a couple 2nds to whatever team absorbs Wilson. That would recoup the space needed.

Right, or maybe have Robin opt-in and send him closer to home (not sure you can even do this).

[drone3]

Bottom line, I hate the NBA even more after this. They don't even attempt to level the playing field.

I'm as much in the league sucks category as anyone.

However, as more comes out on this story, it sure feels like the Bucks had the deal with Bogdan at $18 million a year, did the Jrue trade, then someone later pointed out that with Jrue's $4.5 million bonus clause going against the hard cap, they could only pay Bogdan $15 million.

Doesn't missing that Jrue salary cap nuance now fit, given what happened with Pat a couple days later?

This makes so much sense...

[th87]

Nothing to do now. For those of you familiar with his game, who else is similar to Bogdan?

[paulpressey25]

Giannis was talking with him for months, Bogdan wanted to play with him, the Kings wanted to S&T with us and nobody else was willing to pay him more that what we offered him.
It seemed like a simple deal to make and complete, it didn't require much to please Giannis and we somehow **** up in the end.

In hindsight, I'd rather we just did the Bogdan deal, kept Bledsoe and Hill, and figured out a different deal that wouldn't have cost as much in assets as Jrue.

What that other deal might be, I don't know, but armed with Bledsoe, Hill, three first rounders, two unprotected, two pick swaps and needing to send CLE consideration of a 2nd and unprotecting our 2022 pick to get there. Damn we could have thought up some good alternate stuff here. Realistic trades also

[raferfenix]

I wouldn’t believe that the Bucks screwed up the cap and then (through intermediaries) asked Bogdan to take less money if it weren’t for the fact we screwed up Pat’s deal so soon after.

Maybe the Bucks weren’t expecting to get Jrue and didn’t consider all the ramifications?

Could imagine a world where we were planning to get Schroder and Bogdan, at least until the Lakers beat us to Schroder, after which we decided to go all out for Holiday.

[FrieAaron]

I liked the idea of adding Bogdan and Jrue, and I like Schroeder but we got the best player of those three at least.

[GoldenAntlers]

to be honest I don't care that much about Bogdan even though he seemed like a good fit, what worries me is the complete incompetence of this organization. You can see it in a few deals every year and has left the team with no real assets or cap space, or draft picks, or bench.

This is the direction I've gone. Bogdan would have been nice, but at least the team did get better. However, this blunder is concerning going forward.

[Ron Swanson]

Would have been nice once knowing that the Bogdan deal was dead, we could have pivoted to have Griffin include Reddick in the Holiday trade. It's those kind of things that irk me more than an instance of simply getting screwed by the league. Unexpected things happen, but you should always have a contingency plan. That's where Horst and ownership always seem to be two steps behind the smarter front offices.

[paulpressey25]

Could imagine a world where we were planning to get Schroder and Bogdan, at least until the Lakers beat us to Schroder, after which we decided to go all out for Holiday.

I believe that you have just unearthed what Plan A was. Schroder and Bogdan. And then when the Schroder deal didn't happen, they panicked. And the panic set off a chain reaction of stuff, with a lot of things going wrong.

[paulpressey25]

I liked the idea of adding Bogdan and Jrue, and I like Schroeder but we got the best player of those three at least.

We definitely got the best player. And it might work. That pricetag though...and his future contract situation.