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Post#1281 » by PG Graveyard » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:25 pm

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I knew they wanted him but I had no idea on all the background stuff, that they flew him in secretly and gave him the grand tour and had him meet Bud before the draft and everything. Completely insane that they just sat there and let a player they felt that strongly about get away.


My guess is they didn't have the guts to trade up to get him and felt very comfortable that noone else would take him higher with the lack of background.
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Post#1282 » by Matches Malone » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:50 pm

Jesus... it's like the whole world is against us in this Giannis thing. Clickbait crap all over the internet today. I'm so sick of all of this. I honestly care less and less about the NBA by the day.
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Post#1283 » by LUKE23 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:53 pm

Yeah, I won't be able to handle a full season of this BS. Bucks are done as a franchise if he leaves, so the sooner we find out the better.
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Post#1284 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:41 pm

The headline yesterday about "Giannis impressed that Heat extended Bam now" or something like that killed me. I actually laughed out loud at that.
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Post#1285 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:57 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:The headline yesterday about "Giannis impressed that Heat extended Bam now" or something like that killed me. I actually laughed out loud at that.


Narrator: “Riley knew he had to first secure the services of Bam, before the Greek Freak would take overtures from Miami seriously”
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Post#1286 » by raferfenix » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:04 pm

I think Giannis doesn’t want to deal with the drama of not extending, so he does, and then next offseason decides if he wants to demand a trade Paul George style.

Giannis entering the free agency market alongside Holiday (who doesn’t extend if Giannis isn’t locked up) is a recipe for a disaster of a year.

The Bucks dealing so many unprotected future firsts raises the stakes even more.

Milwaukee being able to get at least some value in return would be way different than Giannis and Holiday leaving us in the lurch too. If that were to happen the Bucks would face an abyss that might end professional basketball in Milwaukee.
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Post#1287 » by Chad34 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:43 pm

slow news day. i'm ready to hear either way. waiting is the worst
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Post#1288 » by Coach Carter » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:53 pm

So hawks were the team that complained? Their ultimate goal is to recruit giannis?
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Post#1289 » by emunney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:09 pm

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Turk Nowitzki wrote:The headline yesterday about "Giannis impressed that Heat extended Bam now" or something like that killed me. I actually laughed out loud at that.


Narrator: “Riley knew he had to first secure the services of Bam, before the Greek Freak would take overtures from Miami seriously”


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Post#1291 » by Big Dog Yank » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:31 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Jesus... it's like the whole world is against us in this Giannis thing. Clickbait crap all over the internet today. I'm so sick of all of this. I honestly care less and less about the NBA by the day.


It does make you stop and question why we should care about this decision, this team and this league at all.

It would be foolish of me to sit here and claim sports in general, or the NBA specifically, are played on a truly level playing field. Advantages exist and that's OK. Some teams call desirable locales home, other franchises are led by intelligent visionaries, some are bankrolled by endless reservoirs of money. Teams exploit whatever advantages they have because sports, after all, is a business of competition, often competition played at the highest level. And when people compete at such high levels, rules tend to be bent ot even broken. What makes things at least somewhat equitable is that major sports are governed by leagues-leagues consisting of structures and rules. These structures and rules provide said leagues and their games a sense of legitimacy, the feeling of fairness, no matter how much this fairness is flawed.

What's going on with Giannis' decision flies in the face of all of this. Is it understandable that leagues prefer for their superstars to be based in their largest TV markets? Of course, that's just good business. But preferences should have no impact on the actions a league takes when it plays the role of arbiter in settling disputes between teams. The veneer of impartiality is gone with the NBA's bogus investigation into the Bucks' supposed tampering concerning the failed Bogdan trade. Did the Bucks do something against the rules here? It is entirely possible that they did. But for the league and Adam Silver to suddenly pose for holy pictures and claim that the league won't stand for a practice that's as NBA as apple pie is American is beyond nauseating. It is, in fact, insulting, as it implies that we, the league's fan base, haven't watched the tampering dance play out in high gear over the past decade. It's akin to the butcher quoting you an inflated price with a straight face as you stare at his thumb resting firmly on the scale.

Not only is the league guilty in this case, but the media is as well. At best, the media-spearheaded by ESPN-is merely complicit in Shanghaiing the Bucks and at worst they're leading the strategy themselves, as they have a vested interest in seeing Giannis relocate to one of the coasts as well.

So that brings me back to my original point-if the league is going to operate this way and stack the deck against Milwaukee and the Bucks, are they really a league worth caring about or following? I think fans situated throughout flyover country should pay close attention to all of this because today it's about us, but tomorrow it could easily be about them. It is then they'll have to answer the question that some of us are grappling with right now-should we even care about this league of they continue to tilt the scales in favor of a chosen few?
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Post#1292 » by giannis and 1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:46 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:Jesus... it's like the whole world is against us in this Giannis thing. Clickbait crap all over the internet today. I'm so sick of all of this. I honestly care less and less about the NBA by the day.


It does make you stop and question why we should care about this decision, this team and this league at all.

It would be foolish of me to sit here and claim sports in general, or the NBA specifically, are played on a truly level playing field. Advantages exist and that's OK. Some teams call desirable locales home, other franchises are led by intelligent visionaries, some are bankrolled by endless reservoirs of money. Teams exploit whatever advantages they have because sports, after all, is a business of competition, often competition played at the highest level. And when people compete at such high levels, rules tend to be bent ot even broken. What makes things at least somewhat equitable is that major sports are governed by leagues-leagues consisting of structures and rules. These structures and rules provide said leagues and their games a sense of legitimacy, the feeling of fairness, no matter how much this fairness is flawed.

What's going on with Giannis' decision flies in the face of all of this. Is it understandable that leagues prefer for their superstars to be based in their largest TV markets? Of course, that's just good business. But preferences should have no impact on the actions a league takes when it plays the role of arbiter in settling disputes between teams. The veneer of impartiality is gone with the NBA's bogus investigation into the Bucks' supposed tampering concerning the failed Bogdan trade. Did the Bucks do something against the rules here? It is entirely possible that they did. But for the league and Adam Silver to suddenly pose for holy pictures and claim that the league won't stand for a practice that's as NBA as apple pie is American is beyond nauseating. It is, in fact, insulting, as it implies that we, the league's fan base, haven't watched the tampering dance play out in high gear over the past decade. It's akin to the butcher quoting you an inflated price with a straight face as you stare at his thumb resting firmly on the scale.

Not only is the league guilty in this case, but the media is as well. At best, the media-spearheaded by ESPN-is merely complicit in Shanghaiing the Bucks and at worst they're leading the strategy themselves, as they have a vested interest in seeing Giannis relocate to one of the coasts as well.

So that brings me back to my original point-if the league is going to operate this way and stack the deck against Milwaukee and the Bucks, are they really a league worth caring about or following? I think fans situated throughout flyover country should pay close attention to all of this because today it's about us, but tomorrow it could easily be about them. It is then they'll have to answer the question that some of us are grappling with right now-should we even care about this league of they continue to tilt the scales in favor of a chosen few?

It really does seem like its us against the world. This franchise has been irrelevant outside of having Kareem and Giannis. One of them left us for a big market team and the league and media is doing everything in its power to have the same thing happen again. What a **** joke.

We came across Giannis by finding a diamond in the rough after 40+ years of pain and they want to it all away from us BEFORE WE HAVE EVEN WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH HIM.
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Post#1293 » by DanoMac » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:48 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:The headline yesterday about "Giannis impressed that Heat extended Bam now" or something like that killed me. I actually laughed out loud at that.


Giannis sitting there watching Bam sign like

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Post#1294 » by Matches Malone » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:48 pm

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Post#1295 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:49 pm

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Post#1296 » by JayMKE » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:50 pm

Implicit right to request a trade but its a legally binding contract, once Giannis signs IDGAF if he burns the Fiserv Forum to the ground and never plays basketball again I'm not trading him but I sincerely doubt it would come to that. I wouldn't care what we could get back, I'd rather the team just leave town entirely if Giannis leaves. Maybe come back in a decade once he's retired.
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Post#1297 » by mke_design » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:51 pm

Matches Malone wrote:More from obssessed raptor fan. Guess we're maga q'anon for thinking the league is stacked against us lol.

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Post#1298 » by DanoMac » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:52 pm

In all seriousness, just told this to Matches Malone via text, if Giannis was even *thinking* about leaving, I’d think we would have seen him start to disassociate himself, or “distance himself” from the Bucks.

The fact that he’s still wearing Bucks gear, all the time (all his workout pics today he’s wearing Bucks stuff), even in Greece, as a top Nike sponsored athlete with any apparel he wants, is a good sign to me
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Post#1299 » by skones » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:53 pm

Matches Malone wrote:More from obssessed raptor fan. Guess we're maga q'anon for thinking the league is stacked against us lol.

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Post#1300 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:59 pm

I have a feeling we will have some very NICE news at page 69. :wink:
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