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How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell?

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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#21 » by snaquille oatmeal » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:43 pm

ROballer wrote:How many minutes Kuzma gets is the least of my problems.

I always stated he won't get paid from the FO and I maintain my point of view.

You play your best guys, that's how it is. If he gets 15 mins a game solely backing up Davis, because you have other guys who are better on other positions then so be it.
But he'll probably get some scraps from Lebron as well.

If I were a betting guy I'd see as following

Davis 34 mpg
Lebron 34 mpg
Schroder 30 mpg
KCP 28 mpg
Harrell 28 mpg
Caruso 25 mpg
Kuzma 22 mpg
Matthews 20 mpg
Gasol 18 mpg
THT 15 mpg

What about Kostas?
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#22 » by ROballer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:15 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
ROballer wrote:How many minutes Kuzma gets is the least of my problems.

I always stated he won't get paid from the FO and I maintain my point of view.

You play your best guys, that's how it is. If he gets 15 mins a game solely backing up Davis, because you have other guys who are better on other positions then so be it.
But he'll probably get some scraps from Lebron as well.

If I were a betting guy I'd see as following

Davis 34 mpg
Lebron 34 mpg
Schroder 30 mpg
KCP 28 mpg
Harrell 28 mpg
Caruso 25 mpg
Kuzma 22 mpg
Matthews 20 mpg
Gasol 18 mpg
THT 15 mpg

What about Kostas?


He isn't even on the team yet. Let's cross that bridge if we get there.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#23 » by Slink » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:29 am

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ROballer wrote:It's the Clippers scenario again. Zubac is replaced by Gasol.

Gasol starts and sees 15-20 mins, the rest go to Harrell. Davis will not play much C in the RS at least, if at all.

The starting lineup will probably be KCP/Matthews/Lebron/Davis/Gasol. But 2 guys(Matthews and Gasol) are default starters and will probably see less minutes overall than 3 bench guys(Schroder, Caruso and Harrell).

I think Schroder/Caruso/Kuzma/Harrell are locks to see major minutes together, and Vogel will probably stagger Lebrons and Davis' minutes together so one of them can be on the floor with the afromentioned 4-some for most of the game.


THT is also rumored to get rotation minutes this year.


I would try to get some burn out of Kostas as well, just to see how he's progressing.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#24 » by hazy_01 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:16 am

I have a feeling Kuz is going to thrive with the acquisition of Schroder & Harrell. He will have less pressure to score and create off the bench and will have more opportunities with his off-ball game
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#25 » by TheGOATWill » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:23 am

All minutes Lebron isn’t on the floor plus a few when Davis isn’t. Really hoping to see the bench unit of Schroeder, Caruso, Kuzma, Morris and Trez get some run together. I know the coaches like at least one of the horses on the court at all times but if that five is on the floor together it means things are going well. Also Kuzma should be the beneficiary of what I predict will be early load management by Bron and AD.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#26 » by TylersLakers » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:43 am

I'll be honest. Kuzma doesn't really fit on the team.. unless we start him.

PG: LeBron/Shroder/
SG: KCP/Caruso
SF: Kuzma/Matthews
PF: Davis/
C: Gasol/Harrell/

That would be the primary 9 guys getting minutes. Maybe Morris for 10-15 minutes a game in the regular season.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#27 » by MAMBAEMD » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:08 am

I don't really think it will matter if Kuz starts or not.
His fit on a team like this is questionable unless he starts shooting his 3s at a higher percentage.
He needs to become deadly from long range to have a future with this team.

Still, he will play significant minutes for us specially in the regular season because we will have to rest LBJ and AD.
Load management for the stars will benefit Kuz a lot I think.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#28 » by Vae Victus » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:25 am

Kuzma will get more SF mins next year. He's just too weak physically to play the 4, but he seems to have enough mobility to guard most SFs. There have been stretches where he plays damn solid D on the wing, so its a natural progression to start treating him more like a SF who's Lebron's primary backup and playing spot PF mins when the other team goes small. If Kuz can just improve his 3pt shooting, he'd get a fat deal next offseason.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#29 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:41 am

iamworthy wrote:They play two different positions. I assume Harrell will be the starting center.


LOL I get confused with this at times because I see people naming guys and listing them in wrong positions..

THT is a good example. I mean some list him as Center and got me confused I'm like WTF isn't he a SG and others list him as PG **** gets me even more confused lol

Same thing with Harrell some a putthing him in SF?PF and others say he is a Center WTF LOL
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#30 » by kblo247 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:19 am



That’s how he fits
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Post#31 » by kblo247 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:22 am

Slink wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
ROballer wrote:It's the Clippers scenario again. Zubac is replaced by Gasol.

Gasol starts and sees 15-20 mins, the rest go to Harrell. Davis will not play much C in the RS at least, if at all.

The starting lineup will probably be KCP/Matthews/Lebron/Davis/Gasol. But 2 guys(Matthews and Gasol) are default starters and will probably see less minutes overall than 3 bench guys(Schroder, Caruso and Harrell).

I think Schroder/Caruso/Kuzma/Harrell are locks to see major minutes together, and Vogel will probably stagger Lebrons and Davis' minutes together so one of them can be on the floor with the afromentioned 4-some for most of the game.


THT is also rumored to get rotation minutes this year.


I would try to get some burn out of Kostas as well, just to see how he's progressing.

Those two may get some time like Daniels, Cook, and Dudley got some. Bron and AD should sit some back to backs as should Marc. Hell kcp, caruso, and Kuz too from that long run because it’s so condensed. They shouldn’t crack regular rotation though. You also have to be realistic, someone is going to get sick with the flu and or COVID without the bubble, it’s only natural
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#32 » by Kobe>Jordan>God » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:47 pm

TylersLakers wrote:I'll be honest. Kuzma doesn't really fit on the team.. unless we start him.

PG: LeBron/Shroder/
SG: KCP/Caruso
SF: Kuzma/Matthews
PF: Davis/
C: Gasol/Harrell/

That would be the primary 9 guys getting minutes. Maybe Morris for 10-15 minutes a game in the regular season.


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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#33 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:09 pm

kblo247 wrote:

That’s how he fits


It's a good informative clip but I am not sure Kuzma was that consistent every game. I saw him shut down Westbrook 1 game, then got burned the next game he faced Russell. I really think the biggest problem is Anthony Davis' clear preference on playing PF instead of the center position, making it extremely difficult for Kyle to play more minutes.
Even versus Houston when the Rockets played small ball, I really thought it was a great chance for Kuzma to play more esp with Vogel not playing his 2 centers but Kyle only played 24.6 mins, with KCP,Rondo, Caruso and Green playing more minutes.
Another problem was he wasn't that prolific even when AD and/or Lebron was on the bench, I really thought he would blossomed next to Rondo but it didn't happen esp with James being extra aggressive when AD was on the bench.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#34 » by LakersSoul » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:05 am

ROballer wrote:If I were a betting guy I'd see as following

Davis 34 mpg
Lebron 34 mpg
Schroder 30 mpg
KCP 28 mpg
Harrell 28 mpg
Caruso 25 mpg
Kuzma 22 mpg
Matthews 20 mpg
Gasol 18 mpg
THT 15 mpg



I think you left out Kief:

Schroder(28), Caruso(24), THT(12)
KCP(24), Wes(19)
Bron(30), Kuz(22)
AD(34), Kief(16)
Harrell(28), Gasol(11)

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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#35 » by thomas1897 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 8:50 pm

Kuzma is a player that Lakers can afford to patiently wait on his development without losing anyone. NBA teams should have the draft, free agents and trades to build a championship team. This season Lebron is another year older and Kuzma should reduce some of the wear and tear on Lebron James playing too many minutes. The Lakers have traded a lot of assets acquiring AD; however the Lakers need a combination of some youth and experienced veterans to keep the winning tradition. The LA Lakers are tied with the Boston Celtics to have the most NBA Titles. Rob Pelinka has reconstructed this with youth and experienced veterans and two of the best NBA superstars who know how to win.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#36 » by thomas1897 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:44 pm

Kuzma can provide offense when Lebron needs rest or AD. The main principle is winning and whatever it takes to keep winning if Kuzma scores 1 or 51 points the Lakers are on point to win another title. It is the small non-statistical things that occur during a game that help the team and those occurrences do not always show up in the statistics. Keep winning Lakers.
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Re: How does Kuzma fit in the lineup with Harrell? 

Post#37 » by stan francisco » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:46 pm

You know that I predicted his breakthrough season last season.

It’ll be this one. Do people forget the way he played on offense before the injury?

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Having two bigs (4/5) both capable to play off the ball; fronting the defense and stretching it as well as backing their guy down is not exactly a problem. It only makes us more versatile.
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