Current roster

[Pharaoh]

Where did I say 1st rounders?

You asked this exact same thing in another thread and someone already listed the picks we’ve traded away this off-season. Overall, we’ve traded away 5-6 future picks. If you need another list, find the other one already provided.

Nah we're good.

Some of you guys talk about all these picks we've traded deliberately aren't clear and don't post the full details.

They're second round picks! But we'll leave out that little detail.

Y'all act like Weaver has mortgaged the future, screwed the cap, got "schooled" by other GMs in every deal...

All the gymnastics suggests he actually knows what he's doing, otherwise there's no need for it.

But when someone calls you few guys out on specifics you back peddle...funny how that works.

Essentially what Weaver has done, despite the gymnastics:

Luke, Brown, Wood, Snell, a bunch of 2nds and cap space for:

Bey, Stewart, Grant, Plumlee, Wright, Musa, Jackson and Okafor.

We're tanking, we're younger, we're younger, we're more athletic, more versatile and finally not chasing the 7th or 8th seed and a absolute ass whipping every year!

Don't like it? That's cool.

Someone needed to nuke this thing and Weaver did exactly that in less than 7 days!

That's progress.

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[potatoaim]

Where did I say 1st rounders?

You asked this exact same thing in another thread and someone already listed the picks we’ve traded away this off-season. Overall, we’ve traded away 5-6 future picks. If you need another list, find the other one already provided.

Nah we're good.

Some of you guys talk about all these picks we've traded deliberately aren't clear and don't post the full details.

They're second round picks! But we'll leave out that little detail.

Y'all act like Weaver has mortgaged the future, screwed the cap, got "schooled" by other GMs in every deal...

All the gymnastics suggests he actually knows what he's doing, otherwise there's no need for it.

But when someone calls you few guys out on specifics you back peddle...funny how that works.

Essentially what Weaver has done, despite the gymnastics:

Luke, Brown, Wood, Snell, a bunch of 2nds and cap space for:

Bey, Stewart, Grant, Plumlee, Wright, Musa, Jackson and Okafor.

We're tanking, we're younger, we're younger, we're more athletic, more versatile and finally not chasing the 7th or 8th seed and a absolute ass whipping every year!

Don't like it? That's cool.

Someone needed to nuke this thing and Weaver did exactly that in less than 7 days!

That's progress.

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Exactly. People have screamed for years to blow this up and Weaver straight up NUKED it. So what do people do? They still bitch. LOL. Then again, this is REALGM, and some people would still bitch if someone gave them a free meal.

[Pharaoh]

Where did I say 1st rounders?

You asked this exact same thing in another thread and someone already listed the picks we’ve traded away this off-season. Overall, we’ve traded away 5-6 future picks. If you need another list, find the other one already provided.

Nah we're good.

Some of you guys talk about all these picks we've traded deliberately aren't clear and don't post the full details.

They're second round picks! But we'll leave out that little detail.

Y'all act like Weaver has mortgaged the future, screwed the cap, got "schooled" by other GMs in every deal...

All the gymnastics suggests he actually knows what he's doing, otherwise there's no need for it.

But when someone calls you few guys out on specifics you back peddle...funny how that works.

Essentially what Weaver has done, despite the gymnastics:

Luke, Brown, Wood, Snell, a bunch of 2nds and cap space for:

Bey, Stewart, Grant, Plumlee, Wright, Musa, Jackson and Okafor.

We're tanking, we're younger, we're younger, we're more athletic, more versatile and finally not chasing the 7th or 8th seed and a absolute ass whipping every year!

Don't like it? That's cool.

Someone needed to nuke this thing and Weaver did exactly that in less than 7 days!

That's progress.

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Exactly. People have screamed for years to blow this up and Weaver straight up NUKED it. So what do people do? They still bitch. LOL. Then again, this is REALGM, and some people would still bitch if someone gave them a free meal.

We can argue why he's done all these gymnastics to get here but if Morey or Presti does the exact same thing it's assumed he's a genius that knows how to work...

Weaver is a rookie, has nothing to look at but the first assumption is he's a moron?

That's a leap!

Do people forget he was apparently this stud up and coming executive? Spent however long side by side with the "genius" that is Presti?

Or has the last 15 years conditioned so many of y'all to assume the absolute worst when it comes to this failing franchise.

In the space of 7 days he took a blow torch to this roster and so many are complaining about how and why and the moves he made to get exactly what we all should of wanted.

I have no idea why it's all been done this way, don't pretend to understand the salary cap gymnastics he's done but I look at the roster and see:

Hayes, Stewart, Sekou, Musa, Bey, Svi, Jackson all 23 years old or younger.

We ain't winning a damn thing when half the roster are essentially children.

NBA = No Boys Allowed!

Experience wins games. Always has.

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[LaSheed]

I didnt realize how in love people were the old trash roster we had lol.

[Piston Pete]

To be fair, the pick we threw in with Houston was a 1st rounder.

Despite the protections on it, we will be sending them our 1st rounder in 2026 or 2027.


That trade was just atrocious. Not only did they get the better player (Wood), they’ll get a 1st rounder on top of it.


Wood / 1st
For
Stewart / Wright

[The Moose]

https://www.nba.com/pistons/multimedia/2020-draft-pick-media-availability

They are doing a live press conference introducing the rookies of anyone is interested

[Kilo]

To be fair, the pick we threw in with Houston was a 1st rounder.

Despite the protections on it, we will be sending them our 1st rounder in 2026 or 2027.


That trade was just atrocious. Not only did they get the better player (Wood), they’ll get a 1st rounder on top of it.


Wood / 1st
For
Stewart / Wright

Wood agreed to sign with Houston outright. S&T was worked out afterwards for Houston's cap benefit - Detroit got a future SRP and stronger protections to do the S&T. If they balked at it, Wood would still be in Houston.

[thesack12]

To be fair, the pick we threw in with Houston was a 1st rounder.

Despite the protections on it, we will be sending them our 1st rounder in 2026 or 2027.


That trade was just atrocious. Not only did they get the better player (Wood), they’ll get a 1st rounder on top of it.


Wood / 1st
For
Stewart / Wright

Wood agreed to sign with Houston outright. S&T was worked out afterwards for Houston's cap benefit - Detroit got a future SRP and stronger protections to do the S&T. If they balked at it, Wood would still be in Houston.

You're are forgetting the part where Houston didn't have cap space, and only could have offered Wood the MLE to sign outright.

Also, in this equation is Detroit swallowing Delon Wright's $9 mil this year and $8.5 mil next year.

[Piston Pete]

Yeah, originally it was us getting Ariza and #16 for cap relief and a future 1st with protections.

We later added Wood for shots and giggles and moved some of the protections back a couple picks - big whoop. We basically got nothing for adding Wood and will end up conveying a 1st rounder to them eventually

[Pharaoh]

Yeah, originally it was us getting Ariza and #16 for cap relief and a future 1st with protections.

We later added Wood for shots and giggles and moved some of the protections back a couple picks - big whoop. We basically got nothing for adding Wood and will end up conveying a 1st rounder to them eventually

We gave them a heavily protected first in order to get Stewart. A first for a first.

We obviously weren't bringing back Wood for whatever reason but instead of letting him walk away for nothing we got a asset in return (Ariza who became Wright)

I fail to see the problem with the deal.

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[Piston Pete]

It’s really not that heavily protected.....

And Wood for Wright is laughable

[MotownMadness]

We need to move Blake and Rose somehow to balance things out. I can't figure out the front court unless Blake is really gonna start at C. Ideally you want Grant at the 4 with some small ball 5.

[Canadafan]

My brain hurts. We were losing Wood no matter what. We got Stewart for a first(maybe)
Going into this draft with just the #7 and coming out of it with Bey and Stewart feels good.
I think peeps were expecting us to try and get better this upcoming season but Weaver has us perfectly placed to take advantage of at least next year's ridiculously deep draft. And possible the next season. Either way Hayes+Bey+Sekou+Stewert+2021lotto pick+26year old Grant=a nice future. Lets gooooo!
Also, I wanted to keep Luke but most didnt cause he didnt align with our timeline. So bye bye Luke and Brown.

[Pharaoh]

It’s really not that heavily protected.....

And Wood for Wright is laughable

Noted that you would have preferred losing Wood for nothing at all.

Not that heavily protected? It's Lottery protected for SIX years!

Not sure what more protection you could want and at this point it seems you're just complaining for the sake of it.

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[Piston Pete]

Right.....and what are the chances we are in the lottery for 6 years??

Year 5 is top-13 protected
Year 6 is top-11 protected

Our young core now, plus at least 4 more lottery picks, we’re giving them a 1st rounder despite it being so “heavily protected”

[ChipButty]

It’s really not that heavily protected.....

And Wood for Wright is laughable

Noted that you would have preferred losing Wood for nothing at all.

Not that heavily protected? It's Lottery protected for SIX years!

Not sure what more protection you could want and at this point it seems you're just complaining for the sake of it.

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The trade based around Ariza (who we used to trade for Wright) and Isiah Stewart for a future first was already agreed in principle on draft day. Houston wanted Ariza off the books and we agreed to help them do it. That trade was fine. Executing the original trade means we can still trade for Wright.


The only thing we gained by adding Wood to the deal was slightly improved protections. I when I say slightly, I mean basically pointless. We did lose Wood for nothing.

2 sign-and-trade deals where we helped competing organizations get something they wanted (Houston - Wood; Denver $9.5M TPE) and we got nothing of significant value back either time. Obviously we are not privvy to the details, but the optics are bad, imo.

[vic]

I love everything Weaver did, except not keep Wood. I don’t believe Wood would have rejected more money to play here. Talent wins, plus he’s younger than Grant and he’s a unicorn big. No excuses.

I like Stewart too, but if you really think Stewart is that much better than Wood, at least get an extra draft pick for Wood because at least Wood has performed as a unicorn big on an NBA level on multiple teams (Milwaukee, New Orleans, Detroit). Houston knew what they were getting in Wood the whole NBA is excited about the weapon Houston just picked up but we want to act like it’s sour grapes

[LaSheed]

Lol its so easy to see.

This season Wood will be better than Stewart correct? No doubt about it.

Our goal is to get as many lottery balls as we possibly can to get a top 3 pick at minimum in 2021 correct? No doubt about it. Stewart helps us more than Wood does this season in that regard.

We are not winning a damn thing this season. Load management on Blake & Rose. Sit them on back to backs.

Sit back. Watch us compete, play hard, and lose. Just like the way we all have wanted for years.

The pick isn't unprotected like Brooklyn was years back. Basically ties our hands for years of trading our pick. Just like it should be.

Relax. Weaver did wonders this off-season.

[Piston Pete]

That’s the issue though.

Getting worse, fine.

But you can do that without giving 5-6 picks away and hard-capping the team for 2 years.

[vege]

To be fair, the pick we threw in with Houston was a 1st rounder.

Despite the protections on it, we will be sending them our 1st rounder in 2026 or 2027.


That trade was just atrocious. Not only did they get the better player (Wood), they’ll get a 1st rounder on top of it.


Wood / 1st
For
Stewart / Wright

Wood agreed to sign with Houston outright. S&T was worked out afterwards for Houston's cap benefit - Detroit got a future SRP and stronger protections to do the S&T. If they balked at it, Wood would still be in Houston.

We also sent them a 2nd for cash in the original trade. This trade was a joke, I've been saying it since it happened and I was loled by people here for saying it. I'm glad more people can see how bad that trade was, the other trades we did were also brutal for us.