Are we better than the Hawks?

Red_Claw · Post #81 » by **Red_Claw** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:01 am

nabbs wrote:The Hawks best lineups of 2 way guys is questionable. It's probably like this assuming Trae is in:

Trae/Bogdan/Hunter/Gallo/Okongwu?

That's tough. Hunter and Okongwu are by far the best defenders but Okongwu is a rookie. Trae and Bogdan isn't really an idea defensive tandem at the POA. It's tough.

What happened to clint capela? Okongwu probably has the most potential but Capela is the best player overall right now.

lobosloboslobos · Post #82 » by **lobosloboslobos** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:50 am

this is not an acceptable question

nabbs · Post #83 » by **nabbs** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:27 am

Red_Claw wrote:
nabbs wrote:The Hawks best lineups of 2 way guys is questionable. It's probably like this assuming Trae is in:

Trae/Bogdan/Hunter/Gallo/Okongwu?

That's tough. Hunter and Okongwu are by far the best defenders but Okongwu is a rookie. Trae and Bogdan isn't really an idea defensive tandem at the POA. It's tough.

What happened to clint capela? Okongwu probably has the most potential but Capela is the best player overall right now.

Hmmm I do agree but I just dont think you're drafting a rookie that high and not giving him reps? You're probably right but I wonder what they do with Capela

Inevitable · Post #84 » by **Inevitable** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:36 am

No. Hawks are going to be sneaky good if healthy. Our offense is gunna be anemic and our defense will fall off a little.

Parataxis · Post #85 » by **Parataxis** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:41 am

Steelo Green wrote:
Go throughout the history of the league. Which team without a superstar goes to the finals? Before you mention Detroit, they have 2 hall of famers and arguably the GOAT defensive player with two other all stars. Their amalgamation of talent was enough to surpass superstars and again is the exception to the rule.

I mean the most recent team without a superstar that made the finals which comes to mind is Miami. 2020. (And no, Jimmy Butler is not a superstar)

Steelo Green · Post #86 » by **Steelo Green** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:07 am

Parataxis wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:
Go throughout the history of the league. Which team without a superstar goes to the finals? Before you mention Detroit, they have 2 hall of famers and arguably the GOAT defensive player with two other all stars. Their amalgamation of talent was enough to surpass superstars and again is the exception to the rule.

I mean the most recent team without a superstar that made the finals which comes to mind is Miami. 2020. (And no, Jimmy Butler is not a superstar)

Jimmy isn’t a superstar?

3x all nba and 4x defensive team along with 5 time all star in his prime who is a top 10 player is not a superstar?

Why because it doesn’t fit your narrative?

If people consider Vince a superstar, how is Jimmy not one, at least this year with the step he has taken.

NotMyKawhi · Post #87 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:40 am

Steelo Green wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:
Go throughout the history of the league. Which team without a superstar goes to the finals? Before you mention Detroit, they have 2 hall of famers and arguably the GOAT defensive player with two other all stars. Their amalgamation of talent was enough to surpass superstars and again is the exception to the rule.

I mean the most recent team without a superstar that made the finals which comes to mind is Miami. 2020. (And no, Jimmy Butler is not a superstar)

Jimmy isn’t a superstar?

3x all nba and 4x defensive team along with 5 time all star in his prime who is a top 10 player is not a superstar?

Why because it doesn’t fit your narrative?

If people consider Vince a superstar, how is Jimmy not one, at least this year with the step he has taken.

he's def a superstar. He shoots a very high percentage, good passer, great team player, elite defense, clutch af. He was the most consistent, clutch player when we played Philly #facts.

If Kawhi doesn't hit that shot? Jimmy would have been the star last year if they pulled it out in overtime. Took Minny to the playoffs before that.

He's just a winner. Top 10 player imo

casual_raps_fan · Post #88 » by **casual_raps_fan** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:45 am

We have to watch how the season unravels to know for sure but the Raptors 4 best players from last season are still here so I would think they end with a better record than the Hawks. The only way I see the Raptors lower than the Hawks is if Lowry regresses a lot or we catch the injury bug.

sca · Post #89 » by **sca** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:55 am

Steelo Green wrote:
sca wrote:BTW it irks me that the OP has Gallo coming off the bench. He’s arguably the second best player on the Hawks roster. He’ll most likely not come off the bench.

GM already said he’s coming off the bench.

Wow, apparently it’s true. I wouldn’t have expected that. Thanks.

alan_156 · Post #90 » by **alan_156** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:59 am

We're going to struggle to score. Our primary scoring options are from the perimeter, we don't have any inside scoring presence.

iBall101 · Post #91 » by **iBall101** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:44 am

Yeah, big factors are chemistry and experience. Hawks still have to figure out their chemistry with a lot of new players and Trae has to share the ball more.

akawsi31 · Post #92 » by **akawsi31** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:15 pm

100% true, their production won't drop as much as others believe it will.

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Ramed Nazored · Post #93 » by **Ramed Nazored** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:35 pm

Lol - Pooh Jeter going back and retroactively and-1'ing my posts about the raps being better than the Hawks. What a sad man.

Season's not over yet buddy. Talk to me when it is.

Let's not forgot your insistence that LAST YEARS version of the nets (missing Kyrie, Durant, Dinwiddie, Prince, DJ, etc) were a more talented team than the raptors, and would knock them out in RD 1.

Those that live in glass houses ...

Steelo Green · Post #94 » by **Steelo Green** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:48 pm

There was a lot of vitriol directed at OP, I feel they had a valid discussion point to bring up.

We should be open to all perspectives.

Basketball_Jones · Post #95 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 11:19 pm

Yes. We beat Brooklyn

Morse Code · Post #96 » by **Morse Code** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 11:29 pm

Not sure why everyone gave dude so much hate for his opinion in the first place. It was clear to most of us that they would at least be comparable in the standings. As it stands he’s currently correct and people treated him like he was out of his mind. The raptor fan pride can get in the way of objective views sometimes.

KL78192020 · Post #97 » by **KL78192020** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 11:50 pm

this thread is quite entertaining to read lol. So sure the Raptors were so much better than the Hawks.

720 · Post #98 » by **720** » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:01 am

Both eastern conference juggernauts will be battling it out for the 6th seed this season imo.

KrazyP · Post #99 » by **KrazyP** » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:13 am

720 wrote:Both eastern conference juggernauts will be battling it our for the 6th seed this season imo.

70% of the league should tank for a top 5 pick.

720 · Post #100 » by **720** » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:20 am

KrazyP wrote:
720 wrote:Both eastern conference juggernauts will be battling it our for the 6th seed this season imo.

70% of the league should tank for a top 5 pick.

Maybe, but not us. We have a team full of champions.