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Post#201 » by phillynative » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:07 am

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Honestly it’s laughable. Jrue’s best season was playing with Rondo, a real PG. what moves or counter moves are Jrue known for?

I understand you think Jrue is a better player, and I agree but we don’t have to downplay Maxey or build Jrue up into something he’s not.


lol Jrue is a combo guard of course he's going to slide to the 2 for Rondo whos a pure point.
You can feel its laughable all you want but jrue has alway been a good ball handler never mentioned he was better than anyone though.I just compared the two because they are both combo guards who played off the ball their one year in school.

When i say counter moves I mean craftyness with the ball for example ; crossovers, hesi's , in&out, behind the back, spins ect. Jrue was never explosive but he was always crafty with the ball even when he was a raw offensive player as a 19 y.o rookie. When I watch Maxey I see more of a initial quick first step and slashing rather than shiftiness and ball on the string.



Agree to disagree, I feel like Maxey has the shiftiness your discribing and Jrue doesn’t. I think Jrue uses his body more than craftiness with the ball.


Then lets agree to disagree. Plenty big guards use their body, Harden for example also uses his body doesnt mean hes not shifty.
Maxey is more of a crafty finisher than crafty ball handler from what i have seen
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Post#202 » by Young22 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:04 am

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lol Jrue is a combo guard of course he's going to slide to the 2 for Rondo whos a pure point.
You can feel its laughable all you want but jrue has alway been a good ball handler never mentioned he was better than anyone though.I just compared the two because they are both combo guards who played off the ball their one year in school.

When i say counter moves I mean craftyness with the ball for example ; crossovers, hesi's , in&out, behind the back, spins ect. Jrue was never explosive but he was always crafty with the ball even when he was a raw offensive player as a 19 y.o rookie. When I watch Maxey I see more of a initial quick first step and slashing rather than shiftiness and ball on the string.



Agree to disagree, I feel like Maxey has the shiftiness your discribing and Jrue doesn’t. I think Jrue uses his body more than craftiness with the ball.


Then lets agree to disagree. Plenty big guards use their body, Harden for example also uses his body doesnt mean hes not shifty.
Maxey is more of a crafty finisher than crafty ball handler from what i have seen



Jrue is not as big or strong or fast or the shooter or the dribbler or has the body control that Harden has. But your right plenty of big guards are shifty, Jrue really isn’t. Jrue does his damage with his size.

I see Maxey more as E.Bledsoe, hopefully his jumper is better.
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Post#203 » by blargh » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:05 am

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I don’t watch much college basketball and never heard of Maxey before the draft. After watching some YouTube videos, his three point shot doesn’t look good. It looks like a low release push shot. Trying to fix his shot scares me, and keeping his shot as is, just doesn’t look like it will be effective long term.

Looking at the relationship between free throw percentage and three point potential, I wonder if it applies with his Maxey. His three point shot looks like it’s not viable without adjusting his form.

Anybody else think his form is bizzare?


10 years ago, it would have been considered a problem, but steph curry has changed that perception somewhat, particularly for lead ball handlers. The advantage of the low starting point on the shot is you can get it off more quickly off the dribble, in one motion. This disadvantage obviously is that it’s easier to block, but Curry negated that by extending his range beyond what people thought possible. Now you have more kids emulating that push shot, and you even have some pros adjusting towards more of a quicker 1-motion stroke. It’s a little funny that Seth Curry actually has a more traditional shooting form.

It remains to be seen how it will all work out for Maxey.
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Post#204 » by phillynative » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:09 am

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Agree to disagree, I feel like Maxey has the shiftiness your discribing and Jrue doesn’t. I think Jrue uses his body more than craftiness with the ball.


Then lets agree to disagree. Plenty big guards use their body, Harden for example also uses his body doesnt mean hes not shifty.
Maxey is more of a crafty finisher than crafty ball handler from what i have seen



Jrue is not as big or strong or fast or the shooter or the dribbler or has the body control that Harden has. But your right plenty of big guards are shifty, Jrue really isn’t. Jrue does his damage with his size.

I see Maxey more as E.Bledsoe, hopefully his jumper is better.


The Harden reference was obviously an example of big, strong crafty ball handlers and not a comparison for jrue.

Bledsoe is a slasher from the guard position so I can see that comparison for Maxey though bledsoe was stronger, quicker and more explosive. They are sort of the opposite of shifty, they have one speed and dont change speed much or use advanced dribble moves(sometimes they dont have to)to get to their spots on the floor.

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Post#205 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:26 am

If the defender has to stay close at him, he will be able to blow past his man. It’s that simple.

If he can’t make the defender pay and the defender will just sag off him (see Ben Simmons), then he’s not going to score more than 17ppg even if he’s an ALL NBA team member.
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Post#206 » by PhillyPhilly » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:28 am

Are folks STILL arguing about Maxey comparisons? SMDH :lol: :lol: :lol: the truth about the kid will come to light when he steps on the floor...so why get so emotional about it? Imo he can be another Mitchell or he could be a Wesley Matthews average type of player. I just hope the kid works hard and becomes the best player he can be...that's all.
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Post#207 » by phillynative » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:06 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:Are folks STILL arguing about Maxey comparisons? SMDH :lol: :lol: :lol: the truth about the kid will come to light when he steps on the floor...so why get so emotional about it? Imo he can be another Mitchell or he could be a Wesley Matthews average type of player. I just hope the kid works hard and becomes the best player he can be...that's all.


The season hasnt started yet ,recently drafted rookie ofcourse fans are going to take a crack at comparisons , nothing new here.

I know summer league is trash but i wouldnt have mind seeing him with the ball in his hand , high usage and jacking up shots.
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Post#208 » by mithrandir17 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:27 pm

There will be preseason games on dec 11 to 19. It will probably like exhibition games for the starters/rotation guys in the first half then the second half will be like summer league where end of roster guys will take it as audition games.
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Post#209 » by phillynative » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:22 pm

For whats its worth recently he has personaly compared or moulded his game after CJ Mccollum in interviews. I was a little surprised since they play differently but Maxey has potential. Cj came into the league as a very good shooter and ball handler but that was after 3 years of seasoning in school so who knows.
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Post#210 » by freshie2 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:29 pm

The work ethic appears to be solid and he had some promising performances as a freshman. Hopefully he turns into a solid contributor or key asset. I'm optimistic based on what I've seen so far.
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Post#211 » by blargh » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:38 pm

He’s got really nice touch around the rim, but his drives are all one speed, one direction. I’d like to see the coaches work with him on a change-of-direction jump stop: that seems like a nice attainable improvement that would unlock a lot of versatility in his offense, given what he’s already good at.
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Post#212 » by Iverson Armband » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:36 pm

blargh wrote:He’s got really nice touch around the rim, but his drives are all one speed, one direction. I’d like to see the coaches work with him on a change-of-direction jump stop: that seems like a nice attainable improvement that would unlock a lot of versatility in his offense, given what he’s already good at.


Agree with this, and also agree with another poster who said he hasn’t shown much dribble creativity. But Ben Simmons has no dribble creativity either outside of a basic spin, and yet there’s people who are still hellbent on him being a PG because he can dribble well for being 6’10”, so there’s that.
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Post#213 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:03 pm

76ciology wrote:If the defender has to stay close at him, he will be able to blow past his man. It’s that simple.

If he can’t make the defender pay and the defender will just sag off him (see Ben Simmons), then he’s not going to score more than 17ppg even if he’s an ALL NBA team member.


Defenders usually don't sag off players who they think can punish them with dribble penetration.

The reason guys like Ben Simmons, Rajon Rondo, and Lonzo Ball get the sag-off treatment is because they can neither shoot or score off the dribble. Scoring off the dribble is certainly no issue for Maxey.
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Post#214 » by HotelVitale » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:34 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:Are folks STILL arguing about Maxey comparisons? SMDH :lol: :lol: :lol: the truth about the kid will come to light when he steps on the floor...so why get so emotional about it? Imo he can be another Mitchell or he could be a Wesley Matthews average type of player. I just hope the kid works hard and becomes the best player he can be...that's all.


Wes Matthews was a starter for good teams for 10 years straight and he had VORPs around 2 for his peak, that sounds closer to the ceiling than the floor for Maxey. It’s very rare a player taken in the 20s is fully expected to be at worst an average starter.

(Also if you don’t like talking about prospects and trying to project them...you might want to stay off threads about prospects who haven’t played a game yet.)
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Post#215 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:57 pm

Clearly a gym rat. Non-stop training and repetition shooting.

Looking fit and his shot appears to be coming along. Too early for expectations, but his commitment to advancing his game is admirable.

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Post#216 » by Stanford » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:19 pm

Have you guys heard that Tyrese Maxey wakes up at 6am to go to the gym?
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Post#217 » by LloydFree » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:27 pm

Stanford wrote:Have you guys heard that Tyrese Maxey wakes up at 6am to go to the gym?

He said 5:00am.
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Post#218 » by Kobblehead » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:27 pm

Dating back to the year 2000, the Sixers have only selected 4 teenagers that could score off the dribble (Williams, Holiday, Fultz, and now Maxey).
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Post#219 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:41 pm

More important than anything, he needs to get comfortable on the defensive scheme. I feel like that’s one of the biggest hurdles for rookies and often keeps them on the bench, especially in playoffs.
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Post#220 » by Sixersftw » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:45 pm

Stanford wrote:Have you guys heard that Tyrese Maxey wakes up at 6am to go to the gym?

At one point in a scrimmage, sources said, Butler Maxey turned to GM Scott Layden Elton Brand and screamed, "You (bleeping) need me. You can't win without me." Butler Maxey left teammates and coaches largely speechless. He dominated the gym in every way. JimmyTyrese's back.
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