Fake Trade Thread #3

Post #501 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:21 am

MasterIchiro wrote:On that note. I'm taking a break from this board. I will be reading but not commenting. I remain positive and optimistic and quite frankly just talking about any of this stuff right now is draining.

Not everybody gets what they want.

And yet some of us do!!!

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316Hornets · Post #502 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:24 am

Braggins wrote:
316Hornets wrote:It's weird how everybody thinks the team sucks, yet love Monk and Miles.

The reason we have such a putrid point differential is mostly due to Monk, Miles, Bacon. Some of this boards favorite players.

I don't think anyone on the forum thinks Monk or Miles are actually good players right now. People want to keep them around because they are young and talented enough to try to develop.

You compared LaMelo Ball to Luka Doncic, so I don't really think you can criticize anyone for overrating young players.

Speaking of mental gymnastics.... the only comparison I made was that they both played professional ball. Vague insults are trash.

SWedd523 · Post #503 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am

I thought that was fairly direct

316Hornets · Post #504 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:45 am

SWedd523 wrote:I thought that was fairly direct

He said I compared LaMelo to Luka without providing any context, then criticized me for it. When my only comparison was that they both played professional ball.

It was an attempt to make me look foolish without providing any context. Do you understand now or do I need to dumb it down more?

Post #505 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:59 am

Let's take it down a few notches folks.

SWedd523 · Post #506 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:13 am

Yes please dumb it down a few more notches

James Gatz · Post #507 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:56 am

316Hornets wrote:It's weird how everybody thinks the team sucks, yet love Monk and Miles.

The reason we have such a putrid point differential is mostly due to Monk, Miles, Bacon. Some of this boards favorite players.

fwiw I think we will be bad and I don't like Miles, Monk, or Bacon.

Anyways, to get things back on track. Would people do a Bridges for Reddish swap?

Post #508 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:05 am

SWedd523 wrote:Yes please dumb it down a few more notches

People can express whatever opinion they want about the team. I was more referring to the back and forth stuff that was getting personal, not necessary.

MasterIchiro · Post #509 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:07 pm

Proposed on the trade board. Hayward for Wiggins + Wiseman. Hornets extend the rebuild.

KingExecutive · Post #510 » by **KingExecutive** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:53 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Proposed on the trade board. Hayward for Wiggins + Wiseman. Hornets extend the rebuild.

Back to reality...

Thoughts on a Monk and Richaun Holmes swap? Charlotte would need to add more value I think, but it would allow each team to take a flyer on expiring deals.

Does the Vernon Carey deal nix any idea of a big man trade?

James Gatz · Post #511 » by **James Gatz** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:57 pm

KingExecutive wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Proposed on the trade board. Hayward for Wiggins + Wiseman. Hornets extend the rebuild.

Back to reality...

Thoughts on a Monk and Richaun Holmes swap? Charlotte would need to add more value I think, but it would allow each team to take a flyer on expiring deals.

Does the Vernon Carey deal nix any idea of a big man trade?

I'd be more interested in Bridges for either Jackson Hayes or Goga.

MasterIchiro · Post #512 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:36 pm

KingExecutive wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Proposed on the trade board. Hayward for Wiggins + Wiseman. Hornets extend the rebuild.

Back to reality...

Thoughts on a Monk and Richaun Holmes swap? Charlotte would need to add more value I think, but it would allow each team to take a flyer on expiring deals.

Does the Vernon Carey deal nix any idea of a big man trade?

The Carey contract nixes a deal for a big man on Holmes' tier. Our targets are Turner, maybe Jarett Allen, maybe Collins, maybe Drummond, a rung or two above Holmes.

Would consider Bagley for Monk though.

JMAC3 · Post #513 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:55 pm

Are we sure Turner is good? He seems like a good video game player, but his advanced stats are kinda meh

1.0 VORP
Only had 31 dunks last season- super low for a center. 42% of the total shots he took were outside the three point line. I think a rim running center would be a better fit with our current pieces, Turner and PJ provide very similar offense.

Compared to Cody with 63 Dunks. Cody also had better per 36 numbers.

I know most of us think Cody is an overpay at 15 million, how would we feel about Turner at 18 million?

MasterIchiro · Post #514 » by **MasterIchiro** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 11:46 am

JMAC3 wrote:Are we sure Turner is good? He seems like a good video game player, but his advanced stats are kinda meh

1.0 VORP
Only had 31 dunks last season- super low for a center. 42% of the total shots he took were outside the three point line. I think a rim running center would be a better fit with our current pieces, Turner and PJ provide very similar offense.

Compared to Cody with 63 Dunks. Cody also had better per 36 numbers.

I know most of us think Cody is an overpay at 15 million, how would we feel about Turner at 18 million?

Turner shares the floor with Sabonis. He's playing out of position at power forward so they use him to stretch the floor. The dunks go more to Sabonis.

Are we sure Turner doesn't have strong defense stats?

Post #515 » by **Diop** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:00 pm

i did see some pacer fans complaining that Turner can be a little soft

LofJ · Post #516 » by **LofJ** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:19 pm

I was looking over league rosters and noticed that most teams only have one decent big. There are only a handful of teams with quality big depth. If a big goes down from an injury, expiring guys like Zeller will have some value.

Mitch seems allergic to trading players for value though, so I have low expectations.

Chapelchilla · Post #517 » by **Chapelchilla** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:36 pm

I think Zeller, Monk and Rozier all could be moved this year and net us something decent in return.

Soul Rebel · Post #518 » by **Soul Rebel** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:40 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:I think Zeller, Monk and Rozier all could be moved this year and net us something decent in return.

I definitely feel that Zeller and one of Rozier/Graham get moved by the deadline, and Bridges before Monk now that GH is here.

Monk has too much potential and what if the switch finally goes fully on this year? He doesn't turn 23 until February and has all the tools to be a really good SG in this league. Some guys just take longer to adapt to the transition from college and I'm really, really hoping this is the case for him.

GiggitySmalls · Post #519 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:30 pm

Would that get us turner? If it could we should

LofJ · Post #520 » by **LofJ** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:49 pm

We aren't going to pay both Graham and Monk with Rozier on the roster. Someone has to go before the deadline. I think it will be Monk unfortunately because I doubt our ability to move Rozier for value (unless the Knicks save us).

Regardless I think our best trade packages are either Zeller + Monk or Rozier + Bridges. I'd prefer to make the latter available, but the former likely has more value throughout the league.