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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1161 » by Andi Obst » Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:01 pm

Chi town wrote:Trae gives it all up on D. Worst in the league. Everyone said ATL was going to be great last season and they sucked.


Some people thought they might make the playoffs, nobody expected them to be great. That's just wrong. They had a super young team which got absolutely destroyed in the non-Trae minutes.

He'd obviously be by far the best asset on our team.
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Post#1162 » by sco » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:50 pm

With the Vonleh signing, I imagine it signals a likely trade or buyout to free up a roster spot (or he literally had no takers and a camp deal was all he could find and he took it). If not the latter, what do folks think is realistically in the works?
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Post#1163 » by Grodoboldo » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:03 pm

Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1164 » by exospheer » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:57 pm

ArtMorte wrote:
exospheer wrote:Can we trade for Cam Reddish? Hawks have too many guys, I think Reddish is going to ball.


Trading for a wing who shot 38% in his rookie season would be unnecessarily risky.


Check out his splits post New Year. Kid has improving and got over his injury. Think he is going to be a baller. His defense is already solid.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1165 » by ArtMorte » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:06 pm

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exospheer wrote:Can we trade for Cam Reddish? Hawks have too many guys, I think Reddish is going to ball.


Trading for a wing who shot 38% in his rookie season would be unnecessarily risky.


Check out his splits post New Year. Kid has improving and got over his injury. Think he is going to be a baller. His defense is already solid.


He would directly compete for minutes with the guy we just drafted fourth. It's just an unrealistic idea.
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Post#1166 » by ZOMG » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.


It's so weird people keep putting Lauri in these trade scenarios. There's been ZERO rumors about him being dangled by the Bulls - unlike, say, Zach or Wendell. Of course his trade value is low after last season, but then, so is Carter's.

What if I told you that... maybe the Bulls simply want to keep this guy for now?
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Post#1167 » by Grodoboldo » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:36 pm

ZOMG wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.


It's so weird people keep putting Lauri in these trade scenarios. There's been ZERO rumors about him being dangled by the Bulls - unlike, say, Zach or Wendell. Of course his trade value is low after last season, but then, so is Carter's.

What if I told you that... maybe the Bulls simply want to keep this guy for now?


If you told me that, I would tell you that if people write posts about the reigning two time MVP coming to a lottery team, I can write about trading an underachieving, but still somewhat promising player on the the last year of his deal before RFA.
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Post#1168 » by Jiipee84 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:19 am

Dez wrote:
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TheFinishSniper wrote:You see, that's kind of deal I can get behind.


How legit trade rumor that is?
I'm all in to trade Zach for PG but probably not for Westbrook.
But Zach for Kemba Walker or Ben Simmons gets my support


You didn't read it, it's talking about pairing Westbrook and LaVine not trading for each other.

Both ideas are bad.


If Bulls seriously wants Westbrook they probably have to trade Zach.
The fact is that you don't get allstar PG like Russell Westbrook in your team if you sent **** ( Felicio, Thad etc ) back to Rockets.
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Post#1169 » by Jiipee84 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:30 am

Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.


That trade is so dead as ever possible.
As cool it obviously would to see Lauri playing with Zion there is basically ZERO CHANCE for that coming true.

And why ?.
Because Zion is already Pelicans PF starter and if they want Lauri he'll be most likely center in Pelicans.
And as you perhaps already know Lauri is defensive liability WHO CAN'T PLAY CENTER at all.

And other fact which is against that trade is that Zion is only 6'7 tall which makes him too short to being full-time center.
Tell me how 6'7 tall center like Zion can guard 7'0 to 7'3 tall NBA bigs like Embiid,Porzingis, Jokic, Marjanovic, Vucevic, Wiseman, Valanciunas, Gasol.

There's already been some talk of that is Zion too heavy to have healthy NBA career without injury issues at some point.
I get that Zion is serious talent but get real and wake up to reality Zion will be great NBA player but he's PF now and always will be.
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Post#1170 » by Dez » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:56 am

Jiipee84 wrote:
Dez wrote:
Jiipee84 wrote:
How legit trade rumor that is?
I'm all in to trade Zach for PG but probably not for Westbrook.
But Zach for Kemba Walker or Ben Simmons gets my support


You didn't read it, it's talking about pairing Westbrook and LaVine not trading for each other.

Both ideas are bad.


If Bulls seriously wants Westbrook they probably have to trade Zach.
The fact is that you don't get allstar PG like Russell Westbrook in your team if you sent **** ( Felicio, Thad etc ) back to Rockets.


Westbrook is a horrible contract that won't net Houston any good assets, no way in hell would Chicago send LaVine.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1171 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:58 am

Jiipee84 wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.


That trade is so dead as ever possible.
As cool it obviously would to see Lauri playing with Zion there is basically ZERO CHANCE for that coming true.

And why ?.
Because Zion is already Pelicans PF starter and if they want Lauri he'll be most likely center in Pelicans.
And as you perhaps already know Lauri is defensive liability WHO CAN'T PLAY CENTER at all.

And other fact which is against that trade is that Zion is only 6'7 tall which makes him too short to being full-time center.
Tell me how 6'7 tall center like Zion can guard 7'0 to 7'3 tall NBA bigs like Embiid,Porzingis, Jokic, Marjanovic, Vucevic, Wiseman, Valanciunas, Gasol.

There's already been some talk of that is Zion too heavy to have healthy NBA career without injury issues at some point.
I get that Zion is serious talent but get real and wake up to reality Zion will be great NBA player but he's PF now and always will be.


I was thinking that on should play the 5 at defense, so he could play with Lauri.
But you're right, if they see him as a straight 4, they are incompatible.
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Post#1172 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:05 am

Holy crap, I just realized we could see all 19 players at camp..
White, Lavine, Porter, Markannen, Carter
Satoransky, Temple, Williams, Young, Gafford
Arciadiacono, Valentine, Mokoka, Hutch, Vonleh
Dotson, Norvell, Kornet, Felicio

I really hope we keep Vonleh and somehow find a way to flip Young, Sato for Dinwiddie with 3rd team involved, waive Kornet..
Dotson, Mokoka go to Gleague! We start season with full 15 players on roster..

Dinwiddie, Lavine, Porter, Markannen, Carter
White, Temple, Williams, Vonleh, Gafford
Arci, Norvell, Valentine, Hutch, Felicio
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Post#1173 » by qianlong » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:33 am

Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.

i think New Orleans is a team to keep in mind for the of position. All three players have some appeal while none being a star. Naw is interesting, however I doubt they would move him unless in a bigger deal.
Bledsoe is older and with a bigger and longer contract. I would consider him only if moving salary and some pick or young asset attached. Something like sato and Felicio for Bledsoe and a protected first.

The most interesting of the three is Ball. He is not great, but he is still young, improving, good passer and defender with size to switch on bigger players, improving shooter. I think he could be a piece moving forward for the PG position. I don't want to part ways with Lauri for him, but maybe a Young or Sato plus strongly protected first for him would be enough.

With Ball extension coming up and Bledsoe already on the books I doubt they want to keep both.
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Post#1174 » by Ctownbulls » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:45 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:I’d gamble on Westbrook but not giving up a first or anything of value. We’d be a playoff team and he’d play well with the shooting we have and a running mate like Zach. Think it stunts the growth of everyone potentially, including Zach
I haven't been paying attention to the Westbrook rumors but I'm assuming Houston would have to give up picks to trade him and not the other way around. Maybe I'm dead wrong.

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Post#1175 » by cjbulls » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:52 pm

ZOMG wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Would the Pelicans have interest in Markannen? They seriously need more shooting!
I'd probably flip him for NAW. I'm not such a Lonzo fan, but I suppose I'd accept him instead as well.
I could be persuaded into cleaning Bledsoe from their books for some draft compensation (yeah, I don't like him that much either, but I'm not as optimistic about our cap space next year's as some of you guys).
I won't include Thad in these trades because I don't think they need yet another non shooter, but if they did, he would actually be better for salary matching purposes.
So something like Markannen + Sato + filler (Kornet and Archi?) for Bledsoe + NAW + draft compensation.
Ball earns significantly more, so it would have to be Markannen + Sato + Felicio + fillers (Kornet and Arci?) for Ball + Bledsoe + draft compensation.

As I said, I don't particularly like Bledsoe or Ball, but I think Markannen doesn't have that many suitors, we could use more ball handlers and I don't think our capspace will be very useful next year.


It's so weird people keep putting Lauri in these trade scenarios. There's been ZERO rumors about him being dangled by the Bulls - unlike, say, Zach or Wendell. Of course his trade value is low after last season, but then, so is Carter's.

What if I told you that... maybe the Bulls simply want to keep this guy for now?


The issue is Lauri’s contract. He’s the only guy that can test the market next year, which makes the evaluation idea a bit more questionable.

If him and Wendell were flipped in draft/RFA year, you’d see the opposite
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Post#1176 » by sco » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:47 pm

I put this in another thread, but what about Lauri/Sato for Dinwiddie/Kurucs?
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Post#1177 » by othawhitemeat » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:18 pm

sco wrote:I put this in another thread, but what about Lauri/Sato for Dinwiddie/Kurucs?


I like Dinwiddie and Kurucs and understand Lauri did not play well last year but did play well in year 2. I would also ask for a 1st round pick since the Nets will be loaded and Lauri with right situation and if stays healthy could be a really good player. However, if they threw some sweetener in there I would be interested.
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Post#1178 » by MisterRoy » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:59 pm

The only way a Westbrook experiment works is if he embraces the team concept and isn't as selfish with the ball. We aren't going to make him the focal point in the offense and just surround him with shooters. This isn't Houston and he isn't Harden.


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Post#1179 » by StunnerKO » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:39 pm

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Post#1180 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:18 pm

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