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Post#1101 » by Norseman79 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:38 pm

thinktank wrote:The use of of initials in the NBA is out of control. Just type a guys name out, please!

Who is DJJ?

And why would I know his initials on a Wolves board?


Derrick Jones Jr.
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Post#1102 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:44 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
thinktank wrote:The use of of initials in the NBA is out of control. Just type a guys name out, please!

Who is DJJ?

And why would I know his initials on a Wolves board?


Derrick Jones Jr.

Not as good as Juancho.
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Post#1103 » by Heimdal » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:55 pm

Rubio 28 Russell 10 McLaughlin 10
Russell 20 Beasley 28
Edwards 18 Okogie 18 Culver 12
Juancho 24 Layman 16 Edwards 8
Towns 34 Davis 14

I'm eager to see who plays late in the 4th. Okogie or/and Beasley could be in.
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Post#1104 » by Norseman79 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:28 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
thinktank wrote:The use of of initials in the NBA is out of control. Just type a guys name out, please!

Who is DJJ?

And why would I know his initials on a Wolves board?


Derrick Jones Jr.

Not as good as Juancho.


I would have signed him as a 3, not 4. And honestly, I would say he is a bit undersized even for the 3.
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Post#1105 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:30 am

When does camp start? You have to think it's starting any day now.
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Post#1106 » by Merc_Porto » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:39 am

KGdaBom wrote:When does camp start? You have to think it's starting any day now.


Training camps open Tuesday, 01/12

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Post#1107 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am

This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1108 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:33 am

mercgold3 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:When does camp start? You have to think it's starting any day now.


Training camps open Tuesday, 01/12

Also:

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Thanks. I was wondering if they would still do a preseason. I desperately want to see Edwards matched up against NBA players.
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Post#1109 » by Dalvin » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:43 am

Am I the only one excited for a backcourt lineup of Rubio-Culver-Okogie? Just imagine they'll be able to lock down any point of attack from the the guards of the opposing team for 48 whole minutes with their rotation makes me want to see the games as soon as possible.

Once KAT-D'Lo-Beasley-Edwards 3 point shoots us into a sizeable lead. We let Rubio-Culver-Okogie lockdown any possible comeback attempt :nod:
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Post#1110 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:44 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Where you're fundamentally wrong is I believe most of the time one of those wings is going to be taller than Edwards Culver and Okogie.
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Post#1111 » by Slim Tubby » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:34 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Im tired of being told how to categorize the game by positional qualifications...or the lack of one. The game has been around a lot longer than the perceived notion of interchangeable positions based on athleticism in today’s NBA. Trends always revert back to the norm...and some things never change permanently even if you want them to.

The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

Rant over.


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1112 » by Norseman79 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:49 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Im tired of being told how to categorize the game by positional qualifications...or the lack of one. The game has been around a lot longer than the perceived notion of interchangeable positions based on athleticism in today’s NBA. Trends always revert back to the norm...and some things never change permanently even if you want them to.

The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

Rant over.


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This is so beautiful written. The game changed to protect soft ass stars like labia james. Officials are jokes, players are whiny ass bitches constantly, I don't mind dunkers and chuckers if it's done against legit defense and attacking the rim without having a foul called for being breathed on.

Let's not do the "Labia James" thing.
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Post#1113 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:25 am

Norseman79 wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.

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Im tired of being told how to categorize the game by positional qualifications...or the lack of one. The game has been around a lot longer than the perceived notion of interchangeable positions based on athleticism in today’s NBA. Trends always revert back to the norm...and some things never change permanently even if you want them to.

The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

Rant over.


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This is so beautiful written. The game changed to protect soft ass stars like labia james. Officials are jokes, players are whiny ass bitches constantly, I don't mind dunkers and chuckers if it's done against legit defense and attacking the rim without having a foul called for being breathed on.

You really blew it when you tried to label LeBron soft and using female body parts to disparage a man is some of the weakest BS out there.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1114 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:20 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.

I think Hernangomez is CLEARLY our starter at PF or big wing or whatever.


Then we're in trouble. He better learn how to block out and toughen up on the boards. He's so soft.
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Post#1115 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:25 am

Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

You got me excited with that lineup. I can see them try that late in games and we'll see. The best defense can be an exceptional offense.
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Post#1116 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:35 am

Calinks wrote:I don't think Rubio is going to fight being the 6th man. He will still get plenty of playtime and probably be in during the crucial moments of the game. Minutes will be crowded but I'm not too worried. There will likely be injuries, Beasley is very likely to be suspended for some games, there will also be some kind of load management for guys like Russell I bet so yea, Rubio will get several starts, a lot of guys will miss games or have reduced minutes for some games. There will be a lot of PT going around.


Still, Rubio needs to carry that 2nd unit. Playing Rubio and Beasley/Edwards on the 2nd unit gives us instant legitimacy. Get Culver, Layman/Hernangomez, and Davis in there and you have the makings of the best bench we've ever had.

D'Lo or Rubio have to be on the floor at all times I would think. This is getting more exciting by the moment!

The big question is how fast can Edwards pick up things.
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Post#1117 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:40 am

Dewey wrote:Ricky knows the scoop - they all talked prior to the trade to assure he is flexible. Beasley is likely happy to not be behind bars at the moment. Edwards don’t know what he don’t know. Okogie and Culver know roles to survive. I see no issue letting chips fall week by week and focus on chemistry rather than minutes. This isn’t a fairy tale where everyone is gonna be a winner winner chicken dinner


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1118 » by Nick K » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:54 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Im tired of being told how to categorize the game by positional qualifications...or the lack of one. The game has been around a lot longer than the perceived notion of interchangeable positions based on athleticism in today’s NBA. Trends always revert back to the norm...and some things never change permanently even if you want them to.

The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

Rant over.


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I love it. But the NBA pendulum will swing back at some time in the future to a more traditional game. We've gone through this before but not in quite the same way.

I'm hoping Vanderbilt makes it big. I don't care if he can't shoot the 3. We have plenty of other guys to do that. Just rim protect, run the floor, rebound like hell, and get the put backs.
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Post#1119 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:59 am

I didn't mention size.

Try again.
KGdaBom wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Where you're fundamentally wrong is I believe most of the time one of those wings is going to be taller than Edwards Culver and Okogie.


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Post#1120 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:07 am

The only thing I'm saying is that Gersson has openly stated that we are 1-3-1.

Whether you like it or not, that's his terminology.

I'm just fan dude, but its painful to read posts of 1,2,3,4,5 when that is not what our teams philosophy is about.

1,2,3,4,5 is like trying to get a square peg in a round hole.. we are 1-3-1 with interchangeable positions.
Slim Tubby wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.
Slim Tubby wrote:5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Im tired of being told how to categorize the game by positional qualifications...or the lack of one. The game has been around a lot longer than the perceived notion of interchangeable positions based on athleticism in today’s NBA. Trends always revert back to the norm...and some things never change permanently even if you want them to.

The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

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