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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1121 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:08 am

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Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.

I think Hernangomez is CLEARLY our starter at PF or big wing or whatever.


Then we're in trouble. He better learn how to block out and toughen up on the boards. He's so soft.

You and your unsubstantiated complaint about his deficiency that doesn't exist.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1122 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:11 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:I didn't mention size.

Try again.
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Rookie-Mistake wrote:This is where you and many other posters are fundamentally wrong.

We run a 1-3-1 system.

Bigs, Wings and a Lead Guard.

Essentially it is;

Kat

Wing, Wing, Wing (insert whatever name you want)

DLO/Ricky

The rest is depth. It does not get any more complicated than that.

Please no more 1,2,3,4,5 talk.

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Where you're fundamentally wrong is I believe most of the time one of those wings is going to be taller than Edwards Culver and Okogie.


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No need to try again. You're acting like a wing is a wing is a wing with no difference. One of our wings will be a Big Wing or perhaps you should call that by it's traditional name Power Forward.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1123 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:16 am

Whether you wanted us to draft Edwards or not isn't it just agony waiting to see him play for us?
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1124 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:30 am

Keep digging.

I didn't mention size or insinuated size.

Round 3?
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Rookie-Mistake wrote:I didn't mention size.

Try again.
KGdaBom wrote:Where you're fundamentally wrong is I believe most of the time one of those wings is going to be taller than Edwards Culver and Okogie.


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No need to try again. You're acting like a wing is a wing is a wing with no difference. One of our wings will be a Big Wing or perhaps you should call that by it's traditional name Power Forward.


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1125 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:53 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Keep digging.

I didn't mention size or insinuated size.

Round 3?
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Rookie-Mistake wrote:I didn't mention size.

Try again.

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No need to try again. You're acting like a wing is a wing is a wing with no difference. One of our wings will be a Big Wing or perhaps you should call that by it's traditional name Power Forward.


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To me you did insinuate it. You were insulting everybody who was talking about who will play the PF. To me that implied we wouldn't be putting a PF on the court.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1126 » by thinktank » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:13 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I think Hernangomez is CLEARLY our starter at PF or big wing or whatever.


Then we're in trouble. He better learn how to block out and toughen up on the boards. He's so soft.

You and your unsubstantiated complaint about his deficiency that doesn't exist.


Uh, yes it does.

Juancho is Charmin soft.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1127 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:53 pm

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Then we're in trouble. He better learn how to block out and toughen up on the boards. He's so soft.

You and your unsubstantiated complaint about his deficiency that doesn't exist.


Uh, yes it does.

Juancho is Charmin soft.

Not in the slightest.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1128 » by thinktank » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:09 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:You and your unsubstantiated complaint about his deficiency that doesn't exist.


Uh, yes it does.

Juancho is Charmin soft.

Not in the slightest.


Only 7.6 rebounds per 36.

VERY Negative defensive efficiency his entire career.

You are off your rocker.

He’s like a baby in the paint.

You’re gonna take a ton of heat for this take as the season progresses.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1129 » by Klomp » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:32 pm

Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.

I think Hernangomez is CLEARLY our starter at PF or big wing or whatever.


Then we're in trouble. He better learn how to block out and toughen up on the boards. He's so soft.

We're in trouble? No, we're a franchise still building up its roster.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1130 » by Norseman79 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

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The Lakers and Celtics of the 80’s both had lineups that were defined by traditional positional labels and both those teams would obliterate teams in today’s NBA. The current game is filled with 3-point chucking and slam dunks and that’s why the ratings continue to hit the $hitter faster than cranberries after Thanksgiving dinner.

This game needs a huge influx of its past...structural offense, emphasis on fundamentals and defense so intense it made you angry. It sure seemed to work for McHale, Worthy, Rodman, Malone and then Duncan. Of course, according to some, none of those guys could play in today’s NBA because they were all traditional 4’s.

I like Juancho and I hope Vanderbilt can show us something, but we’re all going to see firsthand this year how painful it can be without a true “4” on the court, especially on defense.

I truly miss 80’s NBA when I fell in love with the league. If I was younger than 20, the current version of the league wouldn’t keep my attention longer than a photo of Rosanne Barr in a bikini and the ratings say I’m not the only one disenfranchised. Throw in the recent trend of talent consolidation to larger markets and my personal interest is running on empty.

Rant over.


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This is so beautiful written. The game changed to protect soft ass stars like labia james. Officials are jokes, players are whiny ass bitches constantly, I don't mind dunkers and chuckers if it's done against legit defense and attacking the rim without having a foul called for being breathed on.

You really blew it when you tried to label LeBron soft and using female body parts to disparage a man is some of the weakest BS out there.


If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish. I didn't try to label him soft, he is soft. As for the rest of it...well, I will try to be more "sensitive" to woke people in my future posts. I hope you don't refer to people as "a**holes" then either, would hate for there to be a double standard. And I like Juancho, but pretending like he isn't soft is damaging your credibility. Normally I can disagree but understand where you are coming from, not on that.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1131 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:33 pm

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Uh, yes it does.

Juancho is Charmin soft.

Not in the slightest.


Only 7.6 rebounds per 36.

VERY Negative defensive efficiency his entire career.

You are off your rocker.

He’s like a baby in the paint.

You’re gonna take a ton of heat for this take as the season progresses.

I have my right to be right and you have your right to be wrong. :D
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1132 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:36 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:
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This is so beautiful written. The game changed to protect soft ass stars like labia james. Officials are jokes, players are whiny ass bitches constantly, I don't mind dunkers and chuckers if it's done against legit defense and attacking the rim without having a foul called for being breathed on.

You really blew it when you tried to label LeBron soft and using female body parts to disparage a man is some of the weakest BS out there.


If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish. I didn't try to label him soft, he is soft. As for the rest of it...well, I will try to be more "sensitive" to woke people in my future posts. I hope you don't refer to people as "a**holes" then either, would hate for there to be a double standard. And I like Juancho, but pretending like he isn't soft is damaging your credibility. Normally I can disagree but understand where you are coming from, not on that.

Best basketball player of all time. 6'7" 250 pounds of solid muscle. That is the opposite of soft. I don't consider Juancho soft in the slightest. If others disagree than they are all a holes. :lol:

Seriously if others consider Juancho soft they are just wrong not A holes. You referring to the best basketball player of all time as labia was absolutely sickening and calling him soft was incredibly ridiculous. I'm presuming you have never played against him or taken a charge from him making disgusting and idiotic comments like that.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1133 » by thinktank » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:38 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Not in the slightest.


Only 7.6 rebounds per 36.

VERY Negative defensive efficiency his entire career.

You are off your rocker.

He’s like a baby in the paint.

You’re gonna take a ton of heat for this take as the season progresses.

I have my right to be right and you have your right to be wrong. :D


Ok, buddy. Your takes are consistently really awful and on top of it you’re condescending.

That’s why you’re now on ignore.

:D
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1134 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:41 pm

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Only 7.6 rebounds per 36.

VERY Negative defensive efficiency his entire career.

You are off your rocker.

He’s like a baby in the paint.

You’re gonna take a ton of heat for this take as the season progresses.

I have my right to be right and you have your right to be wrong. :D


Ok, buddy. Your takes are consistently really awful and on top of it you’re condescending.

Is he a bruiser Pek type. No. I just don't see him as being soft in any way.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1135 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:43 pm

thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Only 7.6 rebounds per 36.

VERY Negative defensive efficiency his entire career.

You are off your rocker.

He’s like a baby in the paint.

You’re gonna take a ton of heat for this take as the season progresses.

I have my right to be right and you have your right to be wrong. :D


Ok, buddy. Your takes are consistently really awful and on top of it you’re condescending.

That’s why you’re now on ignore.

:D

Thank you.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1136 » by shrink » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:05 pm

Beasley will start (if he is available and not suspended). Rosas wants everyone to be happy, and it would make Beasley upset not to start. Coming off the bench is what frustrates him in Denver. Moreover, if you pay a player over the MLE, you look silly as a GM if you immediately make him a bench player because of overcrowding at a position.

Rubio though will close games, as he is the best complimentary player to any of our other three big name guards. He is also the only net positive player of the four, primarily because he’s light years ahead of the other three on defense.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1137 » by Dewey » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:11 pm

It’s a team game but let cut to the chase ... The PF position does not have to win games ... DLo and KAT are the two who need to show they can carry this team and draw a 2021 FA. The others have a much simpler role.

So two big ifs ... If everyone does their jobs we can make the playoffs. If there are chemistry issues or injuries it could spiral down again.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1138 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:43 pm

Dewey wrote:It’s a team game but let cut to the chase ... The PF position does not have to win games ... DLo and KAT are the two who need to show they can carry this team and draw a 2021 FA. The others have a much simpler role.

So two big ifs ... If everyone does their jobs we can make the playoffs. If there are chemistry issues or injuries it could spiral down again.

Last years horrible record was all about KAT not playing. This year we have KAT, Russell, Rubio, Beasley and Edwards was the #1 pick in the draft. We should expect to get good play from him. Juancho shot ridiculously well last year. Maybe he can do it again. Rumor has it Vanderbilt is now ready to be a contributor. Culver got the yips last year. Maybe he got over them. Layman is a super athletic exciting basketball player. I see lots of reason for optimism.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1139 » by Norseman79 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:51 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:You really blew it when you tried to label LeBron soft and using female body parts to disparage a man is some of the weakest BS out there.


If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish. I didn't try to label him soft, he is soft. As for the rest of it...well, I will try to be more "sensitive" to woke people in my future posts. I hope you don't refer to people as "a**holes" then either, would hate for there to be a double standard. And I like Juancho, but pretending like he isn't soft is damaging your credibility. Normally I can disagree but understand where you are coming from, not on that.

Best basketball player of all time. 6'7" 250 pounds of solid muscle. That is the opposite of soft. I don't consider Juancho soft in the slightest. If others disagree than they are all a holes. :lol:

Seriously if others consider Juancho soft they are just wrong not A holes. You referring to the best basketball player of all time as labia was absolutely sickening and calling him soft was incredibly ridiculous. I'm presuming you have never played against him or taken a charge from him making disgusting and idiotic comments like that.


Michael Jordan is the GOAT. Don't embarrass yourself putting James ahead of him, I would put Kobe ahead of James. Soft has nothing to do with size. Ben Wallace, Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman, Patrick Ewing, Michael Jordan...those are examples of not soft players. James is a skilled and physically gifted basketball player, but he is soft, when teams body him hard and put him down he gets shaken and backs off. Problem is, the NBA decided they need to "protect" stars, that is also a product of today's soft culture. Not the thread for this discussion though.


As I have said, the current roster isn't good enough and is incredibly unbalanced. However, it is definitely better than what it has been.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1140 » by KGdaBom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:02 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish. I didn't try to label him soft, he is soft. As for the rest of it...well, I will try to be more "sensitive" to woke people in my future posts. I hope you don't refer to people as "a**holes" then either, would hate for there to be a double standard. And I like Juancho, but pretending like he isn't soft is damaging your credibility. Normally I can disagree but understand where you are coming from, not on that.

Best basketball player of all time. 6'7" 250 pounds of solid muscle. That is the opposite of soft. I don't consider Juancho soft in the slightest. If others disagree than they are all a holes. :lol:

Seriously if others consider Juancho soft they are just wrong not A holes. You referring to the best basketball player of all time as labia was absolutely sickening and calling him soft was incredibly ridiculous. I'm presuming you have never played against him or taken a charge from him making disgusting and idiotic comments like that.


Michael Jordan is the GOAT. Don't embarrass yourself putting James ahead of him, I would put Kobe ahead of James. Soft has nothing to do with size. Ben Wallace, Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman, Patrick Ewing, Michael Jordan...those are examples of not soft players. James is a skilled and physically gifted basketball player, but he is soft, when teams body him hard and put him down he gets shaken and backs off. Problem is, the NBA decided they need to "protect" stars, that is also a product of today's soft culture. Not the thread for this discussion though.


As I have said, the current roster isn't good enough and is incredibly unbalanced. However, it is definitely better than what it has been.

Nobody is embarrassing themselves calling Jordan or James the GOAT. Having Kobe in your top 10 to me is very embarrassing. Calling James soft is very embarrassing.

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