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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1161 » by KGdaBom » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:37 pm

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:I think the Starting/Ending lineup will be :

(Best Playmaker)
Rubio

(Three Best 3-Point Shooters not named Towns)
Russell
Beasley
Hernangomez

(Best Player)
Towns

Initial focus will be Rubio to Town to take advantage of single coverage inside with the three shooter making them pay for any attempts to double Towns.

On defense they will switch everything and substitutions will be based on foul trouble.

If no foul trouble, Russell or Rubio will be the first to rest and their minute will be staggered until the end of the game.

Edwards, Culver, Okogie, will be coming off the bench until they become one of the best 3-Point shooters not named Towns.

This seems to be consistent with the roster and Rosas/Saunders stated plan

With Rubio now being an above average 3 point shooter that makes 5 out of 5 above average 3 point shooters in our starting lineup.
I think Beasley playing the medium sized wing gets absolutely destroyed on Defense though. Maybe he guards the PG on defense and Rubio and Russell take the SG/SF assignments. Edwards was the #1 overall pick in the draft. It would be shocking if he's not starting after 20 games.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1162 » by TheDominator273 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:03 pm

I think our wing depth is going to be very handy this season which is certain to have guys miss games for illness more frequently than past years as a complete precaution. Having a deep roster of NBA caliber players benefits teams anyways on the regular season but I think it's especially important this season.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1163 » by Norseman79 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:48 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Nobody is embarrassing themselves calling Jordan or James the GOAT. Having Kobe in your top 10 to me is very embarrassing. Calling James soft is very embarrassing.


I would agree to disagree. Even professional commentators have made that comment about James...guys like Charles Barkley. Have I played against James, no. Would I take a charge from him, no. Would I step aside and try to foul him (not cheap shot) so hard he would never want to try to go to the basket again? Absolutely. That's what is missing in the current game. Entitled, pampered, and protected players have ruined it, not even saying it's their fault that they are soft, it's just what the game has made them because they had too. Same issue that's happening to NFL, have to protect the fantasy football money makers

We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it. I will disagree with your take on James whether we have an agreement in place or not.
You think nobody has ever tried to foul James so hard on a drive that he never drives again? They have and he doesn't give a rat's A$$ he keeps driving. Nothing soft about him. Not even the tiniest iota of softness.
By the way. How do you foul someone who's driving so hard they will never drive again, but not be a cheap shot?


You go for the ball and put his body into the ground hard. No cheap shots like going for knees or headshots, a good, hard body foul. Go watch tapes of what the Pistons used to do to Jordan. Also, it shouldn't just happen once in a while, it should happen every time any player, especially prima Donna's, try going to the rim all game long.

Respect your takes, just disagree
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1164 » by TheProdigy » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:02 pm

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Norseman79 wrote:I would agree to disagree.

We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it.

Can't even agree to disagree?

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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1165 » by PerkinsFor3 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:52 pm

Vanderbilt makes a lot of sense. I dont see how you can start Juancho and KAT together and be serious about winning games. Rosas has been talking about Vanderbilt a bit ever since he aqcuired him and especially this summer. I think his ability to defend multiple positions, passing/playmaming and size make a lot of sense in the starting line up.
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Post#1166 » by Dan's with the Wolves » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:59 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Dan's with the Wolves wrote:I think the Starting/Ending lineup will be :

(Best Playmaker)
Rubio

(Three Best 3-Point Shooters not named Towns)
Russell
Beasley
Hernangomez

(Best Player)
Towns

Initial focus will be Rubio to Town to take advantage of single coverage inside with the three shooter making them pay for any attempts to double Towns.

On defense they will switch everything and substitutions will be based on foul trouble.

If no foul trouble, Russell or Rubio will be the first to rest and their minute will be staggered until the end of the game.

Edwards, Culver, Okogie, will be coming off the bench until they become one of the best 3-Point shooters not named Towns.

This seems to be consistent with the roster and Rosas/Saunders stated plan

With Rubio now being an above average 3 point shooter that makes 5 out of 5 above average 3 point shooters in our starting lineup.
I think Beasley playing the medium sized wing gets absolutely destroyed on Defense though. Maybe he guards the PG on defense and Rubio and Russell take the SG/SF assignments. Edwards was the #1 overall pick in the draft. It would be shocking if he's not starting after 20 games.


Good point regarding Rubio’s 3-Point Shooting. I think that is why Rubio will be in the starting/ending lineup. long with his ability to get Towns easy buckets.

With the Wolves switching everything, teams will run actions to get the matchup they want regardless of who is on the floor with Beasley. It will be up to Beasley to defend without fouling to maximize his minutes.

One of the things I am looking forward to seeing is if Okogie, Culver have improved their 3-point shooting over the offseason.

The other is what the Wolves really have in Edwards. I think he will get plenty of minutes in games due to his draft status. When/whether he or Okogie/Culver break into the starting/ending lineup will be determined by their impact on winning games.

I think the Wolves will be focused on winning games while developing their younger players. Not developing their young players while sacrificing wins this season.







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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1167 » by Domejandro » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Dan's with the Wolves wrote:I think the Starting/Ending lineup will be :

(Best Playmaker)
Rubio

(Three Best 3-Point Shooters not named Towns)
Russell
Beasley
Hernangomez

(Best Player)
Towns

Initial focus will be Rubio to Town to take advantage of single coverage inside with the three shooter making them pay for any attempts to double Towns.

On defense they will switch everything and substitutions will be based on foul trouble.

If no foul trouble, Russell or Rubio will be the first to rest and their minute will be staggered until the end of the game.

Edwards, Culver, Okogie, will be coming off the bench until they become one of the best 3-Point shooters not named Towns.

This seems to be consistent with the roster and Rosas/Saunders stated plan

With Rubio now being an above average 3 point shooter that makes 5 out of 5 above average 3 point shooters in our starting lineup.
I think Beasley playing the medium sized wing gets absolutely destroyed on Defense though. Maybe he guards the PG on defense and Rubio and Russell take the SG/SF assignments. Edwards was the #1 overall pick in the draft. It would be shocking if he's not starting after 20 games.

Keep in mind, Rubio miraculously has a bad shooting season every other year, so we have that to look forward to.
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Post#1168 » by Dan's with the Wolves » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:26 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Dan's with the Wolves wrote:I think the Starting/Ending lineup will be :

(Best Playmaker)
Rubio

(Three Best 3-Point Shooters not named Towns)
Russell
Beasley
Hernangomez

(Best Player)
Towns

Initial focus will be Rubio to Town to take advantage of single coverage inside with the three shooter making them pay for any attempts to double Towns.

On defense they will switch everything and substitutions will be based on foul trouble.

If no foul trouble, Russell or Rubio will be the first to rest and their minute will be staggered until the end of the game.

Edwards, Culver, Okogie, will be coming off the bench until they become one of the best 3-Point shooters not named Towns.

This seems to be consistent with the roster and Rosas/Saunders stated plan

With Rubio now being an above average 3 point shooter that makes 5 out of 5 above average 3 point shooters in our starting lineup.
I think Beasley playing the medium sized wing gets absolutely destroyed on Defense though. Maybe he guards the PG on defense and Rubio and Russell take the SG/SF assignments. Edwards was the #1 overall pick in the draft. It would be shocking if he's not starting after 20 games.


Good point regarding Rubio’s 3-Point Shooting. I think that is why Rubio will be in the starting/ending lineup. long with his ability to get Towns easy buckets.

With the Wolves switching everything, teams will run actions to get the matchup they want regardless of who is on the floor with Beasley. It will be up to Beasley to defend without fouling to maximize his minutes.

One of the things I am looking forward to seeing is if Okogie, Culver have improved their 3-point shooting over the offseason.

The other is what the Wolves really have in Edwards. I think he will get plenty of minutes in games due to his draft status. When/whether he or Okogie/Culver break into the starting/ending lineup will be determined by their impact on winning games.

I think the Wolves will be focused on winning games while developing their younger players. Not developing their young players while sacrificing wins this season.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1169 » by Jedzz » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:20 pm

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:
Good point regarding Rubio’s 3-Point Shooting. I think that is why Rubio will be in the starting/ending lineup. long with his ability to get Towns easy buckets.


I think Rubio's best helping our bench players produce more. Sure, he's going to be with some of the starters often enough. But Dlo/Towns is very much going to be a thing they attempt to foster first. Beasley needs to be getting top shelf minutes to make this offense efficient enough and Edwards will undoubtedly be getting his chances inserted. It's going to be one of the most interesting tasks for Ryan to date to make this work.
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Post#1170 » by KGdaBom » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:06 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
I would agree to disagree. Even professional commentators have made that comment about James...guys like Charles Barkley. Have I played against James, no. Would I take a charge from him, no. Would I step aside and try to foul him (not cheap shot) so hard he would never want to try to go to the basket again? Absolutely. That's what is missing in the current game. Entitled, pampered, and protected players have ruined it, not even saying it's their fault that they are soft, it's just what the game has made them because they had too. Same issue that's happening to NFL, have to protect the fantasy football money makers

We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it. I will disagree with your take on James whether we have an agreement in place or not.
You think nobody has ever tried to foul James so hard on a drive that he never drives again? They have and he doesn't give a rat's A$$ he keeps driving. Nothing soft about him. Not even the tiniest iota of softness.
By the way. How do you foul someone who's driving so hard they will never drive again, but not be a cheap shot?


You go for the ball and put his body into the ground hard. No cheap shots like going for knees or headshots, a good, hard body foul. Go watch tapes of what the Pistons used to do to Jordan. Also, it shouldn't just happen once in a while, it should happen every time any player, especially prima Donna's, try going to the rim all game long.

Respect your takes, just disagree

here's another take where we disagree. If you say you're going for the ball but intend to put his body to the ground hard you aren't really going for the ball. The foul is intentional and a cheap shot. Maybe not as cheap as going for the head or knees, but still a cheap shot. Are you claiming that any player that drives to the rim is a Prima Donna? I don't get your take at all.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1171 » by KGdaBom » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:09 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:I would agree to disagree.

We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it.

Can't even agree to disagree?

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I simply don't get the need to agree to disagree. You can disagree whether you agree to do it or not.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1172 » by KGdaBom » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:12 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:
Dan's with the Wolves wrote:I think the Starting/Ending lineup will be :

(Best Playmaker)
Rubio

(Three Best 3-Point Shooters not named Towns)
Russell
Beasley
Hernangomez

(Best Player)
Towns

Initial focus will be Rubio to Town to take advantage of single coverage inside with the three shooter making them pay for any attempts to double Towns.

On defense they will switch everything and substitutions will be based on foul trouble.

If no foul trouble, Russell or Rubio will be the first to rest and their minute will be staggered until the end of the game.

Edwards, Culver, Okogie, will be coming off the bench until they become one of the best 3-Point shooters not named Towns.

This seems to be consistent with the roster and Rosas/Saunders stated plan

With Rubio now being an above average 3 point shooter that makes 5 out of 5 above average 3 point shooters in our starting lineup.
I think Beasley playing the medium sized wing gets absolutely destroyed on Defense though. Maybe he guards the PG on defense and Rubio and Russell take the SG/SF assignments. Edwards was the #1 overall pick in the draft. It would be shocking if he's not starting after 20 games.

Keep in mind, Rubio miraculously has a bad shooting season every other year, so we have that to look forward to.

Nope. Those are ancient history never to happen again. :D
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Post#1173 » by Norseman79 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:45 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it. I will disagree with your take on James whether we have an agreement in place or not.
You think nobody has ever tried to foul James so hard on a drive that he never drives again? They have and he doesn't give a rat's A$$ he keeps driving. Nothing soft about him. Not even the tiniest iota of softness.
By the way. How do you foul someone who's driving so hard they will never drive again, but not be a cheap shot?


You go for the ball and put his body into the ground hard. No cheap shots like going for knees or headshots, a good, hard body foul. Go watch tapes of what the Pistons used to do to Jordan. Also, it shouldn't just happen once in a while, it should happen every time any player, especially prima Donna's, try going to the rim all game long.

Respect your takes, just disagree

here's another take where we disagree. If you say you're going for the ball but intend to put his body to the ground hard you aren't really going for the ball. The foul is intentional and a cheap shot. Maybe not as cheap as going for the head or knees, but still a cheap shot. Are you claiming that any player that drives to the rim is a Prima Donna? I don't get your take at all.


Nah, it's good old fashioned basketball. If you go to the rim there is a price to pay. The intent is there are no easy baskets in the paint. The hard foul is perfectly fine, as long as a play is made on the ball. Semantics? Maybe.

Prima Donna would be the star players who think they should get every call or whine constantly. Keep your mouth shut and play, or someone will shut your mouth. Good old days, man I miss them.

Players get 6 fouls, no reason to not use at least 5 of them. A well placed elbow on a rebound, a hard screen that drops a defender, running through a screen and planting the screener, a clean foul that puts someone on their ass when they go to the rim...good, aggressive, physical, nasty attitude basketball.
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Post#1174 » by Norseman79 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:47 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
TheProdigy wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:We disagree. We don't need to agree to do it.

Can't even agree to disagree?

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I simply don't get the need to agree to disagree. You can disagree whether you agree to do it or not.


The point is I respect your views are different than mine and accept that. It is typically done as a way to acknowledge and try to show respect to an individual that you may disagree with.
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Post#1175 » by KGdaBom » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:51 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
TheProdigy wrote:Can't even agree to disagree?

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I simply don't get the need to agree to disagree. You can disagree whether you agree to do it or not.


The point is I respect your views are different than mine and accept that. It is typically done as a way to acknowledge and try to show respect to an individual that you may disagree with.

I just think it is one of the most stupid sayings ever invented. I can't respect your opinion that LeBron is soft. Some opinions I disagree with I can still respect. However, I will never be able to accept that stand. He's the greatest player of all time. I respect your take that it's Jordan. I would respect it if you said it was Magic or Wilt. So things like that we can do the ridiculous agree to disagree. Calling James sawfft.............. No.
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Post#1176 » by Norseman79 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:07 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I simply don't get the need to agree to disagree. You can disagree whether you agree to do it or not.


The point is I respect your views are different than mine and accept that. It is typically done as a way to acknowledge and try to show respect to an individual that you may disagree with.

I just think it is one of the most stupid sayings ever invented. I can't respect your opinion that LeBron is soft. Some opinions I disagree with I can still respect. However, I will never be able to accept that stand. He's the greatest player of all time. I respect your take that it's Jordan. I would respect it if you said it was Magic or Wilt. So things like that we can do the ridiculous agree to disagree. Calling James sawfft.............. No.


Ummmm..ok :lol:
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Post#1177 » by Macwolf527 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:11 am

The recent signing list says we signed Tyler Cook on November 29th. Is that legit or an error by RealGM? Anyone know about his game?
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1178 » by KGdaBom » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:32 am

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
The point is I respect your views are different than mine and accept that. It is typically done as a way to acknowledge and try to show respect to an individual that you may disagree with.

I just think it is one of the most stupid sayings ever invented. I can't respect your opinion that LeBron is soft. Some opinions I disagree with I can still respect. However, I will never be able to accept that stand. He's the greatest player of all time. I respect your take that it's Jordan. I would respect it if you said it was Magic or Wilt. So things like that we can do the ridiculous agree to disagree. Calling James sawfft.............. No.


Ummmm..ok :lol:

Norseman consider this. If my take was Jordan was sawft would you respect that opinion? It isn't my opinion because it's so ridiculous. To me thinking LeBron is sawft is every bit as ridiculous. You want to say Jordan is the GOAT I don't agree, but I have no problem with it.
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Post#1179 » by Dewey » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:41 am

This is one of the all-time best head-scratching battles ever
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Post#1180 » by Klomp » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:53 am

Macwolf527 wrote:The recent signing list says we signed Tyler Cook on November 29th. Is that legit or an error by RealGM? Anyone know about his game?

Have seen nothing on Twitter about a signing, but it wouldn't shock me. Game has some similarities to Jarred Vanderbilt in a bigger frame. Non-shooter, but athletic and active. Played college ball at Iowa. Was a 2-way contract player for Cleveland/Canton last year before he was signed to a pair of 10-day contracts by the Cavs. Two weeks later, the Charge traded him to the Blue.

It's probably only a training camp deal, like Jordan Murphy and Lindell Wigginton were last year. So he'll spend the year in Iowa if this is true.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/c/cookty01d.html

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