Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[LAKESHOW]

One guys knows tactics in fighting. One guys knows basketball. Child pleeeze

[KillMonger]

i'd go with the pro fighter, maybe by knockout but moreso maybe submission....could easily see zion choked out

[chitownsalesmen]

There are a million reasons why NBA/NFL rejects don't want to be MMA fighters and probably none of these guys are comparable to Zion in terms of size and athletic ability. If I had to guess, most people don't want to be punched in the face for a living and MMA doesn't even pay that well unless you are a huge money draw. The heavyweight division in boxing has been hurting for decades ever since other sports came more into prominence, sports where you're not required to get hit in the face repeatedly.

I'm not talking about every person with an athletic advantage, or every person with a size advantage, I'm talking about a guy in Zion who is a historic anomaly in both areas and we're comparing this guy who belongs in a super heavyweight division to fighting a flyweight.

No no no, you literally said give Zion two weeks and he'd be beating UFC champions thats not how the real world works.

Again thats like saying give LeBron two weeks and he'd be an all-pro NFL player, it doesn't work like that none of this works like that.

Yeah fighting is a very tough career path, its brutal both physically and mentally and yeah not a lot of people want to earn a living getting punched/kicked in the face, being put into submissions/holds that can break limbs, etc etc. Which is why I'm dumbfounded you think Zion can just flip a switch and all of sudden would be able to just take hits from pro or even semi-pro fighters who will land hits on Zion unless again he goes through years of expansive training to learn how to dodge hits, block his opponents strikes, avoid being submitted, etc etc.

As far as Zion specifically you honestly couldn't pick a worse example the guy yes is physically strong and athletic but those are not the only things or even the most important aspects of what makes someone a great fighter, Zion has yet to prove he's going to be able to withstand the rigors of an NBA season let alone endure what a professional fighting career would do to his body. As you yourself have stated he would have to drop his bodyfat and improve his cardio to even legitimately compete that alone is going to take months of training, so why did you in the same breath say that if Zion trained for two weeks he could beat a UFC champion which we've already established would take literally years of training to get him to a place where could even compete against significantly lower level fighters who themselves have been training on MMA/fighting for years and years.

Zion isn't the first big strong, athletic guy yeah he is uniquely talented but again he plays basketball, to the best of my knowledge he has never trained any discipline or fought at any competitive level, in saying this I'm not writing off his potential to one day become an MMA fighter I'm saying you are vastly discounting the work that actual fighters have done and are IMO out of your depth in this conversation based on a number of the statements you've made in this thread.

I'm going to repeat what I said earlier.

You are making a ton of assumptions and making blanket statements that lead me to believe you are vastly overstating your own knowledge on MMA/fighting in general and I'll be the first to admit I'm am not anywhere close to knowledgeable about MMA/fight scene however I do know people who have actually trained multiple disciplines and actually fought in both unofficial matches and or low-level competitive MMA matches and the difference between a guy who has trained multiple disciplines for literally decades and a guy who attends a few 6 weeks camps is so vast it would be like comparing the ringer at your local LA fitness to a legit nba player who mops the floor with the top 3-5 players at your gym without breaking a sweat.

Not trying to argue with you or call you out but what you saying is demonstrable false based on my admittedly very, very limited experience and knowledge of MMA/fighting.

At this point I'm again going to advise you to stop talking about MMA/fighting in such broad terms and making huge assumptions about what Zion, LeBron, Shaq, Wilt or whoever you want to name would hypothetically do in an actual fight as you have now explicitly shown multiple times you have doubled talked, saying one thing and then contradicted yourself in the next breath, again I'm not an MMA expert nor do I claim to be but I do now when someone is making something as their going and you are clearly not educated in MMA training, actual fight scenarios or how any of this works and IMO just sounding dumber and dumber with every contradictory statement you've made.

No disrespect or anything personal to you but you are flat out either trolling or totally disrespecting the work and training of actual fighters who have dedicated huge amounts of time who have left blood sweat and tears on the mat to chase their dreams as fighters and you seem to think Zion would be able to roll people after a few karate classes just because he's able to bully 180lb NBA players on a basketball court.

You said I contradicted myself, can you explain and show where that happened?

I explained how you double-talked, not my job to re-explain it too you, again.

[ayyayyron]

I love Zion but he's done for if that ever happens. It's Conor McGregor we're talking about.

[King4Day]

I don't even think he'd have a shot against Amanda Nunez.

[jbk1234]

I'm not a McGregor fan at all. But he'll knock Zion out in 5 seconds easily

This. People who fight for a living hit hard. Very hard. Their knuckles are calcified from the constant use. They're not easy to hit either. You'd be luck to land any type of real punch.

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[jlokine]

is alcohol allowed? if yes, then drunk mcgregor wins. if no, then probably zion.

[The_Teflon_Don]

If anyone actually believes Zion has a snowballs chance in hell at beating McGregor in any form of combat whether it's professional or in a street atmosphere is smoking some cheap laced out crack!

[JD45]

Having trained a little in submission wrestling with some UFC fighters, I think Zion would be best to keep off the ground. On his feet, his head and neck mass would make it harder to be knocked out and he might land a lucky punch. Still very little chance of winning, but there is some chance.

With no training and against a professional MMA fighter, the last thing he would want is to get close to them. Most people have no idea of how to defend themselves on the ground, even if they have watched it on TV. Assuming Zion has little or no wrestling or MMA training, then it would be simple to get to his legs for a takedown, and then quickly get on top of him. If he did what most people do and lift his arms to defend himself, it would be a quick armbar or americana. If he tried to roll away, McGregor could take his back and use a rear naked choke. All this would take less than a minute.

If Zion tried to "tackle" him, there are lots of counters. A guillotine choke, or take his back again. I doubt McGreggor would go down in such an uncontrolled manner to be incapacitated, so even if Zion was on top, its unlikely he would be able to prevent McGreggor for getting him in the guard position and once again subjecting him to various chokes and joint locks.

Royce Gracie fought MMA at 190 lbs. He defeated 6'8", 484 lb Chad Rowan in 2 minutes. He also beat 6' 2", 250 lb Remco Pardoel. While I am sure Zion is a better base athlete than any of these fighters, they all had extensive training and it was still not enough to beat a much smaller but far more skilled fighter.

[pootbrah]

Zion would just straight up bicep curl McGregor. What can McGregor do in a curl?

[Pablo Escobar]

I'm not a McGregor fan at all. But he'll knock Zion out in 5 seconds easily

This. People who fight for a living hit hard. Very hard. Their knuckles are calcified from the constant use. They're not easy to hit either. You'd be luck to land any type of real punch.

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Exactly, one kick to the leg and Zion would just hobble away and leave the octagon/ring

[Pg81]

I'm not a McGregor fan at all. But he'll knock Zion out in 5 seconds easily

This. People who fight for a living hit hard. Very hard. Their knuckles are calcified from the constant use. They're not easy to hit either. You'd be luck to land any type of real punch.

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[brutalitops]

I could beat Steph Curru 1v1 by just hurling the ball into the air and getting a lucky roll of the bucket a couple of times

Thats the equivalent of saying "Zion has a chance to beat any UFC fighter with a lucky haymaker" i doubt most NBA players can throw a proper haymaker with any technique/form

[Ring Damage]

I'm not a McGregor fan at all. But he'll knock Zion out in 5 seconds easily

This. People who fight for a living hit hard. Very hard. Their knuckles are calcified from the constant use. They're not easy to hit either. You'd be luck to land any type of real punch.

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But that's not a street fight. A street fight has no gloves and the guys in that video are circling each other timidly and treating it like boxing. You are supposed to kill the person as soon as possible, not bounce around them.

[TGW]

I can't believe this went 39 pages.

First of all, there's no way McGregor would win in a street fight. Zion is a 285 lbs super-athlete with long ass arms. McGregor is a good UFC dirty boxer, but in a street fight, dirty boxing doesn't exist. Zion would pick his little ass up and slam him. Maybe if McGregor was a decent BJJJ or sambo technician, he could stand a chance, but in a no rules environment, Zion would crush him.

[GiggitySmalls]

One or 2 of conors well placed leg kicks to the side of zions knee would ground the big man in a second.

[Pg81]

This. People who fight for a living hit hard. Very hard. Their knuckles are calcified from the constant use. They're not easy to hit either. You'd be luck to land any type of real punch.

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But that's not a street fight. A street fight has no gloves and the guys in that video are circling each other timidly and treating it like boxing. You are supposed to kill the person as soon as possible, not bounce around them.

Shows how little you know. The gloves makes it so that these amateurs feel that they can go all the way out thinking that they cannot seriously hurt him if they do get a hit in when in reality it protects their hands from not being damaged by their awful technique. All in all this made it harder for him to dodge, not easier and you can see that they do not get a single solid hit in so it really means nothing in terms of demonstration how a trained fighter can easily dodge the clumsy punching attempts of an untrained person. Zion would not fare any better than these guys, maybe even worse. Lastly this was to show how easily a trained fighter can dodge amateurs not a demonstration of a street fight but hey good job missing the point entirely.

I can't believe this went 39 pages.

First of all, there's no way McGregor would win in a street fight. Zion is a 285 lbs super-athlete with long ass arms. McGregor is a good UFC dirty boxer, but in a street fight, dirty boxing doesn't exist. Zion would pick his little ass up and slam him. Maybe if McGregor was a decent BJJJ or sambo technician, he could stand a chance, but in a no rules environment, Zion would crush him.

This thread has been going for 39 pages because ignorant people keep making terrible arguments like you do which have already been debunked dozens of pages ago.

[GiggitySmalls]

One or 2 of conors well placed leg kicks to the side of zions knee would ground the big man in a second.

Just gonna quote myself....and add in any combat situation even against a brick wall in a corner...McGregor would destroy zion. Shaq lost to Oscar de la Hoya on Shaq vs.

[Pablo Escobar]

I can't believe this went 39 pages.

First of all, there's no way McGregor would win in a street fight. Zion is a 285 lbs super-athlete with long ass arms. McGregor is a good UFC dirty boxer, but in a street fight, dirty boxing doesn't exist. Zion would pick his little ass up and slam him. Maybe if McGregor was a decent BJJJ or sambo technician, he could stand a chance, but in a no rules environment, Zion would crush him.

He would break his shins with a few leg kicks... stop this.

[NYKnickerbocker]

I seriously doubt Zion has been in a serious fight in his life lol. Like what regular person is gunna **** with him lol. So a huge guy with no fighting experience goes up against a professional fighter who was basically near/at the top of his profession.

Zion will get absolutely demolished