Serving up big plates of Crow for Thanksgiving dinner at RealGM Cafe

[BoogieTime]

I’m not questioning his strategy. I’m questioning if he wasn’t going to sign Bogdan in that range, knowing the Hawks only had 19M left why not fold early and get a TPE?

TPE’s are valuable for extra flexibility. Ainge just gave up 2 seconds to get one. Atlanta would have been happy to do a sign and trade to avoid the poison pills with which they are now stuck. He claims he wants flexibility and he **** up a chance to increase it. He’s better than Vlade but not by much.

How do you envision a TPE being used for Sacramento in the near future? I would rather him not fold and try to get one of the Hawks young players.

Celtics are in an entirely different place than the Kings

My preference would have been getting a young player also but clearly that option wasn’t on the table. You should have known you wouldn’t match, ask for a player, if you don’t get it come back with their counter even if it was nothing and get the TPE.

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

Why would it clearly not be on the table?

That’s just GM’ing, playing chicken for one of Atlanta’s assets

Who knows what the market will be for dead contracts, a lot of teams will have cap going forward, and dead salary will mess with the teams flexibility

[Sactowndog]

How do you envision a TPE being used for Sacramento in the near future? I would rather him not fold and try to get one of the Hawks young players.

Celtics are in an entirely different place than the Kings

My preference would have been getting a young player also but clearly that option wasn’t on the table. You should have known you wouldn’t match, ask for a player, if you don’t get it come back with their counter even if it was nothing and get the TPE.

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

Why would it clearly not be on the table?

That’s just GM’ing, playing chicken for one of Atlanta’s assets

Who knows what the market will be for dead contracts, a lot of teams will have cap going forward, and dead salary will mess with the teams flexibility

The TPM comes with the trade. It’s not like Atlanta gives it, it’s just a function of a lopsided trade. I don’t know what the Kangz asked and with what Atlanta offered but even if Atlanta offered nothing, the TPE was better than what the Kings got.

It was precessional level poker and McNair f’d it up. Once the final contract was signed, he was pot committed and should have matched. Otherwise he should never gotten to that point.

All that McNair proved is he sucks at poker and can be bluffed. Expect more low ball offers on any other Kangz assets.

[BoogieTime]

My preference would have been getting a young player also but clearly that option wasn’t on the table. You should have known you wouldn’t match, ask for a player, if you don’t get it come back with their counter even if it was nothing and get the TPE.

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

Why would it clearly not be on the table?

That’s just GM’ing, playing chicken for one of Atlanta’s assets

Who knows what the market will be for dead contracts, a lot of teams will have cap going forward, and dead salary will mess with the teams flexibility

The TPM comes with the trade. It’s not like Atlanta gives it, it’s just a function of a lopsided trade. I don’t know what the Kangz asked and with what Atlanta offered but even if Atlanta offered nothing, the TPE was better than what the Kings got.

It was precessional level poker and McNair f’d it up. Once the final contract was signed, he was pot committed and should have matched. Otherwise he should never gotten to that point.

All that McNair proved is he sucks at poker and can be bluffed. Expect more low ball offers on any other Kangz assets.

It’s not a big deal either way for you guys to be spazzing on the forum. The rebuilding/bottoming out Kings, who don’t have good financial books, thought it was better to try to get Atlanta to give a solid asset than have a need for a TPE this year. Oh well

[Sactowndog]

Why would it clearly not be on the table?

That’s just GM’ing, playing chicken for one of Atlanta’s assets

Who knows what the market will be for dead contracts, a lot of teams will have cap going forward, and dead salary will mess with the teams flexibility

The TPM comes with the trade. It’s not like Atlanta gives it, it’s just a function of a lopsided trade. I don’t know what the Kangz asked and with what Atlanta offered but even if Atlanta offered nothing, the TPE was better than what the Kings got.

It was precessional level poker and McNair f’d it up. Once the final contract was signed, he was pot committed and should have matched. Otherwise he should never gotten to that point.

All that McNair proved is he sucks at poker and can be bluffed. Expect more low ball offers on any other Kangz assets.

It’s not a big deal either way for you guys to be spazzing on the forum. The rebuilding/bottoming out Kings, who don’t have good financial books, thought it was better to try to get Atlanta to give a solid asset than have a need for a TPE this year. Oh well

Depends on whether you want to get a decent player for one of your expirings or you want to take on a player for picks. Having that TPE could have proven very useful. Kings have limited assets as it is. They can’t afford to F up the ones they do have as McNair did.

[HotelVitale]

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

I don't know if you all ever talk about this on Sacto board but that trade ended up working out pretty spectactularly for you. Philly used the two assets picked up in it first to move up from 5 to 3 (pick swap), and then from 3 to 1 (unprotected SAC 1st) to take Fultz. We ended up with two years of a bad joke and you all ended up with the franchise cornerstone PG. If Vlade doesn't make that trade there's a really good chance you end up with Josh Jackson or Lonzo instead of Fox.

[penbeast0]

I thought the Wizards would basically stand pat just signing some mediocre vets to fill out space and not make much difference.

*Stands outside window looking at all the happy people enjoying their warm tasty crow and possibly drooling a bit on another gnawing empty stomach*

Mmmm, hot yummy fried crow. Pass the gravy please.

Wiz may not be that good and never been a Westbrook fan but at least there's now reason for tuning in and watching.

[Sactowndog]

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

I don't know if you all ever talk about this on Sacto board but that trade ended up working out pretty spectactularly for you. Philly used the two assets picked up in it first to move up from 5 to 3 (pick swap), and then from 3 to 1 (unprotected SAC 1st) to take Fultz. We ended up with two years of a bad joke and you all ended up with the franchise cornerstone PG. If Vlade doesn't make that trade there's a really good chance you end up with Josh Jackson or Lonzo instead of Fox.

Or maybe Tatum. Who knows what would have happened as Vlade was an idiot

[HotelVitale]

It was GM malpractice. Not at the level of Vlade’s trade to Philly but stupid nevertheless.

I don't know if you all ever talk about this on Sacto board but that trade ended up working out pretty spectactularly for you. Philly used the two assets picked up in it first to move up from 5 to 3 (pick swap), and then from 3 to 1 (unprotected SAC 1st) to take Fultz. We ended up with two years of a bad joke and you all ended up with the franchise cornerstone PG. If Vlade doesn't make that trade there's a really good chance you end up with Josh Jackson or Lonzo instead of Fox.

Or maybe Tatum. Who knows what would have happened as Vlade was an idiot

Maybe Tatum, but not likely. He wasn't considered by many to be a top-3 pick, good chance he fell to 7-8 if the Celtics didn't take him. I would honestly be super thankful for that debacle, there were only two actual prizes in that much touted top-10 and you all making that trade put you in a much better position to get one. To Vlade's incompetence!

[Texas Chuck]

So I left off my firm belief that Dallas would add one rookie at most and they have 2 on the main roster and 2 more on 2-ways. I would have told you they would have traded away at least one pick and instead they added another one.

Read that totally wrong.

[hoosierdaddy34]

I’ve beaten the crap out of Harrell for his poor defense...now he’s a Laker. Have to hope LeBron and AD unlock something in him but I got what I deserved for going in on him!

[Texas Chuck]

I’ve beaten the crap out of Harrell for his poor defense...now he’s a Laker. Have to hope LeBron and AD unlock something in him but I got what I deserved for going in on him!

this feels technically more like you reap what you sow, but I'll allow it.

[Soulyss]

I an starting to get that sinking feeling that I am going to eat crow on Giannis. Sorry Bucks Fans, I was convinced he was more Dame than KD.

[Buzzard]

I missed the Trez signing pretty bad. I saw him getting 15 to 20 million a year. The market for bigs was just not there for anyone not named AD.

[Soulyss]

I an starting to get that sinking feeling that I am going to eat crow on Giannis. Sorry Bucks Fans, I was convinced he was more Dame than KD.

Happily NOT eating crow for this. Congrats Buck Fans!

[Warriors Analyst]

I would have put money on the Warriors bringing back GRIII. That didn't happen. Not a lot of crow to eat, but still, crow nonetheless.

[The Rebel]

While not a huge fan of the idea, I was sure that the Nuggets would be bringing back Grant. It still makes no sense why anybody would think he could be a primary face of a franchise type of player like Detroit reportedly does, but if he wants to take the risk than I wish him well.

With Barton spending the last 3 years talking about being a starter and only wanting to start I thought we were going to trade him this year. If he can put aside his ego he is the perfect fit for what we need off the bench but I am not sure he will.

I thought Monte Morris would also get traded this offseason, I figured his next deal would be for at least the full MLE, and we couldn't afford that. He took a discount and now we are thrilled he is going to be here for 3 more years.

[dakomish23]

Booking my future crow meals now

Predictions based on current rosters:

Western conference

Spoiler:

UTA
LAC
LAL
POR
DEN
DAL
MEM
PHX
NOP
HOU
GSW
SAC
MIN
SAS
OKC

Eastern conference

Spoiler:

MIL
BOS
BKN
PHI
MIA
WAS
IND
TOR
ATL
ORL
CHI
CHA
NYK
DET
CLE

Awards

Spoiler:

MVP - Tatum
DPOY - Gobert
COY - Snyder
ROY - Ball

[babyjax13]

I thought Avdija would not be very mobile [i.e. more Dario Saric than Danilo Gallinari] and hated the pick. No telling how well he turns out, but he at least looks like someone who can play small forward.

[Texas Chuck]

Booking my future crow meals now

Predictions based on current rosters:

Western conference

Spoiler:

UTA
LAC
LAL
POR
DEN
DAL
MEM
PHX
NOP
HOU
GSW
SAC
MIN
SAS
OKC

Eastern conference

Spoiler:

MIL
BOS
BKN
PHI
MIA
WAS
IND
TOR
ATL
ORL
CHI
CHA
NYK
DET
CLE

Awards

Spoiler:

MVP - Tatum
DPOY - Gobert
COY - Snyder
ROY - Ball

As far as the team results go I guess you better get enough for 2. I'd probably change some of the ordering a bit, but I have the exact same 16 playoff teams(assuming a Harden trade). I'm glad you are high on Washington as well. I think they are going to be sneaky good this year. Westbrook should have a huge year for them.

And your MVP/coach picks make sense if Utah and Boston have that much team success. Love your boldness of calling your shots.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

It still makes no sense why anybody would think he could be a primary face of a franchise type of player like Detroit reportedly does, but if he wants to take the risk than I wish him well.

Detroit front office has an incredible poker face.