Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

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Who wins the fight? Zion or McGregor

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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#821 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:21 pm

The differential is over 115 lbs.

So, for context if we assume the average grown male is 200lbs -115lbs = 85lbs.

Take the world's most elite 85lb pre-teen, who could have been training since birth. So, if the argument for McGregor holds true the kid should win. Right? :nod:
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#822 » by magicman1978 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:33 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:The differential is over 115 lbs.

So, for context if we assume the average grown male is 200lbs -115lbs = 85lbs.

Take the world's most elite 85lb pre-teen, who could have been training since birth. So, if the argument for McGregor holds true the kid should win. Right? :nod:


The weird analogy of a little kid fighting an adult aside, Conor's walk around weight is around 185. Zion was 285 last year. So he has 100lbs on Conor, which is a 35% weight difference. 85 vs 200 lbs is a 58% weight difference. To put that into context, you're shaving about 65lbs off Conor's weight.
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Post#823 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:44 pm

magicman1978 wrote:The weird analogy of a little kid fighting an adult aside, Conor's walk around weight is around 185. Zion was 285 last year. So he has 100lbs on Conor, which is a 35% weight difference. 85 vs 200 lbs is a 58% weight difference. To put that into context, you're shaving about 65lbs off Conor's weight.

I'm not talking about Conor, I'm talking about the differential. What I'm doing is taking him out of the equation.

Take your weight and shave off the same amount, it doesn't have to be him for a theoretical argument. The results should be the same. It's just when you shave off that much, you end up talking about beating up a kid (for a normal person).
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#824 » by Midw35t » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:50 pm

thebigbird wrote:I think there's about a zero percent chance that McGregor wins a back alley fight with a pro athlete literally twice as heavy as him. They have weight classes in UFC for a reason.


I wasn't aware that McGregor isn't also a professional athlete.

Weight matters in context of athletes in the same sport.

McGregor knocks him out in the first minute. No question. You guys are stupid. He has trained for his entire life to **** someone up in that back alley, not to play basketball. I do not care how many pounds someone has on a guy trained in all aspects of MMA; these guys will tear you apart.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#825 » by magicman1978 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:53 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
magicman1978 wrote:The weird analogy of a little kid fighting an adult aside, Conor's walk around weight is around 185. Zion was 285 last year. So he has 100lbs on Conor, which is a 35% weight difference. 85 vs 200 lbs is a 58% weight difference. To put that into context, you're shaving about 65lbs off Conor's weight.

I'm not talking about Conor, I'm talking about the differential. What I'm doing is taking him out of the equation.

Take your weight and shave off the same amount, it doesn't have to be him for a theoretical argument. The results should be the same. It's just when you shave off that much, you end up talking about beating up a kid (for a normal person).


Based on your logic used here, I can see how you think Zion could win the fight now. A 200lb man is 2.4 times bigger than an 85lb kid. To be 2.4 times bigger than McGregor, Zion would need to weigh 440lbs.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#826 » by JVFRMN » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

I always found so freaking weird that in this place, being a basketball forum, people are so obsessed with fights and who is stronger and all that.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#827 » by elchengue20 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

Lol how stupid you can be to think weight/size is the only things that matters in a fight.

McGregor is a freaking fight machine. He fights for a living and it's one of the best. Zion at best must have fighted a couple of times in his life.Of course he will murder Zion in the 1st round.
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Post#828 » by jason bourne » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:58 pm

This is why I like RGM :D .

First, I think some of us would have like to seen Nate repping NBA to put up a better fight but pro boxer Jake Paul called it right off the bat. He just didn't have the actual ring fighting experience. And I think this is what would happen in a back alley brawl. McGregor would win by KO or hurting Zion so he couldn't continue. Just think if they played one-on-one basketball instead.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#829 » by Midw35t » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:08 pm

elchengue20 wrote:Lol how stupid you can be to think weight/size is the only things that matters in a fight.

McGregor is a freaking fight machine. He fights for a living and it's one of the best. Zion at best must have fighted a couple of times in his life.Of course he will murder Zion in the 1st round.


This might be the dumbest topic ever.

You think a big boy is going to annihilate a small guy just because of weight?

When this smaller guy has trained most of his life to learn to defend against anything but a gun or a knife?

You pick him up because you're bigger and he is instantly looking for a choke, trying to break something, or any way out. This isn't encountering a regular small dude in a back street..


These people are stupid.
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Post#830 » by Midw35t » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:11 pm

jason bourne wrote:This is why I like RGM :D .

First, I think some of us would have like to seen Nate repping NBA to put up a better fight but pro boxer Jake Paul called it right off the bat. He just didn't have the actual ring fighting experience. And I think this is what would happen in a back alley brawl. McGregor would win by KO or hurting Zion so he couldn't continue. Just think if they played one-on-one basketball instead.


I just wanted to see Mike Tyson fight Jake Paul. Then Nate Robinson. Now I guess Zion.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#831 » by thebigbird » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:22 pm

Midw35t wrote:
thebigbird wrote:I think there's about a zero percent chance that McGregor wins a back alley fight with a pro athlete literally twice as heavy as him. They have weight classes in UFC for a reason.


I wasn't aware that McGregor isn't also a professional athlete.

Weight matters in context of athletes in the same sport.

McGregor knocks him out in the first minute. No question. You guys are stupid. He has trained for his entire life to **** someone up in that back alley, not to play basketball. I do not care how many pounds someone has on a guy trained in all aspects of MMA; these guys will tear you apart.

Mcgregor sucker punched an old man in a bar and didn’t even knock the guy off his stool. Maybe Zion would get his butt kicked, but you can’t discount the massive strength advantage Zion has. He makes other strong nba players look like little kids.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz.com/2019/08/15/conor-mcgregor-irish-pub-old-man-punch-whiskey-dispute/
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#832 » by Midw35t » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:31 pm

thebigbird wrote:
Midw35t wrote:
thebigbird wrote:I think there's about a zero percent chance that McGregor wins a back alley fight with a pro athlete literally twice as heavy as him. They have weight classes in UFC for a reason.


I wasn't aware that McGregor isn't also a professional athlete.

Weight matters in context of athletes in the same sport.

McGregor knocks him out in the first minute. No question. You guys are stupid. He has trained for his entire life to **** someone up in that back alley, not to play basketball. I do not care how many pounds someone has on a guy trained in all aspects of MMA; these guys will tear you apart.

Mcgregor sucker punched an old man in a bar and didn’t even knock the guy off his stool. Maybe Zion would get his butt kicked, but you can’t discount the massive strength advantage Zion has. He makes other strong nba players look like little kids.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz.com/2019/08/15/conor-mcgregor-irish-pub-old-man-punch-whiskey-dispute/


This is as dumb as the original post.

You linked me a TMZ article? Really?

If McGregor wanted to hurt or kill a guy, he could. Arguing this is proving stupidity.

I did not and do not advocate for McGregor, nor care how another man chooses to live. I was stating the fact that he would wipe the floor with Zion. I do not care how strong Zion looks against other NBA players. His teeth would be knocked in by a no name MMA athlete, let alone a multi champ. Get real.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#833 » by Doug_12 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:00 pm

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Doug_12 wrote:I think this would happen:


Bob Sapp had no chance even though he had like 100 kgs weight and like 10 cms height advantage. And Kunkli was just a well trained muay thai fighter - who was actually a well known fighter in Hungary - but had no recognition outside his country.

It wouldn't be a competition even if they limit the moves that McGregor can perform.

To be fair to Bob Sapp, who is a terrible fighter, he somehow beat Ernesto Hoost. Twice.

He was on about an entire stable's worth of steroids at the time and makes Brock Lesnar look tiny, but still…he's actually kind of not a great example. What's really weird is that he somehow only got worse as he gained more experience.

Yeah, but it's very probable that Bob Sapp is actually a more trained fighter than Zion. And McGregor is definitely a way better fighter than Kunkli. So in this regard I'd say that this match reflects fairly well what would happen between the two. I'd even argue that something like this would be the best scenario for Zion...
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#834 » by Midw35t » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:07 pm

Doug_12 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:
Doug_12 wrote:I think this would happen:


Bob Sapp had no chance even though he had like 100 kgs weight and like 10 cms height advantage. And Kunkli was just a well trained muay thai fighter - who was actually a well known fighter in Hungary - but had no recognition outside his country.

It wouldn't be a competition even if they limit the moves that McGregor can perform.

To be fair to Bob Sapp, who is a terrible fighter, he somehow beat Ernesto Hoost. Twice.

He was on about an entire stable's worth of steroids at the time and makes Brock Lesnar look tiny, but still…he's actually kind of not a great example. What's really weird is that he somehow only got worse as he gained more experience.

Yeah, but it's very probable that Bob Sapp is actually a more trained fighter than Zion. And McGregor is definitely a way better fighter than Kunkli. So in this regard I'd say that this match reflects fairly well what would happen between the two. I'd even argue that something like this would be the best scenario for Zion...


McGregor cut out 90 % of his arsenal to fight Mayweather (one of the best ever), and still held his own. The fact that people are even debating this proves stupidity.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#835 » by trueballer7 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:26 pm

Midw35t wrote:
Doug_12 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:To be fair to Bob Sapp, who is a terrible fighter, he somehow beat Ernesto Hoost. Twice.

He was on about an entire stable's worth of steroids at the time and makes Brock Lesnar look tiny, but still…he's actually kind of not a great example. What's really weird is that he somehow only got worse as he gained more experience.

Yeah, but it's very probable that Bob Sapp is actually a more trained fighter than Zion. And McGregor is definitely a way better fighter than Kunkli. So in this regard I'd say that this match reflects fairly well what would happen between the two. I'd even argue that something like this would be the best scenario for Zion...


McGregor cut out 90 % of his arsenal to fight Mayweather (one of the best ever), and still held his own. The fact that people are even debating this proves stupidity.

He should have cut out 90% of his liverpool instead.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#836 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:11 pm

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thebigbird wrote:I think there's about a zero percent chance that McGregor wins a back alley fight with a pro athlete literally twice as heavy as him. They have weight classes in UFC for a reason.

I see your fight takes go along with the basketball takes.

lol weird as hell of you to throw out a personal attack like this, especially when I couldn’t distinguish you from any other poster on here, but you do you bud.


The fact he has quite a few and1’s, I think it’s fair to say most of us can distinguish you and your posts.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#837 » by Stillwater » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:25 pm

thebigbird wrote:I think there's about a zero percent chance that McGregor wins a back alley fight with a pro athlete literally twice as heavy as him. They have weight classes in UFC for a reason.

skill is a factor there buddy but yeah any normal human being McGregors size wouldnt have more than a sniffles chance of sneezing at Zion. Is Zion a skilled fighter or is this just another op assumes since Zion is a beast he would fight well thread? lol
I guess OP would say : McGregor snaps Zs knee in 10 seconds then Zion puts his foot in Mickeys arse after dunking his severed head
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#838 » by Pg81 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31 pm

magicman1978 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:The differential is over 115 lbs.

So, for context if we assume the average grown male is 200lbs -115lbs = 85lbs.

Take the world's most elite 85lb pre-teen, who could have been training since birth. So, if the argument for McGregor holds true the kid should win. Right? :nod:


The weird analogy of a little kid fighting an adult aside, Conor's walk around weight is around 185. Zion was 285 last year. So he has 100lbs on Conor, which is a 35% weight difference. 85 vs 200 lbs is a 58% weight difference. To put that into context, you're shaving about 65lbs off Conor's weight.


The comparison is utterly stupid anyway. Kids have not undergone puberty yet, so no increase in muscle mass, bone density, increased lung capacity, elevated testosterone, etc etc
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#839 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:34 pm

It’s like saying Tacko Fall should dominate the NBA because he’s 7’7. There is so much more that comes into it than the size of a person.
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Re: Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins? 

Post#840 » by thebigbird » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:39 pm

AussieCeltic wrote:
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JN61 wrote:I see your fight takes go along with the basketball takes.

lol weird as hell of you to throw out a personal attack like this, especially when I couldn’t distinguish you from any other poster on here, but you do you bud.


The fact he has quite a few and1’s, I think it’s fair to say most of us can distinguish you and your posts.

Not really sure what this means tbh

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