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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1361 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:56 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:So can Tristan play PG? Lol

In all seriousness, Kemba went to a bunch of specialists who all told him no surgery. That is weird to me.

It has to be arthritis. He was our best player in the first half of the playoffs so he’s still good but man this is bull.

No Surgery? -- That's not good, if it cannot be corrected by surgery.
Sounds like he's cooked.

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Post#1362 » by greenroom31 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:04 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:So can Tristan play PG? Lol

In all seriousness, Kemba went to a bunch of specialists who all told him no surgery. That is weird to me.

It has to be arthritis. He was our best player in the first half of the playoffs so he’s still good but man this is bull.

No Surgery? -- That's not good, if it cannot be corrected by surgery.
Sounds like he's cooked.

As a professional athlete, you gotta be able to rise to the occasion.
If he's just going to be a regular person, then do that. = Retire.


You may be overreacting somewhat here Parl. I don't see anything that indicates his career his over.
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Post#1363 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:12 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:So can Tristan play PG? Lol

In all seriousness, Kemba went to a bunch of specialists who all told him no surgery. That is weird to me.

It has to be arthritis. He was our best player in the first half of the playoffs so he’s still good but man this is bull.

No Surgery? -- That's not good, if it cannot be corrected by surgery.
Sounds like he's cooked.

As a professional athlete, you gotta be able to rise to the occasion.
If he's just going to be a regular person, then do that. = Retire.


You may be overreacting somewhat here Parl. I don't see anything that indicates his career his over.

I feel you. -- But, I just don't want another problem for the Celtics.
Trade him if you can. But realistically, it doesn't matter what Team knows/knew what.

Kemba, is the one who Knows that he's gimpy.
He doesn't need a Team Doctor to tell him that.
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Re: Injuries, 2020-21: Kemba (L.Knee); Langford (R.Wrist): Thompson (Hamstring) 

Post#1364 » by Darth Celtic » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:13 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, before the panic police take over, Kemba still averaged 20-5-4 on 57%+ TS last post season. The Celtics had a net rating of +6.2 with him on the court relative to a +0.9 rating without him. Even if his knee is problematic, he’s still a very good player. Lets not lose sight of that
This board "we need to let kemba sit out and rest start if season. No need to waste him as we will make playoffs without him."

Kemba sees multiple doctors to make sure he doesn't need surgery which is worst case. Gets a treatment that seems to have good results and will miss first few weeks to a month after on a strengthen program developed when we though season starting later. The same people on this board. "he should just retire."

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Post#1365 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:17 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, before the panic police take over, Kemba still averaged 20-5-4 on 57%+ TS last post season. The Celtics had a net rating of +6.2 with him on the court relative to a +0.9 rating without him. Even if his knee is problematic, he’s still a very good player. Lets not lose sight of that
This board "we need to let kemba sit out and rest start if season. No need to waste him as we will make playoffs without him."

Kemba sees multiple doctors to make sure he doesn't need surgery which is worst case. Gets a treatment that seems to have good results and will miss first few weeks to a month after on a strengthen program developed when we though season starting later. The same people on this board. "he should just retire."

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This is Not the first problem with his knee.
He's had 3 surgeries going back to 2015.

But it's OK.
I'm sure that he has no problem collecting all of that $141M.
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Post#1366 » by 2Mas » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:26 pm

It's now 12 months of this lingering issue.

It's been multiple years of injury prior to 2020.

An undersized 30 year old with continuous knee issues taking up 30% of our cap is a major concern no matter how you spin it.
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Post#1367 » by Parliament10 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:31 pm

2Mas wrote:It's now 12 months of this lingering issue.

It's been multiple years of injury prior to 2020.

An undersized 30 year old with continuous knee issues taking up 30% of our cap is a major concern no matter how you spin it.

Agreed. This is a lingering problem.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2659653-kemba-walker-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-knee-injury#:~:text=Charlotte%20Hornets%20point%20guard%20Kemba,meniscus%20in%20the%20left%20knee.
Kemba Walker Undergoes Surgery to Repair Knee Injury
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MAY 17, 2017


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/15493187/charlotte-hornets-pg-kemba-walker-another-surgery-left-knee
Hornets PG Kemba Walker has another surgery on torn meniscus
May 9, 2016
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Walker also had surgery on the same knee in January of 2015 to repair a torn lateral meniscus that was causing inflammation.
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Post#1368 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:33 pm

Lol. We're not going to be able to trade him at this point, unless you give him away for pennies on the dollar.

And he sure as hell isn't going to retire. Give your heads a shake if you think there is even a remote possibility of this even being considered.

Relax. Breathe. Marcus Smart and Teague will do just fine in terms of holding down the fort.
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Post#1369 » by KL78192020 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:35 pm

2Mas wrote:It's now 12 months of this lingering issue.

It's been multiple years of injury prior to 2020.

An undersized 30 year old with continuous knee issues taking up 30% of our cap is a major concern no matter how you spin it.


If the Celtics can get 2 decent years out of him thats not to bad. Much more than they ever got out or Hayward. But its time to start looking for a replacement long term that can play with Tatum and Brown.
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Post#1370 » by 2Mas » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:44 pm

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Hornets PG Kemba Walker has another surgery on torn meniscus
May 9, 2016
Associated Press

Walker also had surgery on the same knee in January of 2015 to repair a torn lateral meniscus that was causing inflammation.


Yurp & so we're at 2015, 2016, 2017, end of 2019-2021 now. That's ..... not great.

Of course Kemba's not gonna retire. I love Kemba. I think he's awesome. One of my favs in the league.

I don't think we can trade him.

I want him to sit out for a while. Yes we'll be fine in the reg season without him. But I'm worried about him being 100% for the playoffs. At some point, you just don't get back to 100%. That's my worry.
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Post#1371 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:48 pm

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This strikes me as they don't want him to have a setback so they're being extremely cautious
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Post#1372 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:52 pm

Is he getting this injection because his knee is bone one bone? I think Brandon Roy had that same issue and looked how he ended up.
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Post#1373 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 3:58 pm

“We are just being very cautious with Kemba,” Danny Ainge told Toucher and Rich on Tuesday morning. “We didn’t have a long enough offseason. He saw a few different doctors just to research what was going on with his knee and why he didn’t feel as good as he hoped. They all said surgery was definitely not needed. If you strengthen your quad, your hamstring and your gluts, you should be fine. He got a stem cell injection. They take stem cells out of your hip and inject them into your knee. It’s a procedure other players have done and it’s worked for some and it can’t hurt. I think more than anything, this strengthening program — which he has been very diligent in so far — we’re encouraged he will be able to return at full speed. We do not want to rush the program since we are starting (the season) so early. I’m not worried about Kemba. He’ll be back and we’ll give an opportunity for Marcus, Jeff Teague and Payton Pritchard to play some minutes at point guard.”


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Post#1374 » by Homerclease » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:08 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, before the panic police take over, Kemba still averaged 20-5-4 on 57%+ TS last post season. The Celtics had a net rating of +6.2 with him on the court relative to a +0.9 rating without him. Even if his knee is problematic, he’s still a very good player. Lets not lose sight of that

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Post#1375 » by ddb » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:11 pm

Not good news at all about Kemba. I'm not surprised at all by the news as it was pretty clear Danny had major concerns about Kemba when he was trying to trade him this offseason. So essentially what is happening is they are in wait and see mode on Kemba to see how that knee responds to this treatment & rehab. My guess is he will miss the first 2-3 months because ultimately they need him as close to healthy as possible down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Honestly, it's a good thing I'm not the GM of the Celtics because if I were I would send Kemba/Theis/lottery protected 1st to the Thunder right now for Horford/Hill. At least in Horford/Hill you're getting a couple veterans that can help you win games and compete for a title. Kemba is cooked. This isn't going to get any better. Damn. Celtics cannot catch a break on the injury front.
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Post#1376 » by Homerclease » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:19 pm

Anyone expecting Kemba to actually be back in January as well is kidding themselves too. Be prepared for him to be out until March at the absolute earliest IMO. Even when he comes back, we have no idea if his knee will allow him to be the player he once was either. Celtics have to find a way to move on from this contract
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Post#1377 » by 31to6 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:21 pm

I’ve rarely seen the sky fall so much around here.
I get the concern but we’re in bed with this guy so let’s wait and see a little bit before saying he’s never going to get better and needs to retire.
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Post#1379 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:32 pm

At what point do we admit having Rozier on his contract have been the better move? Obviously not yet, but given how this knee is going and we're talking about a 30 year old small PG ... we all know the history of how this turns out.

Someone proven in this system and has chemistry on the court in the playoffs with our core and is in their age range.

On a very untalented team last year Rozier put up:

18 ppg 4 rpg 4 aspg and 1 steal on 42% fg and 40% from 3 and 87% from the line.

Looks like he as so many guards do recently had a breakout year the year after his rookie contract expired.

Kemba had a better season but with Tatum there to take the pressure off

Similar efficiency numbers putting up 20 ppg 4rpg 5 aspg 1 steal

Better... but honestly pretty comparable. And this is with Kemba being healthy for the first half of the year.

This is looking like another mistake Ainge was forced into by Irving dicking us around and getting under everyone's skin, specifically Rozier and Brown's.
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Post#1380 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:44 pm

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Most positive update by far. This tells me that they're aiming for January

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