General Blue Jays Thread

polo007 · Post #381 » by **polo007** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:11 pm

polo007 · Post #382 » by **polo007** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:33 pm

Ong_dynasty · Post #383 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:35 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
We clearly don't live in that world, or else this wouldn't even be a discussion.

Like it or not, the Jays' FO is absolutely taking their off-field antics into account when making decisions.

So one has a different political point of view to you and one celebrated because his life long ambition.
Man horrible people...bad locker room guys

Just because you don't think it's important, you have no idea how the Jays front office is grading these things.

Spencer Hawes was still a decent NBA player in the 2016-17 season when he started entering the locker room wearing a "Hilary for Prison' t-shirt and announcing himself as a loud and proud Trump supporter, which rubbed most of teammates the wrong way. First he was traded and then he never played another NBA game after that season. He was only 28.

And you guys do?

Parataxis · Post #384 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:39 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
So one has a different political point of view to you and one celebrated because his life long ambition.
Man horrible people...bad locker room guys

Just because you don't think it's important, you have no idea how the Jays front office is grading these things.

Spencer Hawes was still a decent NBA player in the 2016-17 season when he started entering the locker room wearing a "Hilary for Prison' t-shirt and announcing himself as a loud and proud Trump supporter, which rubbed most of teammates the wrong way. First he was traded and then he never played another NBA game after that season. He was only 28.

And you guys do?

We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

Ong_dynasty · Post #385 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:44 pm

Parataxis wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Just because you don't think it's important, you have no idea how the Jays front office is grading these things.

Spencer Hawes was still a decent NBA player in the 2016-17 season when he started entering the locker room wearing a "Hilary for Prison' t-shirt and announcing himself as a loud and proud Trump supporter, which rubbed most of teammates the wrong way. First he was traded and then he never played another NBA game after that season. He was only 28.

And you guys do?

We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Is that worse than george springer who we are interested in? Shall I remind you guys which team he came from? And what they did the last 3 years or so? Or shall we just ignore that?

Parataxis · Post #386 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:47 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
And you guys do?

We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Nice job attempting to move the goalposts there. Do I need to remind you of your claim that 100% of the decision is about on-field play? It isn't.

Ong_dynasty wrote:but hey, we live in a world its all about what you do on the field.

Ong_dynasty · Post #387 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:53 pm

Parataxis wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Nice job attempting to move the goalposts there. Do I need to remind you of your claim that 100% of the decision is about on-field play? It isn't.

Ong_dynasty wrote:but hey, we live in a world its all about what you do on the field.

Lol ok. If these are off the field problems. Yea all are guys are saints. I am confused what the problem of wanting these two guys are. And if you answer is they look at off field stuff.. Ofcourse they do. But if that is what stops us getting a cy young winner and a nl MVP / all star. You can do it to any player... hence the springer comment

Parataxis · Post #388 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:20 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Nice job attempting to move the goalposts there. Do I need to remind you of your claim that 100% of the decision is about on-field play? It isn't.

Ong_dynasty wrote:but hey, we live in a world its all about what you do on the field.

Lol ok. If these are off the field problems. Yea all are guys are saints. I am confused what the problem of wanting these two guys are. And if you answer is they look at off field stuff.. Ofcourse they do. But if that is what stops us getting a cy young winner and a nl MVP / all star. You can do it to any player... hence the springer comment

When did I say that there was a problem with wanting these guys?

(spoiler alert: I didn't).

You said that they'd only be judged for on-field prowess. We showed you that they have considered things other than pure skill on-field in the past.

What are you angry about?

The_Hater · Post #389 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:51 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
And you guys do?

We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Is that worse than george springer who we are interested in? Shall I remind you guys which team he came from? And what they did the last 3 years or so? Or shall we just ignore that?

Nobody is ranking what character issue is worse or saying what’s acceptable or what’s not acceptable, that’s just you, the rest of us are only saying that the front office takes these types of things into consideration. If you feel differently, that’s perfectly fine, but you aren’t working in the front office.

Ong_dynasty · Post #390 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:08 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
We know that the Jays FO has taken non playing-related issues into consideration for player personnel decisions before, yes.

So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Is that worse than george springer who we are interested in? Shall I remind you guys which team he came from? And what they did the last 3 years or so? Or shall we just ignore that?

Nobody is ranking what character issue is worse or saying what’s acceptable or what’s not acceptable, that’s just you, the rest of us are only saying that the front office takes these types of things into consideration. If you feel differently, that’s perfectly fine, but you aren’t working in the front office.

once again. how is having a political belief a character issue? or celebrating? That is my main point. because that is what you guys are criticising about these guys.
ofcourse they look at character no duh. but i just do not get how the following can be construed as character issues..

and you guys aren't as well. unless you tell me otherwise. lol.

anyways...

The_Hater · Post #391 » by **The_Hater** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:09 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
So they look at the political party they support (which by the way was almost 50% in the us who has the same opinion as Bauer) and the other basically celebrated his life long dreams. Shall we lock them up? Guys..seriously.. we wouldn’t have half a team if that is the case.

Is that worse than george springer who we are interested in? Shall I remind you guys which team he came from? And what they did the last 3 years or so? Or shall we just ignore that?

Nobody is ranking what character issue is worse or saying what’s acceptable or what’s not acceptable, that’s just you, the rest of us are only saying that the front office takes these types of things into consideration. If you feel differently, that’s perfectly fine, but you aren’t working in the front office.

once again. how is having a political belief a character issue? or celebrating? That is my main point. because that is what you guys are criticising about these guys.
ofcourse they look at character no duh. but i just do not get how the following can be construed as character issues..

and you guys aren't as well. unless you tell me otherwise. lol.

anyways...

How many times are you going to completely miss the point? Is it a reading comprehension issue? Just wondering?

Ong_dynasty · Post #392 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 5:13 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Nobody is ranking what character issue is worse or saying what’s acceptable or what’s not acceptable, that’s just you, the rest of us are only saying that the front office takes these types of things into consideration. If you feel differently, that’s perfectly fine, but you aren’t working in the front office.

once again. how is having a political belief a character issue? or celebrating? That is my main point. because that is what you guys are criticising about these guys.
ofcourse they look at character no duh. but i just do not get how the following can be construed as character issues..

and you guys aren't as well. unless you tell me otherwise. lol.

anyways...

How many times are you going to completely miss the point? Is it a reading comprehension issue? Just wondering?

when someone replies to a suggestion of an mvp player and an allstar and says..
and brings up character issues. explain once again what character issues?
the fact one is a right winger and one celebrated? because that is how this conversation started. or is it just because you want to highlight that.. (who would have thought) that a front office takes into account other things... ok great. like duh..

Parataxis · Post #393 » by **Parataxis** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 6:38 pm

Ong_dynasty wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Ong_dynasty wrote:
once again. how is having a political belief a character issue? or celebrating? That is my main point. because that is what you guys are criticising about these guys.
ofcourse they look at character no duh. but i just do not get how the following can be construed as character issues..

and you guys aren't as well. unless you tell me otherwise. lol.

anyways...

How many times are you going to completely miss the point? Is it a reading comprehension issue? Just wondering?

when someone replies to a suggestion of an mvp player and an allstar and says..
and brings up character issues. explain once again what character issues?
the fact one is a right winger and one celebrated? because that is how this conversation started. or is it just because you want to highlight that.. (who would have thought) that a front office takes into account other things... ok great. like duh..

I don't even know what either of their politics are. Personally, with Bauer, I imagine this issue is his harassment of a woman on Twitter.

But regardless. You claimed that off-field issues would play no part in the Jays decision-making.

That's wrong. It's been wrong in the past and, unless you're suggesting that something major has changed in the past few months, it's wrong now.

You could WISH that it didn't play a role. You could disagree with the Jays letting it play a role.

But to claim that it doesn't play any part? That's just willful blindness to the facts.

polo007 · Post #394 » by **polo007** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 10:27 pm

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Post #395 » by **Schad** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:18 am

Should have known Duncan would join the remarkable collection of Guys that TLR has assembled:

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polo007 · Post #396 » by **polo007** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:42 am

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polo007 · Post #397 » by **polo007** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 9:58 pm

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vaff87 · Post #398 » by **vaff87** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:06 pm

Is there anyone the Jays haven’t been linked to?

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #399 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:21 am

Tell me when there's an actual G*DDAMN SIGNING!!!!!1111 Lolz!

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Post #400 » by **Schad** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:18 am

vaff87 wrote:Is there anyone the Jays haven’t been linked to?

Yeah, we have enough positional flexibility and cash that it makes sense for us to check in on pretty much everyone. Also, because it's known that we have such things, it also means that every agent in baseball is going to report that the Jays are interested in their client, heh.