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Re: Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions 

Post#1841 » by blazza18 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:53 am

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blazza18 wrote:Absolutely certain if you root for a teams front office on a message board you are a friend or family member of someone in that front office.



So being in the majority and constantly criticizing the FO makes me more of a fan.
Im not rooting for the FO if this is directed toward me just cause im not blaming them for single thing doesnt mean im a friend or family.
Im sure its horst fault that our MVP cant hit FTs or commits a foul with 000 left on the clock.
All im saying is that he has gone out and added a key piece this off season to keep giannis happy


We all know Giannis' limitations. Would think a GM would also know and do a better job at surrounding him with good shooters and creators to help out? Maybe even do this before his last year under contract?
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Post#1842 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:09 am

Read on Twitter


Any talk of this in here? Killing pretty much any shot at the Lakers making a run at him. Maybe they know? :reporter:
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Re: Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions 

Post#1843 » by rilamann » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Read on Twitter


Any talk of this in here? Killing pretty much any shot at the Lakers making a run at him. Maybe they know? :reporter:

At this point, we're all just looking for any sort of.....sign.

Ha.Ha.Ha.
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Post#1844 » by MoreTrife » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:03 am

Alright, if he doesn't sign tomorrow morning before media day I think that's a real bad sign. Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21? Like, what is he going to figure out between then and now?

If it isn't signed, he basically says three things, only one of which is good:
1. I'm signing on this specific date (in next few days/weeks)
2. I'm not signing this season, I'm going to wait and see.
3. I'm not trying to distract myself with that, I won't be answering questions about it.

I was pretty confident about it but if it isn't signed tomorrow I'm pretty shook.
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Post#1845 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:11 am

MoreTrife wrote:Alright, if he doesn't sign tomorrow morning before media day I think that's a real bad sign. Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21? Like, what is he going to figure out between then and now?

If it isn't signed, he basically says three things, only one of which is good:
1. I'm signing on this specific date (in next few days/weeks)
2. I'm not signing this season, I'm going to wait and see.
3. I'm not trying to distract myself with that, I won't be answering questions about it.

I was pretty confident about it but if it isn't signed tomorrow I'm pretty shook.


Option 4 could be that we're still discussing the issue, which could mean he's seeking a short term deal (2years with a player option for year 2).
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Post#1846 » by MoreTrife » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:14 am

BucksRule18 wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:Alright, if he doesn't sign tomorrow morning before media day I think that's a real bad sign. Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21? Like, what is he going to figure out between then and now?

If it isn't signed, he basically says three things, only one of which is good:
1. I'm signing on this specific date (in next few days/weeks)
2. I'm not signing this season, I'm going to wait and see.
3. I'm not trying to distract myself with that, I won't be answering questions about it.

I was pretty confident about it but if it isn't signed tomorrow I'm pretty shook.


Option 4 could be that we're still discussing the issue, which could mean he's seeking a short term deal (2years with a player option for year 2).


I think that'd be a pretty big L for the Bucks.
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Post#1847 » by SickMother » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:17 am

MoreTrife wrote:Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21?


Tomorrow is just another day, December 21 is a rare planetary alignment that hasn't happened in like 800 years or some such.

Maybe Giannis is trying to harness the endless power of the infinite void :reporter: :reporter:
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Post#1848 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:20 am

MoreTrife wrote:
BucksRule18 wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:Alright, if he doesn't sign tomorrow morning before media day I think that's a real bad sign. Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21? Like, what is he going to figure out between then and now?

If it isn't signed, he basically says three things, only one of which is good:
1. I'm signing on this specific date (in next few days/weeks)
2. I'm not signing this season, I'm going to wait and see.
3. I'm not trying to distract myself with that, I won't be answering questions about it.

I was pretty confident about it but if it isn't signed tomorrow I'm pretty shook.


Option 4 could be that we're still discussing the issue, which could mean he's seeking a short term deal (2years with a player option for year 2).


I think that'd be a pretty big L for the Bucks.

True, but it's another option. The only positive with this scenario is that if the Bucks do flame out in the playoffs again and Holiday decides to leave, at least we have the option of trading Giannis in the offseason for a large haul. It also gives management an opportunity to trade Middleton for another superstar who's looking to leave his current team. Maybe that would entice Giannis to sign the supermax.
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Post#1849 » by Chad34 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:21 am

MoreTrife wrote:Alright, if he doesn't sign tomorrow morning before media day I think that's a real bad sign. Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21? Like, what is he going to figure out between then and now?

If it isn't signed, he basically says three things, only one of which is good:
1. I'm signing on this specific date (in next few days/weeks)
2. I'm not signing this season, I'm going to wait and see.
3. I'm not trying to distract myself with that, I won't be answering questions about it.

I was pretty confident about it but if it isn't signed tomorrow I'm pretty shook.

If he doesn't sign my view of him might change depending on the circumstances.
I probably couldn't root for him if he went the lakers route. to me he'd be a sellout, and all the loyalty talk, staying with one franchise, and bringing a championship to milwaukee is no longer who he is. granted i'm sure it's hard to stay grounded with everyone singing your praises constantly, but the main thing that endeared me to Giannis was his humility, work ethic and will to be great. i liked him from day one and saw his potential greatness. I could respect a decision to move on more if he's upfront and doesn't hold the franchise hostage but, I hope he stays and feels a reciprocal love and loyalty to milwaukee.
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Post#1850 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:26 am

SickMother wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:Because what's the difference between tomorrow and December 21?


Tomorrow is just another day, December 21 is a rare planetary alignment that hasn't happened in like 800 years or some such.

Maybe Giannis is trying to harness the endless power of the infinite void :reporter: :reporter:


Giannis may use that as an excuse to not sign the supermax deal on the 21st. "I'm so sorry, I couldn't make the 10 PM meeting since my car ran out of gas and I didn't have a charger for my cell phone. What do you mean it's 1 AM December 22nd and I can't sign the supermax deal?! Oh man, I guess we have to wait until next year."
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Post#1851 » by GBBucks » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:40 am

Watch Giannis be the one player Horst refuses to give a player option to hahaha
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Post#1852 » by Iheartfootball » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:21 am

The evolution of this thread is exhibit X,Y, and Z that Bucks fans are a special brand of traumatized.
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Post#1853 » by Sigra » Thu Dec 3, 2020 10:18 am

BucksRule18 wrote:Giannis is a superstar who relies a lot on the coach for guidance. If he loses that trust with Bud, I can see him signing a short term deal with the Bucks at the end of next year if we bring in someone with chops and a proven playoff performance. If he thinks that someone like Spoelstra can bring out the best in him, I can see him making a change just for that.


Bud system makes him look this great in regular season. Bud system brought him MVP awards. Our defense (crowding paint and let them shoot 3s) open so many fast break and semi-fastbreak opportunities for Giannis. Our offense (everybody stay at 3 point line and let Giannis penetrate) works great for Giannis in regular season too. Lopez also helps Giannis looks better not only because he is big who can shoot from 3 but also because Lopez box out a lot but doesn't go for jump a lot. Giannis will never have this rebounding number with some C who goes for rebounds. Middleton is also perfect all-star teammate to make Giannis numbers look better because he doesn't demand ball all the time.

What I want to say is: If/when Giannis leave the Bucks his numbers will not be nearly as good as they are with Bucks under Bud and with this teammates. This is dream environment for him. He will realize that if he leaves but then it will be too late. Then he will look like tall Westbrook.
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Post#1854 » by Sigra » Thu Dec 3, 2020 10:28 am

Iheartfootball wrote:The evolution of this thread is exhibit X,Y, and Z that Bucks fans are a special brand of traumatized.


Agreed. But is it possible that our hero doesn't know that? Why he does this to this fanbase? Why he let us suffer this much for months if he is going to sign supermax anyway?

Say something for Gods sake. Whatever it is. Yes or No but say something.
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Post#1855 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Dec 3, 2020 10:28 am

Iheartfootball wrote:The evolution of this thread is exhibit X,Y, and Z that Bucks fans are a special brand of traumatized.

I think I'm getting bored of basketball generally :-?
It feels like the last exciting team I watched was the Dubs pre-Durant. With Durant it became kind of overkill.
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Post#1856 » by DutchManDanFan » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:01 am

Maybe Giannis doesn’t want to sign the supermax, because he feels it’s too much money. Lets face it. The amount of money is obscene.
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Post#1857 » by fan230 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:09 pm

I am the biggest supporter of Giannis but his delay in signing is making me feel he is not interested in signing. All his talk over the years about loyalty to Milwaukee and the Bucks are beginning to sound hollow to me. I never thought I would say that.
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Post#1858 » by Bucknado » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:12 pm

Wouldn’t it be cool to sign a $200M+ deal on your birthday?!
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Post#1859 » by Cythaps » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:49 pm

Sigra wrote:Bud system makes him look this great in regular season. Bud system brought him MVP awards. Our defense (crowding paint and let them shoot 3s) open so many fast break and semi-fastbreak opportunities for Giannis. Our offense (everybody stay at 3 point line and let Giannis penetrate) works great for Giannis in regular season too. Lopez also helps Giannis looks better not only because he is big who can shoot from 3 but also because Lopez box out a lot but doesn't go for jump a lot. Giannis will never have this rebounding number with some C who goes for rebounds. Middleton is also perfect all-star teammate to make Giannis numbers look better because he doesn't demand ball all the time.

What I want to say is: If/when Giannis leave the Bucks his numbers will not be nearly as good as they are with Bucks under Bud and with this teammates. This is dream environment for him. He will realize that if he leaves but then it will be too late. Then he will look like tall Westbrook.


They're playing him 30 mins, they don't allow him to go for offensive rebounds so that he gets quickly back to defend, his guards are mediocre passers so he doesnt get easy baskets and our abysmal open three percentage is costing him assists. Dream environment because Lopez lets him have a few def rebounds?

Tall Westbrook? So he would be the worst contract in the NBA? Really man, I don't know what to think. Maybe we should trade him to get rid of him before he becomes a burden. :noway:
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Post#1860 » by JHSFIVE » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:26 pm

AD deal done... ok GA, your turn.


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