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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#281 » by Guano » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:13 am

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Guano wrote:it's always ok to dunk on Doc's coaching - but this is wack

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I appreciate the honesty but the lack of accountability is concerning.

Something to note moving forward.



the problem is that sht isn't honest. he wasn't used like Shuttlesworth or JJ. sure he came off screens then held the rock to go 1on1. His usage rate on PnR was high af, too.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#282 » by Knox » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:14 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Why does SAC want to get rid of Hield after they let Bogdanovic go? I thought it was always one or the other and that they decided on keeping Hield.


Supposedly his defense is Knox level? Need someone to confirm this.


I think he also liked a tweet that said something to the effect that he wants out of SAC. So I am sure PR wise he upset the front office
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#283 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:16 am

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Not always. Kawhi got traded to Toronto. PG13 to OKC

I think Boston, Philly and GS can offer better deals than the Nets


If Boston is not offering Brown or Tatum, Philly not offering Simmons or Embiid and what is GS offering? If Brooklyn seriously trades all of their role players + picks, which team can really top that without offering any of their top 2 players?

GS can offer Wiseman, Wiggins, T-Wolves 2021 pick plus future draft picks. If Houston is rebuilding, that's a better package than Brooklyn.

I’m driving Harden straight to Cali’s finest strip club if I’m the Rockets.

Can’t beat that trade from the Warriors.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#284 » by Jeffrey » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:45 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
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If Boston is not offering Brown or Tatum, Philly not offering Simmons or Embiid and what is GS offering? If Brooklyn seriously trades all of their role players + picks, which team can really top that without offering any of their top 2 players?

GS can offer Wiseman, Wiggins, T-Wolves 2021 pick plus future draft picks. If Houston is rebuilding, that's a better package than Brooklyn.

I’m driving Harden straight to Cali’s finest strip club if I’m the Rockets.

Can’t beat that trade from the Warriors.


And what's Brooklyn giving up? The rumor is

Allen, Levert, Dinwiddie, T. Prince + picks?

I do find Warriors package enticing but Houston isn't going to trade him to another Western Conf. team. They will be trading him to the East just so they only see him IN Houston a few times a year.

If Houston thinks the Warriors package is a tad better, he's going to Brooklyn.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#285 » by Jeffrey » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:46 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Why does SAC want to get rid of Hield after they let Bogdanovic go? I thought it was always one or the other and that they decided on keeping Hield.


Supposedly his defense is Knox level? Need someone to confirm this.


Then why didn't they keep Bogdan and trade Hield?


Because they are Sac. Their FO is the same level as Knicks front office for the past decade.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#286 » by louisorr » Thu Dec 3, 2020 6:38 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
Guano wrote:it's always ok to dunk on Doc's coaching - but this is wack

Read on Twitter

I appreciate the honesty but the lack of accountability is concerning.

Something to note moving forward.

maybe he's talking about older Ray because PG is no better or more diverse a player than prime ray ray
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#287 » by Reign23 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 9:49 am

that trade is horrible for Houston. I can't believe was got out of the wall prison so easily.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#288 » by Reign23 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 10:11 am

if I'm houston I'm cashing out BIG TIME on harden now. and I 'don't give a **** about where he wants to play.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#289 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:13 am

Jeffrey wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
This is the NBA, players get traded to the place they want to get traded to. Unless you’re Kristaps Porzinigs


Not always. Kawhi got traded to Toronto. PG13 to OKC

I think Boston, Philly and GS can offer better deals than the Nets


If Boston is not offering Brown or Tatum, Philly not offering Simmons or Embiid and what is GS offering? If Brooklyn seriously trades all of their role players + picks, which team can really top that without offering any of their top 2 players?


I'm a huge Brown fan, but if I'm the Celtics, I'd include him in a deal for Harden b/c Harden would give them a better shot at a championship

76ers should offer Simmons because he's not a good fit w/ Embiid

Warriors can offer Wiseman + the Wolves 2021 pick + a bunch of future picks (+Wiggins for salary)

the Nets offer is probably LeVert, Dinwiddie, Allen + picks that will be late 1sts. It's an ok offer, but all 3 of the above teams can offer better deals than the Nets IMO
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#290 » by iLLmatic860 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:28 am

Harden to Boston would be Kyrie all over again lol
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Post#291 » by Ih8duke » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:02 pm

The fact that Taj has not signed yet is probably the biggest sign that something is going to happen with Randle. He is one of Thibs all time favorites and would sign a 1 year deal to stay home and play for Thibs in a heartbeat. He would also be a perfect mentor for Obi. I know there are no credible sources for the Heild trade but it makes some sense. Allows us to start Obi and them to start Haliburton. It also clears their biggest contract outside of Fox and they are kind of a cheap organization who might look to cut dollars during this time. I’m not saying it will happen, but I would be shocked if we don’t make a move and Taj is not on this team.
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Post#292 » by Tron Carter » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:41 pm

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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#293 » by god shammgod » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:03 pm

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which probably means he heard giannis is staying too. beal will go to the playoffs with russ. there's nobody to get. leon rose is already out of a job unless he can hit it big in the lottery with obi and then again next year.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#294 » by Juco24 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:05 pm

Ih8duke wrote:The fact that Taj has not signed yet is probably the biggest sign that something is going to happen with Randle. He is one of Thibs all time favorites and would sign a 1 year deal to stay home and play for Thibs in a heartbeat. He would also be a perfect mentor for Obi. I know there are no credible sources for the Heild trade but it makes some sense. Allows us to start Obi and them to start Haliburton. It also clears their biggest contract outside of Fox and they are kind of a cheap organization who might look to cut dollars during this time. I’m not saying it will happen, but I would be shocked if we don’t make a move and Taj is not on this team.


It honestly makes sense. Sacramento would get out of that albatross contract and get back a decent combo guard and Randle can play the 4 or 5. Mainly they get back something for a disgruntled player who doesn't have a great trade interest because of his contract and pandemic
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#295 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:10 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Ih8duke wrote:The fact that Taj has not signed yet is probably the biggest sign that something is going to happen with Randle. He is one of Thibs all time favorites and would sign a 1 year deal to stay home and play for Thibs in a heartbeat. He would also be a perfect mentor for Obi. I know there are no credible sources for the Heild trade but it makes some sense. Allows us to start Obi and them to start Haliburton. It also clears their biggest contract outside of Fox and they are kind of a cheap organization who might look to cut dollars during this time. I’m not saying it will happen, but I would be shocked if we don’t make a move and Taj is not on this team.


It honestly makes sense. Sacramento would get out of that albatross contract and get back a decent combo guard and Randle can play the 4 or 5. Mainly they get back something for a disgruntled player who doesn't have a great trade interest because of his contract and pandemic


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Post#296 » by cgmw » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:17 pm

Ih8duke wrote:The fact that Taj has not signed yet is probably the biggest sign that something is going to happen with Randle. He is one of Thibs all time favorites and would sign a 1 year deal to stay home and play for Thibs in a heartbeat. He would also be a perfect mentor for Obi. I know there are no credible sources for the Heild trade but it makes some sense. Allows us to start Obi and them to start Haliburton. It also clears their biggest contract outside of Fox and they are kind of a cheap organization who might look to cut dollars during this time. I’m not saying it will happen, but I would be shocked if we don’t make a move and Taj is not on this team.

I think we all want to believe this so badly. Even Julius must have seen the comments on the Knicks' "Happy Birthday" IG post and understand that he's pretty much universally despised by fans now. The only thing keeping him here is Scott Perry's (read: Steve Mills; read: James Dolan's) stupid pride and maybe the Kenny Payne connection.

I'm sure Rose is just biding time for the best possible deal, and nobody would complain if it's Buddy Heal (until we see his defense and he goes into the standard Knick bricklaying shooting slump).
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Post#297 » by NYKnicksFTW » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:41 pm

I dig it. Ntilikina, Bullock and Randle for Hield and then we claim/sign Zhaire Smith.


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Post#298 » by stuporman » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm

Welp.....looks like AD will be locked up for another 4-5 tears in LA, the dream is dead...again.

Oh wait.... the Knicks will get Chucky Hield....that'll be ..... um.... something.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Chatter 

Post#299 » by iLLmatic860 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:59 pm

stuporman wrote:Welp.....looks like AD will be locked up for another 4-5 tears in LA, the dream is dead...again.

I think Ad and Bookers contract end around the same time

So 2024 or 25 the Caa Wildcats dream will come true

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