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Houston will implode very soon. I don't even know if this team will make the playoffs.
I wonder which random team will make a huge offer for Harden?
I wonder which random team will make a huge offer for Harden?
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Houston will implode very soon. I don't even know if this team will make the playoffs.
I wonder which random team will make a huge offer for Harden?
No clue how Wall or Cousins will look.
I don't see how that backcourt works anyway. Wall is useless without the ball in his hands.
Either way, I'm over it. If Harden wanted to be here that badly he would have did what Westbrook did and refused to show up. Take the offer off of the table and move on.
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Also with Houston trading for Wall how on Earth could they trade for Simmons?
Simmons and Wall would be a disaster. And good luck every trading Wall again. I think this basically takes Philly out.
Others have mentioned Golden State as well. I don't think you got a better offer than Wiggins/Wiseman/Minny pick and other first rounders. Curry and Harden would be pretty crazy too.
But does Harden event want to be there? And does Golden State give up all its assets if Harden might leave in 2 years?
Simmons and Wall would be a disaster. And good luck every trading Wall again. I think this basically takes Philly out.
Others have mentioned Golden State as well. I don't think you got a better offer than Wiggins/Wiseman/Minny pick and other first rounders. Curry and Harden would be pretty crazy too.
But does Harden event want to be there? And does Golden State give up all its assets if Harden might leave in 2 years?
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Also with Houston trading for Wall how on Earth could they trade for Simmons?
Simmons and Wall would be a disaster. And good luck every trading Wall again. I think this basically takes Philly out.
Others have mentioned Golden State as well. I don't think you got a better offer than Wiggins/Wiseman/Minny pick and other first rounders. Curry and Harden would be pretty crazy too.
But does Harden event want to be there? And does Golden State give up all its assets if Harden might leave in 2 years?
Wall and Harden will be a disaster. Harden couldn't make it work with Paul or Westbrook, Wall is an inferior player to both and his game relied heavily on speed and athleticism.
I think we're good where we are right now. As long as KD and Kyrie are healthy we have no urgency to trade for Harden especially when Houston wants to dick around
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MrDollarBills wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Also with Houston trading for Wall how on Earth could they trade for Simmons?
Simmons and Wall would be a disaster. And good luck every trading Wall again. I think this basically takes Philly out.
Others have mentioned Golden State as well. I don't think you got a better offer than Wiggins/Wiseman/Minny pick and other first rounders. Curry and Harden would be pretty crazy too.
But does Harden event want to be there? And does Golden State give up all its assets if Harden might leave in 2 years?
Wall and Harden will be a disaster. Harden couldn't make it work with Paul or Westbrook, Wall is an inferior player to both and his game relied heavily on speed and athleticism.
I think we're good where we are right now. As long as KD and Kyrie are healthy we have no urgency to trade for Harden especially when Houston wants to dick around
I agree there is no urgency on our part and no need to overpay.
I still think we have the most talented team in the NBA and are on track to compete for a Championship without Harden.
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Houston will implode very soon. I don't even know if this team will make the playoffs.
I wonder which random team will make a huge offer for Harden?
Miami and Philly only teams that have a shot at keeping Harden. Maybe LAC if they willing part ways with PG13, long shot imo. We in a driver seat right now, betting against ourselves will be dumb. Marks already showing he ain't willing to do so.
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If only Caris can stay healthy he's that x factor that'll make difference. Some might not agree with me with me but we already seen he got all star game as long as he's healthy.
If only Caris can stay healthy he's that x factor that'll make difference. Some might not agree with me with me but we already seen he got all star game as long as he's healthy.
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Also with Houston trading for Wall how on Earth could they trade for Simmons?
Simmons and Wall would be a disaster. And good luck every trading Wall again. I think this basically takes Philly out.
Others have mentioned Golden State as well. I don't think you got a better offer than Wiggins/Wiseman/Minny pick and other first rounders. Curry and Harden would be pretty crazy too.
But does Harden event want to be there? And does Golden State give up all its assets if Harden might leave in 2 years?
Wall and Harden will be a disaster. Harden couldn't make it work with Paul or Westbrook, Wall is an inferior player to both and his game relied heavily on speed and athleticism.
I think we're good where we are right now. As long as KD and Kyrie are healthy we have no urgency to trade for Harden especially when Houston wants to dick around
I agree there is no urgency on our part and no need to overpay.
I still think we have the most talented team in the NBA and are on track to compete for a Championship without Harden.
You guys are getting this all wrong. This is not overpay, not even close. As a matter of fact, giving up all of the Nets' tradable assets besides KD/Kyrie is a massive underpay.
This means that if Houston wants to hold Harden for a season and trade him next off season, Harden's price tag would come down but he will still be worth all of Nets' tradable assets.
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If only Caris can stay healthy he's that x factor that'll make difference. Some might not agree with me with me but we already seen he got all star game as long as he's healthy.
Preseason pillow talk, I love it!
I've mentioned before, I was confused and disappointed by how both Taurean and Caris approached last season. They should have been fine- tuning their spot-up shooting and stingy defense, so that they would mesh with the superstar duo this year. Instead, they played like they didn't need to play D, and wanted to pound the ball forever.
If either or both of them have turned over a new leaf, and become 3&D stalwarts, we wouldn't need anything else. From Levert's mouth to God's ear...
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haosmoove wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Wall and Harden will be a disaster. Harden couldn't make it work with Paul or Westbrook, Wall is an inferior player to both and his game relied heavily on speed and athleticism.
I think we're good where we are right now. As long as KD and Kyrie are healthy we have no urgency to trade for Harden especially when Houston wants to dick around
I agree there is no urgency on our part and no need to overpay.
I still think we have the most talented team in the NBA and are on track to compete for a Championship without Harden.
You guys are getting this all wrong. This is not overpay, not even close. As a matter of fact, giving up all of the Nets' tradable assets besides KD/Kyrie is a massive underpay.
This means that if Houston wants to hold Harden for a season and trade him next off season, Harden's price tag would come down but he will still be worth all of Nets' tradable assets.
I'm not giving up five first round picks period. Not worth it when we already have a Championship level team.
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MrDollarBills wrote:Papi_swav wrote:I'm surprised Houston actually got a 1st out of this, not sure of the protections tho. but my first instinct is that they are blowing it up. I can't see Harden staying there much long. Unless Christian Wood becomes a 20/10 player (which is kinda possible) then I can see Harden throwing games away.
Westbrook is still a top 15 player, the fact that Washington was able to dump Wall's albatross contract and get the better player is a miracle in itself.
lol na I disagree that Westbrook is a top 15 player. He is sooo overrated. He puts up good stats but he gets swept in the 1st round. I can see him and Beal clashing. I see what your saying but Rockets actually got a 1st out of this. Nobody wanted Westbrook for a reason. I can see Rockets buying out Wall next season and eating large chunk of his contract so they can tank.
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If only Caris can stay healthy he's that x factor that'll make difference. Some might not agree with me with me but we already seen he got all star game as long as he's healthy.
Preseason pillow talk, I love it!
I've mentioned before, I was confused and disappointed by how both Taurean and Caris approached last season. They should have been fine- tuning their spot-up shooting and stingy defense, so that they would mesh with the superstar duo this year. Instead, they played like they didn't need to play D, and wanted to pound the ball forever.
If either or both of them have turned over a new leaf, and become 3&D stalwarts, we wouldn't need anything else. From Levert's mouth to God's ear...
Talking like 6's PO and bubble didn't happen. As I mentioned he's health is his own enemy, the fact he can ball on a all star level is undeniable. Since I got new phone I don't have bookmarks I saved from talking heads on Twitter.
I believe we will run a lot of PHX stuff during Nash era. If you look it up on YouTube that ball moves a lot and often. We forget how often Nash, Bell and Marion moved without the ball. P&R will be essential with Allen or DJ rolling or backing down behind that 3pt line.
Perception of Caris being ball hog is very misleading. We had no other choice but to rely on him to create anything. During 6's series D. LO disappeared and looked like bum at times, his offense was none existent. Caris had to cary us and looked gassed at times ( I know that D. LO wasn't reason we lost so please save those hot takes, I know we got killed inside and had no bigs. ) if Marion was able to make all star team with his broken shot LeVert will definitely be there in this weak EC. I have no doubt media will hype him up to the point where he'll get voted in.
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:haosmoove wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
I agree there is no urgency on our part and no need to overpay.
I still think we have the most talented team in the NBA and are on track to compete for a Championship without Harden.
You guys are getting this all wrong. This is not overpay, not even close. As a matter of fact, giving up all of the Nets' tradable assets besides KD/Kyrie is a massive underpay.
This means that if Houston wants to hold Harden for a season and trade him next off season, Harden's price tag would come down but he will still be worth all of Nets' tradable assets.
I'm not giving up five first round picks period. Not worth it when we already have a Championship level team.
This is James Harden we are talking about. Not only that he will put us as the heavy favorite to win, he also shields us from non-competing in case of injury to one of KD/Kyrie. Our chance to win will go from like 15% to 70%
The five first round picks become three if we finish better than Rockets, which is highly likely. Two of the three remaining picks will be in that 26-30 range, they aren't worth much. Every year there are picks in that range or a little lower available for cash if we really want to pick.
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Russ not being top 15 player is a crazy talk Papi lol. He's top ten as of right now for sure. Player being able to carry a team into PO almost by himself alone puts him into that conversation. He's game not being build for PO is definitely thing that keeps him being elite. Him not being able to shoot will keep him from being top 50 player, other than that he's a freak of the nature.
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You don't give up 3+ picks for 30+ players period, its a crazy talk.
Our role players alone can get us 7th seed while Din and Caris missing games.
Time working against Houston not the other way around lol. Marks made it clear, we like our team as it is and think we best one in EC. Every passing day Hardens value takes a nose dive and I'm here to witness that dumpster fire.
Our role players alone can get us 7th seed while Din and Caris missing games.
Time working against Houston not the other way around lol. Marks made it clear, we like our team as it is and think we best one in EC. Every passing day Hardens value takes a nose dive and I'm here to witness that dumpster fire.
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haosmoove wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:haosmoove wrote:
You guys are getting this all wrong. This is not overpay, not even close. As a matter of fact, giving up all of the Nets' tradable assets besides KD/Kyrie is a massive underpay.
This means that if Houston wants to hold Harden for a season and trade him next off season, Harden's price tag would come down but he will still be worth all of Nets' tradable assets.
I'm not giving up five first round picks period. Not worth it when we already have a Championship level team.
This is James Harden we are talking about. Not only that he will put us as the heavy favorite to win, he also shields us from non-competing in case of injury to one of KD/Kyrie. Our chance to win will go from like 15% to 70%
The five first round picks become three if we finish better than Rockets, which is highly likely. Two of the three remaining picks will be in that 26-30 range, they aren't worth much. Every year there are picks in that range or a little lower available for cash if we really want to pick.
you getting caught you'll get Harden of years past not the one going forward, big difference. Also his value on this team will significantly decrease because we got KD and Kyrie here. Marks is not willing to bet against himself is clear as day. If you didn't get memo please help yourself and listen to Ian Eagle had to say.
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GTR11 wrote:Russ not being top 15 player is a crazy talk Papi lol. He's top ten as of right now for sure. Player being able to carry a team into PO almost by himself alone puts him into that conversation. He's game not being build for PO is definitely thing that keeps him being elite. Him not being able to shoot will keep him from being top 50 player, other than that he's a freak of the nature.
Giannis
Lebron
Harden
Steph
Dame ( waved bye bye to him AND Paul George)
AD
Kawhi
Butler
KD
Kyrie
Tatum
Embiid
Jokic
Beal
Luka
PG13
Towns
Mitchell (took Westbrook out in the 1st round as a rookie, outplayed Westbrook by a mile)
Gobert
Klay
These are all the players I will take over him just off the top of my head. I might even put Jamal Murray over him
Westbrook is overrated. Great athlete and regular season player but he can barely win a game in the post season. He almost cost the Rockets a first round exit. He couldn't do anything with Harden( a top5 player) and he got knocked out the 1st round with PG13 who is another top player. He also had Adams there. He's a stat padder. He also ran KD out of OKC. And now he's over 30 .
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Papi_swav wrote:GTR11 wrote:Russ not being top 15 player is a crazy talk Papi lol. He's top ten as of right now for sure. Player being able to carry a team into PO almost by himself alone puts him into that conversation. He's game not being build for PO is definitely thing that keeps him being elite. Him not being able to shoot will keep him from being top 50 player, other than that he's a freak of the nature.
Giannis
Lebron
Harden
Steph
Dame ( waved bye bye to him AND Paul George)
AD
Kawhi
Butler
KD
Kyrie
Tatum
Embiid
Jokic
Beal
Luka
PG13
Towns
Mitchell (took Westbrook out in the 1st round as a rookie, outplayed Westbrook by a mile)
Gobert
Klay
These are all the players I will take over him just off the top of my head. I might even put Jamal Murray over him
Westbrook is overrated. Great athlete and regular season player but he can barely win a game in the post season. He almost cost the Rockets a first round exit. He couldn't do anything with Harden( a top5 player) and he got knocked out the 1st round with PG13 who is another top player. He also had Adams there. He's a stat padder. He also ran KD out of OKC. And now he's over 30 .
Biid, Kyrie and Klay have no business in top 15 conversion. How many games they logged in past few years? Yeah right and thats not counting them limping around another half of those games.
KAT and Beal can't even get their teams to PO let alone being better than Russ. Gobert? I'll take that as a joke. You also think Steph is going to remain healthy? I sure don't so there goes another one. Butler and Tatum? When they'll get MVP and set records come see me. PG13? C'mon now he was second fiddle to Russ, guy had to hype him up to get max out of him and now you have players talking behind his back in LA.
You can hate Russ game all you want but the fact he's top ten player is a fact.
PS KD coming out from one of the worst type injury that destroyed a lot of carriers, he got a lot to prove whether we like it or not.