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[MaseInYourFace]

I’d rather have Hield than Randle. We don’t have anyone who is that good of a shooter. Shooters make everyone else’s job way easier. Maybe Burks or Quickley are close but Quickley hasn’t even played an nba game yet. Plus aren’t the last two years on Hields contract less?

[Clyde_Style]

I'm really starting to think I can't be part of this board anymore. For years I heard people screaming for a proper rebuild. Now that we are doing it, we are screaming to sign free agents. We will suck this year. Maybe next. It is the first year of a real rebuild. We have never done it before. We did it one year to get RJ. The next 2 drafts are the drafts to do it for. If we get a good pick this year and possibly next we could be set for the next decade. Can you all calm it down please and be patient. Getting Chris Paul or Hayward would have helped maybe fight for an 8th seed. I wanna one day fight for championships.

I'm satisfied with the current situation going forward. No big trades was a great thing. We're in the perfect position to build a really good team over the next 2-3 years.

[DowNY]

Buddy’s contract is $24M this year and then it descends. His last year is at $19M. Didn’t know that until today.

[RHODEY]

He's the type of shooter you'll covet sooner than later.

Yeah he's like Nesmith only a lot older and much more expensive. If we are still coveting that we can just use the Dalals pick in the next draft to get it.

Fair enough, I'd support this. Top level shooters are hard to get though. I don't think that's appreciated enough around here. Obviously we don't have that.

What's more, we are paying mediocre players without any standout skill right now during our rebuild. Might as well pay someone you could still use down the road.

But if we can get a gunner of his caliber on a rookie deal, I'm in.

I hear you, but the keep in mind that the people we are paying are on short term or cheap trade friendly contracts - that is by intention IMO. It s looking like we are for once targeting the draft. I agree true Snipers are not easy to get , but foundational pieces have to be the priority IMO.

[Capn'O]

I'm really starting to think I can't be part of this board anymore. For years I heard people screaming for a proper rebuild. Now that we are doing it, we are screaming to sign free agents. We will suck this year. Maybe next. It is the first year of a real rebuild. We have never done it before. We did it one year to get RJ. The next 2 drafts are the drafts to do it for. If we get a good pick this year and possibly next we could be set for the next decade. Can you all calm it down please and be patient. Getting Chris Paul or Hayward would have helped maybe fight for an 8th seed. I wanna one day fight for championships.

I'm satisfied with the current situation going forward. No big trades was a great thing. We're in the perfect position to build a really good team over the next 2-3 years.

Agreed. Most of my complaints are quibbles but I do think we could have built our trade capital base more without hurting the bottom line of bottoming out.

That said, it still won't be a proper rebuild until we offer a second contract to a rookie scale player. But we didn't blow anything and added at least one more young stud. I think Obi will impress.

[Tron Carter]

I'm really starting to think I can't be part of this board anymore. For years I heard people screaming for a proper rebuild. Now that we are doing it, we are screaming to sign free agents. We will suck this year. Maybe next. It is the first year of a real rebuild. We have never done it before. We did it one year to get RJ. The next 2 drafts are the drafts to do it for. If we get a good pick this year and possibly next we could be set for the next decade. Can you all calm it down please and be patient. Getting Chris Paul or Hayward would have helped maybe fight for an 8th seed. I wanna one day fight for championships.

I'm satisfied with the current situation going forward. No big trades was a great thing. We're in the perfect position to build a really good team over the next 2-3 years.

I feel like after we were free’d from the prospects of trading for westbrook or wall this board has actively tried to curate rumors fishing for more creative bad trade ideas for the knicks. Idgi

[Knicksrule2k4]

I traded DSJ and Randle for Mike Conley and I traded Iggy, Payton, Bullock and a first and a second for Oladipo and I’m 14-9 on 2k lol

[SelbyCobra]

Buddy’s contract is $24M this year and then it descends. His last year is at $19M. Didn’t know that until today.

Ken Catanella is the equivalent to Brock Aller over there. He's a wizard with the financials. After their whole FO blew up and then melted down this summer, Kings fans almost unanimously had him as the one guy to keep despite being furious with ownership/management like we always are.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

He's the type of shooter you'll covet sooner than later.

Yeah he's like Nesmith only a lot older and much more expensive. If we are still coveting that we can just use the Dalals pick in the next draft to get it.

Fair enough, I'd support this. Top level shooters are hard to get though. I don't think that's appreciated enough around here. Obviously we don't have that.

What's more, we are paying mediocre players without any standout skill right now during our rebuild. Might as well pay someone you could still use down the road.

But if we can get a gunner of his caliber on a rookie deal, I'm in.

We need versatile players, and Buddy is not that, he's just a shooter and not much else but he's paid like a number 2 guy. I think too many Knicks fans look at all the good teams around the league, then come up with an amalgamation of all the things we need based on the things other teams have.

What we need is versatile talent, that is the path to winning, versatility and players who have unique skills that make it difficult to matchup with. What does Hield do that presents a difficult matchup? Nothing really, and he negatively impacts us on the defensive end too.

You don't need a Klay/Curry type of shooter to win the title, just good enough to make teams pay, and those type of shooters aren't that hard to find when you have the right core pieces.

[HerSports85]

The NBA has released every City edition jersey but the Knicks

Lol I just noticed this too

[knickstape4ever]

The NBA has released every City edition jersey but the Knicks

Lol I just noticed this too

interesting....Wob and Rovell tweeted out all 30, but NBA hasn't officially announced it/not on the NBA store

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could it be that the rumored design won't be it? I personally don't like it. I think the Knicks, Cavs, Nets, Pelicans have the worst City edition uni's

[SelbyCobra]

Yeah he's like Nesmith only a lot older and much more expensive. If we are still coveting that we can just use the Dalals pick in the next draft to get it.

Fair enough, I'd support this. Top level shooters are hard to get though. I don't think that's appreciated enough around here. Obviously we don't have that.

What's more, we are paying mediocre players without any standout skill right now during our rebuild. Might as well pay someone you could still use down the road.

But if we can get a gunner of his caliber on a rookie deal, I'm in.

We need versatile players, and Buddy is not that, he's just a shooter and not much else but he's paid like a number 2 guy. I think too many Knicks fans look at all the good teams around the league, then come up with an amalgamation of all the things we need based on the things other teams have.

What we need is versatile talent, that is the path to winning, versatility and players who have unique skills that make it difficult to matchup with. What does Hield do that presents a difficult matchup? Nothing really, and he negatively impacts us on the defensive end too.

You don't need a Klay/Curry type of shooter to win the title, just good enough to make teams pay, and those type of shooters aren't that hard to find when you have the right core pieces.

As someone who would be happy if they got Buddy without giving up draft capital, I can get down with your perspective. He's certainly got flaws and hasn't been part of winning - for these reasons I have no problem leaving him in SAC and pursuing alternative routes; he's not a must have or anything to me. I think my personal pushback on the dismissal of Hield though is the idea that he's "just a shooter" as a pejorative, or that you can find dudes like him at the back end of a weak draft (Nesmith).

Hield is a pretty incredible VOLUME shooter when comparing him to everyone else in the NBA. These are the top 15 guys in the league in terms of 3PA per game last year (the only 15 to average at least eight 3PA a game), and what they shot:



Hield had the 5th most 3PA per game in the NBA last season, and amongst the highest volume shooters had the 4th best 3P% behind only Duncan Robinson, Bertans, and Dame. The man is another level of shooter beyond the "just a shooter" dismissal in my opinion.

[Chanel Bomber]

The NBA has released every City edition jersey but the Knicks

Lol I just noticed this too

interesting....Wob and Rovell tweeted out all 30, but NBA hasn't officially announced it/not on the NBA store

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could it be that the rumored design won't be it? I personally don't like it. I think the Knicks, Cavs, Nets, Pelicans have the worst City edition uni's

They posted a picture of every team in their Facebook post but the Knicks. It's nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it's very symbolic of how irrelevant the Knicks have become.

There are some awesome designs in there, particularly the Grizzlies, Hornets, Nets, Spurs, Timberwolves. I actually like the Knicks design, but the black circle on the jersey is gonna look cheap af. They should've sewn the letters in all white directly onto the jersey.

[SelbyCobra]

Lol I just noticed this too

interesting....Wob and Rovell tweeted out all 30, but NBA hasn't officially announced it/not on the NBA store

Read on Twitter

could it be that the rumored design won't be it? I personally don't like it. I think the Knicks, Cavs, Nets, Pelicans have the worst City edition uni's

They posted a picture of every team in their Facebook post but the Knicks. It's nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it's very symbolic of how irrelevant the Knicks have become.

There are some awesome designs in there, particularly the Grizzlies, Hornets, Nets, Spurs, Timberwolves. I actually like the Knicks design, but the black circle on the jersey is gonna look cheap af. They should've sewn the letters in all white directly onto the jersey.

Knicks aren't good, but Celtics caught a massive L here. Those look like what they'd give out to anyone who showed up to a tryout open to the public.

[knickstape4ever]

interesting....Wob and Rovell tweeted out all 30, but NBA hasn't officially announced it/not on the NBA store

Read on Twitter

could it be that the rumored design won't be it? I personally don't like it. I think the Knicks, Cavs, Nets, Pelicans have the worst City edition uni's

They posted a picture of every team in their Facebook post but the Knicks. It's nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it's very symbolic of how irrelevant the Knicks have become.

There are some awesome designs in there, particularly the Grizzlies, Hornets, Nets, Spurs, Timberwolves. I actually like the Knicks design, but the black circle on the jersey is gonna look cheap af. They should've sewn the letters in all white directly onto the jersey.

Knicks aren't good, but Celtics caught a massive L here. Those look like what they'd give out to anyone who showed up to a tryout open to the public.

yeah, Knicks aren't good at all. I much prefer last years City Edition. good idea to try a black uni, but the design ain't it; don't like that it says "City Never Sleeps"

I think the Nets are a big L, that design is fugly. it's literally the work of a toddler

Suns, Lakers, Wizards, Spurs, Warriors, Heat are some good ones

[god shammgod]

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[K_ick_God]

interesting....Wob and Rovell tweeted out all 30, but NBA hasn't officially announced it/not on the NBA store

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could it be that the rumored design won't be it? I personally don't like it. I think the Knicks, Cavs, Nets, Pelicans have the worst City edition uni's

They posted a picture of every team in their Facebook post but the Knicks. It's nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it's very symbolic of how irrelevant the Knicks have become.

There are some awesome designs in there, particularly the Grizzlies, Hornets, Nets, Spurs, Timberwolves. I actually like the Knicks design, but the black circle on the jersey is gonna look cheap af. They should've sewn the letters in all white directly onto the jersey.

Knicks aren't good, but Celtics caught a massive L here. Those look like what they'd give out to anyone who showed up to a tryout open to the public.

I think it's supposed to look like a championship banner, which I think is kind of cool. Do you see it?

[K_ick_God]

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[Clyde_Style]

I'm really starting to think I can't be part of this board anymore. For years I heard people screaming for a proper rebuild. Now that we are doing it, we are screaming to sign free agents. We will suck this year. Maybe next. It is the first year of a real rebuild. We have never done it before. We did it one year to get RJ. The next 2 drafts are the drafts to do it for. If we get a good pick this year and possibly next we could be set for the next decade. Can you all calm it down please and be patient. Getting Chris Paul or Hayward would have helped maybe fight for an 8th seed. I wanna one day fight for championships.

I'm satisfied with the current situation going forward. No big trades was a great thing. We're in the perfect position to build a really good team over the next 2-3 years.

Agreed. Most of my complaints are quibbles but I do think we could have built our trade capital base more without hurting the bottom line of bottoming out.

That said, it still won't be a proper rebuild until we offer a second contract to a rookie scale player. But we didn't blow anything and added at least one more young stud. I think Obi will impress.

If Obi shows out everything changes. The media, the FO's plans, the fan chatter, all will totally reset. Just watch it happen overnight if he starts out strong.

I posted at length in the cap space thread about this, but I do think this is a real sweet spot for a new prez to take over. Rose seems to know it and is determined not to blow it with any rash starphucker moves.

That initial prudence, combined with the revamped FO and coaching staff and what I think will in hindsight be a great draft (Obi at 8 and a slick move to get a couple slots higher in case Quickley was gone by 27), plus big cap space and flexibility going forward means we're far better off than last year. A lot has transpired with the thankful exception of the big splashy deal or giant bad contract for assets some guys perpetually crave (as if it is the only or best thing to do).

[god shammgod]

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well damn leon