Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments.

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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#181 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Thu Dec 3, 2020 10:14 pm

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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Stars blowing double digits leads and not scoring in the 4th isn't a coaching problem. The seem like we saying the stars good enough to get the lead but the coach was at fault for them not winning.

Clippers were up 3-1. Hard to say they was out coached.

It's especially strange when you consider, IIRC, they were leading in every single game.

So obviously you were doing something right.


You lose each game the same way it’s clearly something done wrong. I don’t see see other coaches getting 3-1 beat this often

The wrong is your stars going ice cold in the 4th 3 games in a row.
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#182 » by IgorK » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:08 pm

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norcocredo wrote:Doc is the most overrated coach there is.


No doubt. I hope Philly is his last chance to prove he's nothing more than a fraud. For years I've said that his 2008 championship was a product of an unprecedented collection of star talent combined with the best defensive assistant coach in the league at the time. His coaching had less to do with that title than people realize.


Agreed. That Boston team was so damn good. Only injuries derailed a dynasty. No offense to you guys but had KG been able to stay healthy, I think Boston definitely would have won at least 1 more ring, if not 2 more. They took that Magic team you faced in the finals to 7 games without KG in 2009. And while he played in 2010, he definitely had lost a bit since 2008. He just never looked the same after those knee injuries.


Injuries are part of the game. Most champions were benefactors of an injury on the opposing team. That's just the way it is.

I do think KG went all-in in 2008 and was never the same after. That was the ultimate "super nova" season I've ever witnessed in league history from a superstar.
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#183 » by XTC » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:43 pm

Maybe Paul George should stop complaining and blaming others.

Not the biggest Doc fan at all, but if he really did use you like Redick then kudos, because he also made you ahoot your best 3PT% of you career, and highest TS%.
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#184 » by bamheat » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:58 pm

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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#185 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Fri Dec 4, 2020 3:03 am

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Post#186 » by oldshoolballer » Fri Dec 4, 2020 4:44 am

I'd take JJ Reddick over what I saw from playoff P
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

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Post#188 » by Roscoe Sheed » Fri Dec 4, 2020 5:03 am

oldshoolballer wrote:I'd take JJ Reddick over what I saw from playoff P

Redick often under-performed in the playoffs too with the Clippers
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#189 » by Camping Fan » Fri Dec 4, 2020 5:33 am

I'm not giving Paul George a free pass, but he does have some valid points

1. Bad Coaching... This team was up 3 to 1 and should have been able to close the series out,. So yes Rivers wasnt making adjustments

2. Lost faith in the coach? I think this much was evident... No one believed in Rivers any more

3. The Clippers Curse? I don't know who put that curse on them, but someone with some black magic really hates the Clippers...lmao
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#190 » by Camping Fan » Fri Dec 4, 2020 5:44 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
shangrila wrote:It's especially strange when you consider, IIRC, they were leading in every single game.

So obviously you were doing something right.


You lose each game the same way it’s clearly something done wrong. I don’t see see other coaches getting 3-1 beat this often

The wrong is your stars going ice cold in the 4th 3 games in a row.

But every star is nothing without good coaching. The coach is in a position to see the good and the ugly, so if Rivers didn't make any adjustments, he is to be blamed and I remember a lot of fans complaining about that... Its a legitimate point
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#191 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Dec 4, 2020 6:35 am

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You lose each game the same way it’s clearly something done wrong. I don’t see see other coaches getting 3-1 beat this often

The wrong is your stars going ice cold in the 4th 3 games in a row.

But every star is nothing without good coaching. The coach is in a position to see the good and the ugly, so if Rivers didn't make any adjustments, he is to be blamed and I remember a lot of fans complaining about that... Its a legitimate point

Every star like who? We seen plenty stars with bad coaches .

Doc isn't shooting the ball off the side of the goal. Bad coaching got them up 3-1 and double digit leads in every loss ? Coaching wasn't great but PG have no business talking about coaching adjustments after his post season play.

Then lying about how he was used like video and stats don't exist lol
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Post#192 » by EArl » Fri Dec 4, 2020 7:03 am

Honestly Paul George is a coward saying all this now that Doc isn't on the team. They guy needs to just shut up and play. No excuses.

You can certainly blame one or two losses on a coach, but at the end of the day the team lost because its star players didn't perform to their expectations. The second that Paul George accepts that and moves on, he can move on from that bad mentality that he has.
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#193 » by Chandan » Fri Dec 4, 2020 7:46 am

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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#194 » by lautreamont » Fri Dec 4, 2020 8:20 am

I think it's fine for PG to criticize Doc on the way out the door as long as he also says "I was also terrible and I need to be better."
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Re: Paul George: Doc Rivers tried to use me like JJ Redick + made no playoff adjustments. 

Post#195 » by sacking123 » Fri Dec 4, 2020 8:57 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:The wrong is your stars going ice cold in the 4th 3 games in a row.

But every star is nothing without good coaching. The coach is in a position to see the good and the ugly, so if Rivers didn't make any adjustments, he is to be blamed and I remember a lot of fans complaining about that... Its a legitimate point

Every star like who? We seen plenty stars with bad coaches .

Doc isn't shooting the ball off the side of the goal. Bad coaching got them up 3-1 and double digit leads in every loss ? Coaching wasn't great but PG have no business talking about coaching adjustments after his post season play.

Then lying about how he was used like video and stats don't exist lol


This is the thing. It looked like the Lakers were going to run out of gas in the bubble IMO and then you see the way they played in the last couple of rounds (not every game was pretty) and that is how a team that is together and wanting 1 thing, 1 common goal, plays.
I'm not saying coach Vogel isn't good because he clearly is, and IMO Doc Rivers is possibly the most overrated coach going around (motivational? Give me a break) but the Lakers' leadership was on another level. That started with the top and went all the way down to the bottom of the roster.
PG needs to just watch the entire POs, watch the effort that went into it, not just from the Lakers, but the Nuggets, Celtics and Heat too, and realize there is another gear leaders get to. Not just on the court, off the court, having the respect of your teammates and them knowing you have their best interests at heart too. It's a process and it doesn't just happen when you get to the 1st, 2nd round of the POs etc.
I don't see that type of commitment from PG, can anyone actually see that? KL is an assassin on the floor, but does he pull the team together when it matters? Will he have their back when the chips are down? Sometimes, sure. I put him in the same class. I get the feeling that in Toronto Lowry was much more important than we give credit for (Raptors fans excluded).
Long story short, PG and the Clippers will never, ever win a title with the attitude that exists amongst the playing ranks right now. It simply won't happen, they're not good enough in a series that will shift, which when you get to the pointy end, most will.
Here's hoping the Clippers can stop throwing everyone else under the bus and focus on one goal because when you play with one eye looking over your shoulder you don't have your eyes on the prize.
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Post#196 » by NPZ » Fri Dec 4, 2020 9:16 am

norcocredo wrote:Doc is the most overrated coach there is.


How well would they have done w/ Vogel as their HC? W/ Kidd/Hollins.
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Post#198 » by McBubbles » Fri Dec 4, 2020 10:04 am

IgorK wrote:
norcocredo wrote:Doc is the most overrated coach there is.


No doubt. I hope Philly is his last chance to prove he's nothing more than a fraud. For years I've said that his 2008 championship was a product of an unprecedented collection of star talent combined with the best defensive assistant coach in the league at the time. His coaching had less to do with that title than people realize.


Not only that, but the 08 Celtics have the worst postseason record for a championship team ever, going 16-10 I believe and playing down to their competition several times.
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Post#199 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Dec 4, 2020 10:22 am

bamheat wrote:Man Kawhi really picked the worst teammate ever to be his running man.


With how poorly Pandemic P played, I'm really shocked that he has audacity to call our his coach. Regardless of how poor Doc was, Playoff P was hands down the worst playoff supposed "star", "superstar" of the last postseason.
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Post#200 » by Wilfried » Fri Dec 4, 2020 2:04 pm

norcocredo wrote:Doc is the most overrated coach there is.


Coaching is overrated too

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