The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part IV

[Iverson Armband]

If Harden really wants out of the Rox then why would he demand for Wall? But then if my memory serves me right, LeBron asked the Heat to draft Shabazz Napier to replace Chalmers then later opt to sign with the Cavs in the same offseason.

Do you guys feel like Morey is suddenly cuddling Ben on his recent interviews after his presscon where he said like this team is Jojo’s?

Honestly, when i listen to Morey on his recent interviews I’m trying to figure out if he is just bluffing or is he really sincere that he really think of Ben that highly. A part of me believes that he knows Ben is an overvalued asset.

Deep inside me, im asking myself.. does this guy know that the reason Ben has assisted the most threes is because of our pace, our system and how much this team passes the ball rather than him breaking down the defense and getting our 3pt shooters open looks consistently?

Just fyi it’s coddling not cuddling in this case lol.

Was it reported that he demanded for Wall or did the Rockets just make the trade without consulting him because Westbrook wanted out?

I think Morey may think that trading Simmons for Harden is smart but it is selling too low on a huge asset in Simmons and he knows that Bullet is all we have left to compete around Embiid so he is saving it for maximum possible value.

The only team that would be selling low is Houston because of the situation Harden put them in.

[Stanford]

Based on how he just answered Howard Eskin's question, I don't think we'll be seeing Ben take a 3 this year.

[Sportfan73]

Based on how he just answered Howard Eskin's question, I don't think we'll be seeing Ben take a 3 this year.

I honestly think you’re wayyy off base. One no one talking about it and he’s playing free he will take them

[kio80]

Based on how he just answered Howard Eskin's question, I don't think we'll be seeing Ben take a 3 this year.

What did he say?


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[Sixersftw]

Based on how he just answered Howard Eskin's question, I don't think we'll be seeing Ben take a 3 this year.

I honestly think you’re wayyy off base. One no one talking about it and he’s playing free he will take them

I hope you're right but we don't have any frame of reference that would indicate that.

[HardenToSixers]

Based on how he just answered Howard Eskin's question, I don't think we'll be seeing Ben take a 3 this year.

All Sixers fans should resign themselves to Simmons not taking a 3 in anything other than a completely meaningless setting. It's a waste of time to kid ourselves otherwise. The realistic significant step for him to take is trying to have Westbrook-level aggressiveness (like he has done in short spells of games over the last couple years) and upping his free throw %.

[76ciology]

Yup.

Sounds to me DHO and more PnR involving him and Biid. No jumpers while focus on getting to the line.

[Iverson Armband]

Absolute hilarious irony in Ben mentioning the Clippers as one of the teams he could tell weren’t being held accountable last year

[HotelVitale]

Yup.Sounds to me DHO and more PnR involving him and Biid. No jumpers while focus on getting to the line.

He needs to learn how to take good short jumpers off the drive before he should start bothering with anything else, that’s close to his current game and it’s relatively easy to do. We can all remember dozens of stupid hard fade-aways and weird one leg jumpers he’s taken in the past couple years but I can’t recall many simple in rhythm short pull ups when the defense leans the wrong way. That’s something he should be able to do to help take the driving game to the next level.

[Negrodamus]

Kinda like how candid Ben was during his interview.

[GoSixersBro]

If Harden really wants out of the Rox then why would he demand for Wall? But then if my memory serves me right, LeBron asked the Heat to draft Shabazz Napier to replace Chalmers then later opt to sign with the Cavs in the same offseason.

Do you guys feel like Morey is suddenly cuddling Ben on his recent interviews after his presscon where he said like this team is Jojo’s?

Honestly, when i listen to Morey on his recent interviews I’m trying to figure out if he is just bluffing or is he really sincere that he really think of Ben that highly. A part of me believes that he knows Ben is an overvalued asset.

Deep inside me, im asking myself.. does this guy know that the reason Ben has assisted the most threes is because of our pace, our system and how much this team passes the ball rather than him breaking down the defense and getting our 3pt shooters open looks consistently?

Just fyi it’s coddling not cuddling in this case lol.

Was it reported that he demanded for Wall or did the Rockets just make the trade without consulting him because Westbrook wanted out?

I think Morey may think that trading Simmons for Harden is smart but it is selling too low on a huge asset in Simmons and he knows that Bullet is all we have left to compete around Embiid so he is saving it for maximum possible value.

The only team that would be selling low is Houston because of the situation Harden put them in.

Imagine a Wall-Simmons backcourt.

[stormi]

I hope you're right but we don't have any frame of reference that would indicate that.

Why not?

During the initial lockdown, Ben Simmons under his own admittance went and sought professional counselling about whatever issues he had shooting 3's whether it was something psychological or confidence wise - he wanted to figure it out. And then he came to the NBA bubble and shot multiple 3's in a game for the first time in his career, and hit one c&s standing in the corner. And then he injured his knee. Who knows what will happen this upcoming year, but the most recent evidence we have of Ben Simmons is of a player that understands his limits and wants to expand his game.

[Sixersftw]

I hope you're right but we don't have any frame of reference that would indicate that.

Why not?

During the initial lockdown, Ben Simmons under his own admittance went and sought professional counselling about whatever issues he had shooting 3's whether it was something psychological or confidence wise - he wanted to figure it out. And then he came to the NBA bubble and shot multiple 3's in a game for the first time in his career, and hit one c&s standing in the corner. And then he injured his knee. Who knows what will happen this upcoming year, but the most recent evidence we have of Ben Simmons is of a player that understands his limits and wants to expand his game.

Sure, he took 3 threes in 6 games and I would absolutely take that from him at this point. However, the original statement of him playing free = he will launch more three's has no basis in past performance. I've seen Ben play absolutely dominant games but it has never equated to him taking jumpers let alone 3s. Ben isn't Hibachi or Kobe or the like. Freedom isn't him launching heat check jumpers from everything we've seen. Playing free, offensively, for Ben has been creative halfcourt passing, straight line attacking and going **** in transition.

I know he's your guy but nothing you said has anything to do with the original point. However, I hope he is changing his mindset and works on it. I'm not holding my breath but as a fan of the Sixers and Ben, I hope he does.

[HotelVitale]

Illustration of what I was talking about above. The video below is a comp of jumpers Simmons made season before last, almost all of them are off iso post-ups and that's just a bad place for him to take jumpers out of. He needs to work more on getting jumpers that are in rhythm with his drives--pullups that he can rise UP off the drive on, not rise BACK with a big dude draped on him. Most of these shots below I would say are bad shots that he shouldn't take, only exceptions are a few like the one starting at 0:14 (and probably the last one too), which still aren't great but are in rhythm and where he starts his shooting motion while still moving off his drive. Compare that to many of the others (say one that happens at 0:44 or 0:29) where he shoots from a stationary spot and has to fade away so far and deep that he ends up with tough, tough shots that would require Korver-like touch to hit consistently.

Watch on YouTube

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EDIT: I guess some of the problem is that he a) doesn't shoot quickly or with great extension and b) is always driving at full speed, but he still needs to try to shoot regular pull-ups instead of those ridiculous hard fades, thems just aren't winning shots. Hopefully with him running more pn'r he can focus on not always driving at 150% demon speed and maybe focus on stepping into a FT line jumper if the defense goes under and inside a screen. And again a pull-UP not a pull-6 or 8 feet back.

[stormi]

Playing free, offensively, for Ben has been creative halfcourt passing, straight line attacking and going **** in transition.

Oh, I was just doing a drive by I didn't see the other comment. In terms of what you said I agree 100%. It would be nice to see Simmons activate that motor more consistently, and not only when Joel Embiid sits. (if it's possible)

[HardenToSixers]

Illustration of what I was talking about above. The video below is a comp of jumpers Simmons made season before last, almost all of them are off iso post-ups and that's just a bad place for him to take jumpers out of. He needs to work more on getting jumpers that are in rhythm with his drives--pullups that he can rise UP off the drive on, not rise BACK with a big dude draped on him. Most of these shots below I would say are bad shots that he shouldn't take, only exceptions are a few like the one starting at 0:14 (and probably the last one too), which still aren't great but are in rhythm and where he starts his shooting motion while still moving off his drive. Compare that to many of the others (say one that happens at 0:44 or 0:29) where he shoots from a stationary spot and has to fade away so far and deep that he ends up with tough, tough shots that would require Korver-like touch to hit consistently.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=NBA

EDIT: I guess some of the problem is that he a) doesn't shoot quickly or with great extension and b) is always driving at full speed, but he still needs to try to shoot regular pull-ups instead of those ridiculous hard fades, thems just aren't winning shots. Hopefully with him running more pn'r he can focus on not always driving at 150% demon speed and maybe focus on stepping into a FT line jumper if the defense goes under and inside a screen. And again a pull-UP not a pull-6 or 8 feet back.

he should start by not shooting left-handed jumpers with right-handed jumper positioning.

[stormi]

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an 80+% ft shooter... -.-

[Arsenal]

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an 80+% ft shooter... -.-

LOL what a mess. Everything about his shot looks like a right handed shot, except the guide hand and shooting hand are switched.

[76ciology]

We can’t force him to shoot if he knows he’s a horrible shooter. The team just have to adjust. The way I see it, he’s gonna play that Draymond Green role again for the Sixers with the hand offs but with more opportunistic scoring in transition and halfcourt.

I think he’s satisfied being an effective screen setter, he talked about Seth Curry getting open looks with his screens.

And it is likely to be this way in the future.

..just make sure that we also address Biid’s concern about offense in the play-offs.

And until otherwise, we should accept his limitations and live with it.

[stormi]

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an 80+% ft shooter... -.-

LOL what a mess. Everything about his shot looks like a right handed shot, except the guide hand and shooting hand are switched.

He induced a handicap on himself to make the game more challenging

#justgoatthings