2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

[ShotCreator]

And Christian Wood is clearly, just at least as good as Bam as a talent. Impact metrics all say better. I don’t necessarily disagree. But Bam isn’t a small city economy better than Christian Wood, or even close.

Again, don’t question it. Wood just had a season like 17 Jokic more or less. Bad fit with plodding center. Give him minutes, and usage? Clear all-NBA player.

KD/Towns/AD archetype offensively and to cite his age ignores how his growth has been inherently stunted by bad scouting and coaching. Again, he doesn’t even need to get better. He’ll be All-NBA caliber as a 2020 season clone.

But if you actually watch Christian Wood, he could clearly be better. His handle is great at 6’11, and he’s very coordinated. He could improve immensely as a passer and by then we’re talking a whole different tier.

This is a crazy take, imho. Wood had one good statictical season on a lottery team and Bam was 2nd best player on a finals team with a 18/10/4.5 line on 62% TS

That has nothing to do with talent though.

And when Christian Wood played he was dominant. Bam is just good.

It’s easier for me to be sure about this because of my DFS play though. Anybody in DFS knows how good Wood is because you have to research him if you wanna risk it and put him in a lineup for real money.

And anybody who does it knows, he is a big impact monster at this point and had a short leash.

Whole season flukes really aren’t a thing. You don’t fluke into NBA dominance.

[Mos_Heat]

And Christian Wood is clearly, just at least as good as Bam as a talent. Impact metrics all say better. I don’t necessarily disagree. But Bam isn’t a small city economy better than Christian Wood, or even close.

Again, don’t question it. Wood just had a season like 17 Jokic more or less. Bad fit with plodding center. Give him minutes, and usage? Clear all-NBA player.

KD/Towns/AD archetype offensively and to cite his age ignores how his growth has been inherently stunted by bad scouting and coaching. Again, he doesn’t even need to get better. He’ll be All-NBA caliber as a 2020 season clone.

But if you actually watch Christian Wood, he could clearly be better. His handle is great at 6’11, and he’s very coordinated. He could improve immensely as a passer and by then we’re talking a whole different tier.

This is a crazy take, imho. Wood had one good statictical season on a lottery team and Bam was 2nd best player on a finals team with a 18/10/4.5 line on 62% TS

That has nothing to do with talent though.

And when Christian Wood played he was dominant. Bam is just good.

It’s easier for me to be sure about this because of my DFS play though. Anybody in DFS knows how good Wood is because you have to research him if you wanna risk it and put him in a lineup for real money.

And anybody who does it knows, he is a big impact monster at this point and had a short leash.

Whole season flukes really aren’t a thing. You don’t fluke into NBA dominance.

He was dominant post All star(9 games) and that's not enough sample size.

Bam is a borderline top 15 player, not just good

[eminence]

In the wake of Nash with everyone realizing the power of Nash, we still haven't had another Nash.

Replying to a post in the Top 100 project, how do you feel about Trae Young as a very young guy developing in that mold? Or any other young guys you see Nash in.

Otherwise I'd say Rubio as the closest as a Nash that never learned to shoot, showing how multiplicative Nashs talents were.

[Doctor MJ]

In the wake of Nash with everyone realizing the power of Nash, we still haven't had another Nash.

Replying to a post in the Top 100 project, how do you feel about Trae Young as a very young guy developing in that mold? Or any other young guys you see Nash in.

Otherwise I'd say Rubio as the closest as a Nash that never learned to shoot, showing how multiplicative Nashs talents were.

I'll certainly be watching Trae as the years go on. His gave is heavily influenced by Nash but with a scoring focus - which granted, Nash might have had in today's game. The question though for me isn't whether Trae can be better than Nash, because I rate Steph ahead of Nash overall so we have had small guards that rank up there with Nash certainly. The question is about whether anyone can match Nash's aggressive decision making ability, and I'm going to hold off for a while on that with Trae at least until I see him actually make other players clearly better.

Re: Rubio, shoot. Yeah, there's no doubt that you can't be Nash without confident shooting. If you're hesitant, you're not going to make the plays he makes. Rubio was in his head about shooting, which frankly makes a lot of sense for smart players.

I'll also give a shout out to Luka whose size makes LeBron more the comparison but Luka has a prodigy thing going for him that goes beyond LeBron.

[Goudelock]

Bill Simmons' "Book of Basketball" podcasts are great when Bill Simmons isn't talking and he's allowing J.A Adande or whoever to talk about great players. His intro into the Chris Paul podcast is pretty bad in particular, and he just glosses over the fact that Isiah Thomas didn't get far into the playoffs until the Pistons created the GOAT defense and he wasn't asked to do quite as much on offense.

Also, nobody considers KAT or Trae Young superstars lol

[Dr Positivity]

I want the craziness of Curry/Harden combo, but I think the Warriors not being able to offer the full Billy King (due to protections on Memphis pick) in addition to Wiseman might cost them.

[eminence]

Lol Harden.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Lol Harden.

Never forget the reddit post showing harden stats with and without strip clubs

[RCM88x]

Although I don't agree with his methods, I can see why Harden is upset with the situation. Basically his team gets a new owner, in the middle of his prime, and prioritizes saving $$ over winning. Unfortunate situation for sure and I have non-issue to with him wanting off of the Titanic that is the Houston Rockets. He could go about it better though.

[Clyde Frazier]

Although I don't agree with his methods, I can see why Harden is upset with the situation. Basically his team gets a new owner, in the middle of his prime, and prioritizes saving $$ over winning. Unfortunate situation for sure and I have non-issue to with him wanting off of the Titanic that is the Houston Rockets. He could go about it better though.

Still think he's acting pretty unprofessionally, especially since his not showing up coincides with multiple trips to strip clubs/clubs, which are inexplicably open? So while I don't support ownership, I feel like he's betraying his coach/teammates who are basically being caught in the middle as innocent bystanders. If he's gone the rockets should hold out for the best package they can. And no I don't think that makes them look bad.

[MO12msu]

Nah Harden is getting no excuses from me. Dude has basically been babied by the organization his whole time there. He asked for Dwight to be traded, he asked for CP3, then asked for him to be traded for his buddy. When Westbrook asked for the trade it was clear that Harden was the guy who couldn’t take any accountability or being called out for doing wrong. And yet the Rockets have always backed him.

It’s one thing to be a star player and ask for a trade and sit out some games with “injuries” until you’re moved. It’s another to be blatantly out partying on social media during mandatory training camp and media time in the middle of a pandemic. The Rockets have catered to him and he’s been a jerk about it to another level than I can really think of recently.

[RCM88x]

Ehh, at the end of the day this is the NBA. Loyalty doesn't exist, I'm not gonna hate on a guy for "betraying" he teammates when it's clear the organization doesn't care about the product on the court. His commitment is to the Houston Rockets, and no one else, that is who is contract is owner by.

[Peregrine01]

Seeing the repeated flameouts of superstars with their past teammates and organizations and all the bad break-ups in recent years makes me appreciate guys like Steve Nash and Steph Curry all the more. You don’t hear anyone say anything but glowing things about them as teammates or professionals. This is no small thing.

[Dr Positivity]

Because this is the Lebron era it led to a lot of players copying him. It's like MJ inspiring shotjackers.

[MyUniBroDavis]

My mans woke up and chose violence

[MyUniBroDavis]

Out of

Durant
Harden
Giannis
Lebron
Curry
Davis
Kawhi

The "superstar" 7

5/7 when skadoosh to their old tram and giannis looks like he wants to to

Only curry is loyal

[Jordan Syndrome]

Because this is the Lebron era it led to a lot of players copying him. It's like MJ inspiring shotjackers.

Except LeBron always left teams when he was not contractually obligated. What players are doing now is nothing like what LeBron did.

Players now are doing what Kyrie Irving did in off-season following 2017 where he threatened to "sit out most of the season for knee surgery".

[RCM88x]

I blame the supermax. It completely prohibits teams to actually build contenders. Something that's hard enough to do already with max contract players.

[Peregrine01]

Kyrie deciding not to speak to the media in favor of cryptic Instagram posts and already stirring up a media frenzy of distraction? I fear for Nash’s future as a head coach...

[Clyde Frazier]

I'm surprised Kyrie only got fined $25k.