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Post#544 » by Kampuchea » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:22 am

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Kampuchea wrote:And now Jones is injured? Only a week, we can win without him this week anyway


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Post#545 » by blueNorange » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:31 am

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I'm not even sure who it is, what show?

well that's his netflix show astronomy club, an all poc sketch show.

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Post#546 » by ADeP7 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:35 am

What a freakin win
No matter how this season turns out. Judge is looking like a great pick and clearly has these guys busting there a*s and not quitting.
Things are looking up for this team
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Post#547 » by Strick » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:55 am

Absolutely unbelievable win to beat Seattle with COLT MCCOY at QB. Judge is a really really good coach. They need to extend Patrick Graham immediately. Dude is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. OL is dramatically improved and the running game has been very fun to watch. The defense is playing at a ridiculously high level with some glaring holes on it.

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Post#550 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:32 am

Strick wrote:Absolutely unbelievable win to beat Seattle with COLT MCCOY at QB. Judge is a really really good coach. They need to extend Patrick Graham immediately. Dude is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. OL is dramatically improved and the running game has been very fun to watch. The defense is playing at a ridiculously high level with some glaring holes on it.

Hopefully Martinez isn’t out too long. It would be great if it was a minor injury and misses no time


Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.
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Post#551 » by GONYK » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:51 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Strick wrote:Absolutely unbelievable win to beat Seattle with COLT MCCOY at QB. Judge is a really really good coach. They need to extend Patrick Graham immediately. Dude is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. OL is dramatically improved and the running game has been very fun to watch. The defense is playing at a ridiculously high level with some glaring holes on it.

Hopefully Martinez isn’t out too long. It would be great if it was a minor injury and misses no time


Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.


If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.
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Re: Official Giants Thread 

Post#552 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:00 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
Strick wrote:Absolutely unbelievable win to beat Seattle with COLT MCCOY at QB. Judge is a really really good coach. They need to extend Patrick Graham immediately. Dude is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. OL is dramatically improved and the running game has been very fun to watch. The defense is playing at a ridiculously high level with some glaring holes on it.

Hopefully Martinez isn’t out too long. It would be great if it was a minor injury and misses no time


Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.


If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.


Yeah I will give Andrew Thomas some love. Played every snap last game was stout in run and gave up ZERO pressures per PFF.

The offensive line looks like a cohesive unit that is relatively young. And Peart and lemieux look like long term pieces now. If Barkley comes back healthy running behind that O-line we will be dangerous.

When you have the coaching staff in place it makes everyone look competitive. Even I'm off the fire Dave Gettleman train now thanks to Judge :lol:
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Post#553 » by Strick » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:01 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
Strick wrote:Absolutely unbelievable win to beat Seattle with COLT MCCOY at QB. Judge is a really really good coach. They need to extend Patrick Graham immediately. Dude is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. OL is dramatically improved and the running game has been very fun to watch. The defense is playing at a ridiculously high level with some glaring holes on it.

Hopefully Martinez isn’t out too long. It would be great if it was a minor injury and misses no time


Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.


If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.

Yeah, imagining what Graham could do with an elite edge talent like Young would be crazy. It is incredible what he has been able to do with really solid guys and a lot of average/depth guys... or at least very young guys. The craziest stat I have seen about the defense is that they have had 2+ sacks in every game this season. I swear we couldn't have had more than 3 games last year where we had 2+ sacks. And most of these sacks are coming from the interior or caused by push up the middle.

I love the coaching staff they have put together (although Garrett annoys me at times if I am going to be honest, but he has improved since early in the season :lol: )
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Re: Official Giants Thread 

Post#554 » by GONYK » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:04 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.


If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.


Yeah I will give Andrew Thomas some love. Played every snap last game was stout in run and gave up ZERO pressures per PFF.

The offensive line looks like a cohesive unit that is relatively young. And Peart and lemieux look like long term pieces now. If Barkley comes back healthy running behind that O-line we will be dangerous.

When you have the coaching staff in place it makes everyone look competitive. Even I'm off the fire Dave Gettleman train now thanks to Judge :lol:


I have no beef with Thomas. Once Colombo got tossed out the club, AT has been what we expected when we drafted him.

I just want to get Graham a legit EDGE and really tear the league up.
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Post#555 » by GONYK » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:10 pm

Strick wrote:
GONYK wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Graham is legit and he's doing it with no premium edge rushers which is crazy.

If he finishes this year strong and he has another really good year next year he will be a HC soon.


If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.

Yeah, imagining what Graham could do with an elite edge talent like Young would be crazy. It is incredible what he has been able to do with really solid guys and a lot of average/depth guys... or at least very young guys. The craziest stat I have seen about the defense is that they have had 2+ sacks in every game this season. I swear we couldn't have had more than 3 games last year where we had 2+ sacks. And most of these sacks are coming from the interior or caused by push up the middle.

I love the coaching staff they have put together (although Garrett annoys me at times if I am going to be honest, but he has improved since early in the season :lol: )


Garrett hasn't been perfect, but I'll give him credit for 2 things.

1. He has been more creative at times than I expected coming from Dallas. He hasn't gotten to do his Air Coryell stuff, but he's adjusted to the personnel.

2. He doesn't just throw the run game in the trash after 3 rushes like Shurmur and Co. used to.

I really am just in full bloom love over Judge and the staff he's assembled. They actually make adjustments from half to half and game to game and have shown true creativity and ability to develop.

Judge is only 38. I feel like we finally have our leader and he could be our guy for 20 years.
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Post#556 » by Strick » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:11 pm

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If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.


Yeah I will give Andrew Thomas some love. Played every snap last game was stout in run and gave up ZERO pressures per PFF.

The offensive line looks like a cohesive unit that is relatively young. And Peart and lemieux look like long term pieces now. If Barkley comes back healthy running behind that O-line we will be dangerous.

When you have the coaching staff in place it makes everyone look competitive. Even I'm off the fire Dave Gettleman train now thanks to Judge :lol:


I have no beef with Thomas. Once Colombo got tossed out the club, AT has been what we expected when we drafted him.

I just want to get Graham a legit EDGE and really tear the league up.

Crazy to think what this defense could be with a legit edge talent and a solid CB2. Yiadom has actually been respectable the last couple weeks at CB2 after I was extremely critical of him but I am far from sold :lol:

I am also eager to see what they do when they can get Xavier McKinney some legit burn too. I love how the current rookies have produced in Holmes, Cam Brown, Tae Crowder, Carter Coughlin, Niko Lalos (complete mystery to me and then randomly starts balling out :rofl: ).
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Post#557 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:20 pm

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If we had Chase Young under Graham, we would be a top 5 defense.

Yesterday was such a statement, and it really shows that Judge and Co. are legit.


Yeah I will give Andrew Thomas some love. Played every snap last game was stout in run and gave up ZERO pressures per PFF.

The offensive line looks like a cohesive unit that is relatively young. And Peart and lemieux look like long term pieces now. If Barkley comes back healthy running behind that O-line we will be dangerous.

When you have the coaching staff in place it makes everyone look competitive. Even I'm off the fire Dave Gettleman train now thanks to Judge :lol:


I have no beef with Thomas. Once Colombo got tossed out the club, AT has been what we expected when we drafted him.

I just want to get Graham a legit EDGE and really tear the league up.


Yeah I think they will address that in the draft...get a fast edge rusher. An Osi type is what this team needs and might have top 5 defensive potential (they are doing this with interior pressure and scheme).

They even have Lorenzo Carter and Fackrell there two starting edge guys out...they are working with Jabaal Sheard of the scrap heap and then two late picks in Cam Brown and Carter Coughlin so kudos to Graham scheming this defense which is really devoid of talent in that area.

Once they get Mckinney up and running and can replace that bum Jordan Love too they will get even better (can't believe he almost cost them the game dropping that easy pick to seal it).

More so then any other sport coaching matters so much more in football...this is a below average talent team and we are getting the most out of this unit and basically saving Gettleman job in the process. I will give DG credit with the drafted OL (THomas, Peart, and lemieux all look like they can be part of the future on the OL which is huge). Gates also looks like a the future center of this team...need to lock him up as well.

Engram still concerns me because I don't trust him...he always makes a huge mistake or two every game even though he makes some plays where your like a TE shouldn't be making that catch...but in the playoff I wouldn't trust him to make the right plays. But this year unlike other years we have a foundation set. We dominate the line of scrimmage on both ends...and that makes up for our lack of skill position depth.

Also Bradberry was a phenomenal pickup for DG as well....Martinez as well has stabilized things and we got lucky Logan Ryan went unsigned because he has been the backend leader this team has been missing for years.
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Post#558 » by Strick » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:27 pm

We need to grab a dynamic WR. Slayton is really solid and Shepard is a reliable #3 WR. Being able to get another WR at Slayton’s level or better would be massive.

I’d also love to get a dynamic return specialist. Peppers has the ability to make plays as a punt returner but getting a dynamic returner would allow him to not need to be thrown back there. I swear we have had like one return get beyond the 25 yard line on kick off returns. Hell, most of the kicks we take out are lucky to get back to the 20 :lol:
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Post#559 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:31 pm

Strick wrote:We need to grab a dynamic WR. Slayton is really solid and Shepard is a reliable #3 WR. Being able to get another WR at Slayton’s level or better would be massive.

I’d also love to get a dynamic return specialist. Peppers has the ability to make plays as a punt returner but getting a dynamic returner would allow him to not need to be thrown back there. I swear we have had like one return get beyond the 25 yard line on kick off returns. Hell, most of the kicks we take out are lucky to get back to the 20 :lol:


yeah my guess would be you go edge rusher with the 1st pick and WR in round 2 unless a big time WR drops which is a possibility. Obviously if the giants are in a position to draft a Ceedee Lamb who dropped type in round 1 for dallas you do it.

But edge rush and legit #1 WR would be and ideal scenario.

I would like a #2 type corner but yiadam has been solid.
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Post#560 » by Strick » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:35 pm

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Strick wrote:We need to grab a dynamic WR. Slayton is really solid and Shepard is a reliable #3 WR. Being able to get another WR at Slayton’s level or better would be massive.

I’d also love to get a dynamic return specialist. Peppers has the ability to make plays as a punt returner but getting a dynamic returner would allow him to not need to be thrown back there. I swear we have had like one return get beyond the 25 yard line on kick off returns. Hell, most of the kicks we take out are lucky to get back to the 20 :lol:


yeah my guess would be you go edge rusher with the 1st pick and WR in round 2 unless a big time WR drops which is a possibility. Obviously if the giants are in a position to draft a Ceedee Lamb who dropped type in round 1 for dallas you do it.

But edge rush and legit #1 WR would be and ideal scenario.

I would like a #2 type corner but yiadam has been solid.

Devonta Smith from Alabama would be amazing. We will probably be out of the Jamar Chase sweepstakes. I like a lot of WRs in this draft. It would be great if we could get an edge and WR in round 2.

My ideal situation would be edge/WR in round one and two regardless of which comes first and grab a solid CB2 in Free Agency. I think we should have a ton of money to play around with this year actually.

It would be massive to have QB, RB, top 2 WRs, both LT and RT, possibly both guard positions (if Hernandez and Lemieux can play LG and RG), and several contributors on defense all on rookie contracts. That would allow a lot of money to be pumped into impact positions.
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